Memes aside, are there actual leftists on Sup Forums?

Memes aside, are there actual leftists on Sup Forums?

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Sup Forums is satire. We're all leftists

I'm left-handed.
Does that count?

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Yeah, I voted for Sanders in the PA Primary. Was my first vote too. I'd say I'm more "left-leaning" than a full-blown liberal though.

>Anti-SJW and feminism
>Pro-gun rights
>Pro private property rights and business discrimination
>Believe in a social safety net.
>Believe in individual liberty and tolerance for gays/LGBT.

From time to time a leftist women will try and sell her underwear on here.

SHART

>pro private property

Voted for Sanders

No and I truly believe liberals don't question the government and are going to aid in destroying the west and inviting hoards of blood thirsty Arabs. Why would you intentionally destroy the country you grew up in your traitorous faggots. The Jews have hijacked the system!

Alt-left, sure.

We are here in large numbers.

It's like the alt-right, but we hate Israel, don't like BLM, hate political correctness, hate SJW's, hate new age feminism(the message got bastardized over the years).

It's like what
said.

We're two sides of the same coin, and I'm sure we could agree on more issues then what we disagree on.

Independent, voted for Sanders

LEAF

The furthest left I can agree with is National Socialism.

I didn't have the luxury of being a full idelogue this election.

Fuck ya bruh I fucks with leftists hardcore

Sup Forums is pretty much all leftists.

Speaking of SHART LEAVES...

What did they mean by this?

>alt-left

first time i've ever heard of this. Lefties usually seem pretty extreme

When you say leftist, do you mean SJW?

Or do you mean not right wing?

Cuz there are shitloads of us who aren't right wing, we just don't believe in censorship through shaming people because you don't like what they're saying.

>are there actual leftists on Sup Forums?
does a fat baby fart?

>are there actual leftists on Sup Forums?

pretty sure /fa/ is full of leftists m8, they should be gassed.

You're a Liberaltarian, congrats.

The threat to the west at the moment isn't a left or right issue, its an issue of existence. our society and culture are being flushed down the toilet in the name of white guilt.

4chinz was left dominated up until 08, 07 was the eternal september anyways.

I would say besides few boards, this place, /k/ etc it is still leftist. But the trend is going on the opposite way, as privacy is on the decline and right cant say the stuff they want.

you need to be anonymous to shout fuck niggers

Sup Forums is a leftist website
being alt-right edgelords is just a meme to find out who are true liberals and who are marxist kikes deserving of the gas chamber

I'm actually non-political, I just hate degenerates

When I say leftist I mean leftist-identified people.

That we have to many immigrants that have a poor sense of humor.

paid hillbots don't count

I wish I was conservative, I mean I truly align and agree with nearly all traditional conservative values, both social and economic, but irl I'm still a degenerate liberal.

one day I will have the wealth and influence to create conservatives under my wing though, one day.

I'm kind of centralist. Does that count?

Kek smiles upon truth. Degenerates like you belong on a cross.

As an American who is questioning the political status quo, I would like to see the rise of an alt-left even as someone who leans to the right these years. It would be good to get another anti SJW movement going to redpill normies.

>Voted for Sanders.
>Trump was my second favorite.
>Went full red-pill after that cuck refused to call out Clinton on Voter fraud which screwed my wife and friends out of their votes.
In the end, I agree with liberals on more issues, but I agree with Conservatives on the issues that actually fucking matter.

I'm extremely left. Not nigger loving gay enabler left. I'm voting Trump.

Left leaner here, although it isn't as simple as right & left as it depends on the issue. I'm not someone who believes any form of government works flawlessly, but they all have their merits. Communism has good and bad parts just like capitalism.

I lean left because I believe the best solutions are derived from working together, pooling knowledge, finding principled solutions, and coming to a collective agreement that the selected choice of action provides the greatest social utility without creating to large of a negative impact.

Government should always be questioned, checked, reviewed, audited. Most importantly they should be held accountable for their actions - this includes police. I think you might find a lot of left leaning people question the government more than you give them credit for, they just might not question it in the same way you do.

>ywn sexually traumatize a loli aged clinton while singing the national anthem and wearing a bill clinton mask
why even live desu senpai

I'm a National Socialist. I fucking hate the Left, but I hate Jews even more.

Nice trips satan

Depends. If I simultaneously want European style social democracy, neoliberal trade policy and refuse to let America be isolationist, is that leftist? Or is the social democracy thing only considered sufficiently left wing to outweight the other 2 in America?

>lolbertarian
>believing in social safety net
Just open my boarders senpai

I sympathize with Unions that aren't complete cucks.

Not for very long.

The libertarian joke goes like this:

What's the difference between a minarchist and an anarcho-capitalist?

About 3 months.

Do libertarians believe in a social safety net?

I'd argue they would if a private company provided it as insurance that you either pre-paid for or took out debt to repay.

I voted for the Green Party, honestly, because I'm not a dipshit who thinks "wasting a vote" is a thing. Just vote for who you fucking like the most, it's not hard.

NDP was a trainload of shitheads ever since Jack died, and probably before but whatevs, so I couldn't vote for them again, also, I got accosted by the police at their rally, which wasn't really their fault, but whatever they had a shitty plaform anyway.

Trudeau is a silver spoon prick, and Harper was a crook.

>alt left
You are cancer. Leave and go fuck yourself already. You are just a cynical faggot who likes to look at things and bitch about them rather than taking a firm stance on anything.
>we are here in large numbers
No you aren't. You never have been and never will be. Stop trying /leftypol/

>anti sjw
>red pilled
I don't think you understand what red pilled means.

I appreciate government in infrastructure, law enforcement, and the basics, but that's about it.

It should really be up to the people to do what they want, assuming it doesn't limit the freedoms of another.

Gov aid is okay, but should definitely be allocated to more productive areas.

A libertarian working within the parameters of the American constituition could support welfare at the state level.

>government money grows on trees

i'm a nationalist socialist. left wing economically, right wing on social/cultural issues.

That isn't left you flaming tard that's basic libertarianism

This more or less. Especially after all those right winger gamer gaters we all know who reside here. I have no doubt that Sup Forums in the recent months attracted actual neo nazis and hardcore right wingers thinking Sup Forums is gospel.

By the very definition of libertarian, no you can not.

>pro private property
>Bernie sanders

We've been extremely right wing forever.

Are you a shill or does your dick move every time you pretend you are an oldfag?

No. Leftists only thrive on websites with a hive mind attitude "Obama is the greatest person that ever lived!!" "upvoted!!" Here if they say that we call them fucking retarded then they cry and leave.

By the very definition of US president you have checks and balances and a Congress and an oath. If a libertarian ran for presidential office his only real chance at eliminating welfare would be to keep it at the state level. You're talking theory I'm talking American politics in practice.

National Socialist here.

I'm sure if I gave you some more of my ideological views, you'd agree with my labeling.

For example, I believe in universal healthcare.

90% of trumpfags are newfags who don't get we are all here just to have fun and take the piss. That's why they are so easily upset/triggered.

My wife's son is a Bernie voter

New age liberalism isn't actual liberalism. Somewhere in the early 2000s it got bastardized by some retards and flaming faggots.

I actually respect what others say politically, whether it's retarded or not. That's what being a liberal means. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, whether or not you agree with them or not is meaningless.

Then you can decide to agree or disagree, which is fine. It's more about trying to bring people together then tearing them apart.

I vehemently disagree with SJWism and new age feminism, along with theocracy. It's a funny thing to say, but liberals are generally bigoted towards conservatives.

>National Socialist
>Socialist
>I fucking hate the Left

I think conservatively on economic issues but center left on social issues. Problem is nowadays, the same left that used to be highly suspicious of government now wants to use it to force political correctness and acceptance. A lot of us don't have a home in that party any more, because any dissent makes you a racist, a bigot, and you get unpersoned.

Nobody liked it when the Neocons tried to use government to police abortion either. It's blatant hypocrisy, and despite being a right winger now, I'll never concede that particular belief. Just let people be, don't try and dictate your own moral creed as an edict.

I think most of us here are just tired of fighting the culture wars, of two parties entrenching themselves too deeply because they've made out the other side to be super Saiyan double Hitler.

The real enemy are the globalists, and the battle lines are being drawn. I support Trump for being brave enough to fight them - It's time for us to take America back.

If we are looking at it objectively of rather have universal healthcare than he clusterfuck of regulation and insurance and welfare we have now

Ideally a freer health market would result in cheaper healthcare for all but good luck with convincing anyone of that or dealing with special interests

While universal healthcare is more cost effective it stifles innovation despite being inequitable and expensive the is still has the best healthcare (provided you can afford it).

Socialized systems stifle that progress

Same with basic income, if we could drop all social programs and just do basic income, is support it

But that'll never happen

>We've been extremely right wing forever

Lurk more.

If mainstream society was conservative /pol would be leftist.

National Socialists aren't Socialists retard

I didn't say anything about taxes, did I?

We definitely need tax reform though. A linear tax that increases with income is fine as long as it keeps business here.

And by Gov aid I'm talking about disaster relief. Not fucking food stamps. Just cut that shit.

whether or not national socialism is leftist or not is debatable.
But the "socialist" part comes from the merging of the two parties, hitler essentially took over the socialist party, does not at all make him, or his ideology socialist, it is more in line with Italian fascism.
Like wise the Merger of the orignal canadian conservative party and the progressive party made the "progressive conservative party" but they weren't progressives.

>leaf

Seriously fucking die leaf

Good post.

Agree with a lot of what you said. I'm more than less against Obamacare for some of those reasons.

the alt right is the nu left

I am an authoritarian socialist
If you mean a neo liberal, I hope no, I hate them

>National Socialists aren't Socialists

No he took over the "German Workers Party" the National Socialist so I don't think he ever merged any parties.

Look at the youtube thumbnail for this video stefan just uploaded 5 hours ago it has a Trump kek

youtube.com/watch?v=TQtCiW5hTes

Bullshit, the only diference between stalinism and natsoc is that natsoc is a little bit more nationalist

I'm definitely not rightwing. But the radical left/SJWs/feminists have earned my hatred over time.

...but his socialist policies made him socialist.

>>Pro-private property

>>Socialism

You are a fucking idiot.

The National Socialist part was just a name he came up with for his ideology*

nah, you aren't forced to participate if it only exists on a per state basis which makes it no different than a very comprehensive private sector insurance plan QED

>on Sup Forums?
lol wut?

Sup Forums is 90% leftist faggots

>Believe in equality of opportunity
>Completely depises the new wave of feminism and SJW
>Gay and believes in LGBT rights, however thinks that the other pronouns/gender/special snowflake identites are completely and utterly bullshit.
>Strong believer of free speech, no matter how hateful it is.
>Condemn groups that fight discrimination with more discrimination and destruction. (E.g BLM)
>Hates radical Islam but still respects the people whom practice it peacefully in our society.
>Believes that only refugee women and children should be accepted from war-torn countries.
>Pro-gun, but more strictly regulated
>Wants Trump to be President

Where do I align Sup Forums?

eh, i've been called "leftist" for some of my opinions which shouldn't make me a leftist at all. i support gay rights, i'm an atheist, i don't give a fuck about trannies. as far as everything else is concerned i'm far right

...

National socialism was literately communism mixed with nationalism. Hence, Russia alliance at the beginning of the war.

He didn't have any economic beliefs, he though Economics was a secondary issue.

>Gay and believe in LGBT rights
>Where do I align?
In an oven maybe

Well Correct the Record is probably around, but I don't know if they count as real leftists since they support Shillary. Here I'll summon them so you can ask.

Gentlemen, I think that Hillary has a poor foreign policy

I still like Bernie Sanders

Perhaps we should vote for Jill Stein

There, they should be along in a little bit.

I'm gonna make my movement be called socialist and promote and practice socialist policies not because I'm anot actual socialist but just to confIselin people for nearly a century later.

Yeah seems legit.

Do you agree with your candidate on every single thing? Like I already told someone else, we don't have the luxury to be picky this election.

see
>whether or not national socialism is leftist or not is debatable.
I'm merely explaining the name.

it was already titled "National Socialist German Workers' Party" when he took it over.

I think Sup Forums is a lot more liberal than it likes to think.

In fact I'd say Sup Forums is a lot more closely related to the classical liberal than it is the classical or current conservative.

The "alt-right" is just real liberals being pushed out of their category into a new one so they can be branded as evil freedom hating racist right-wing peons.

I believe that so long as your freedom does not curtail the freedom of another it should be protected, even if only to a small degree. I believe every court should be equal and all criminals should be judged and sentenced fairly regardless of position, race, religion, ect.

I believe that everyone should have a right to basic education, and that if our tax dollars were to go to only three things it should be military, education, and infrastructure.

I'm anti-war, I believe we should focus on protecting our country and only attacking another in preemptive self-defense or retaliation. Diplomacy should always be our first option, but our country's sovereignty and well being should always be the highest priority.

I also believe the constitution should be the highest law of the land above all else and should be enforced not only by our police but by the military and every branch of government capable.

I believe everyone should receive equal pay for their labor.

I believe religion should be fully seperate from the government and everyone should be free to form their own religious beliefs so long as those beliefs do not interfere with the freedom of others or the law of the land.

These thoughts, in the 60s, would have made me be considered a long-haired pot smoking nigger-loving pinko hippie god hater.

Now I'm considered a racially discriminatory bigot, a sexist, a hate-filled, bible-thumping, "alt-right" nazi.

I think if there ever is a civil war, the reporters and savages who helped push this propaganda should be killed first; they're the front line troops for our enemy and they'll die like soldiers too.

‘It is a historic tune,’ the Mexican said. ‘It is the tune of the real revolution.’
‘Listen,’ said Mr. Frazer. ‘Why should the people be operated on without an anaesthetic?’
‘I do not understand.’
‘Why are not all the opiums of the people good? What do you want to do with the people?’
‘They should be rescued from ignorance.’
‘Don’t talk nonsense. Education is an opium of the people. You ought to know now that you’ve had a little.’
‘You do not believe in education?’
‘No,’ said Mr. Frazer. ‘In knowledge, yes.’
‘I do not follow you.’
‘Many times I do not follow myself with pleasure.’
‘You want to hear the “Cucaracha” another time?’ asked the Mexican worriedly.
‘Yes,’ said Mr. Frazer. ‘Play the “Cucaracha” another time. It’s better than the radio.’

Revolution, Mr. Frazer thought, is no opium. Revolution is a catharsis; an ecstasy which can only be prolonged by tyranny. The opiums are for before and for after.

Lol faggot, actually read the full quote. He explained what his idea of "Socialism" is. He later said that he no Economic policies, and that he believed in Individiualism