Leftypol here

Leftypol here

I know we don't always agree, BUT can we agree that the US should be arming the Kurds and fuck Erdogan.

Kurdistan is secular

Kurdistan is democratic

Kurdistan have been removing ISIS, the worst of kebab, for a long time now.

Kurdistan are heroes. In what is considered one the greatest military feats in recent history, PKK/YPG troups broke break deep into ISIS lines in order to save 50,000 Yazidis (christians) who had become surrounded. The PKK/YPG managed to hold the line long enough to evacuate this group over hundreds of kilometres, keeping them fed, watered and sheltered the whole time, all the while removing Kebab. There was no strategic advantage to this, it was an act of heroism against the innocent victims of ISIS.

Turkey have been selling oil to ISIS.

Turkey have not actively fought ISIS.

Turkey are now strengthening ISIS position by attacking the Kurds under the pretence that they are attacking ISIS.

Erdogan is a fucking liar.

This is socialism. Libertarian socialism. The kind George Orwell supported.

Solidarity for Rojava.

What say you?

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stopfgmkurdistan.org/
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>leftypol
Fuck off

I don't support Kurdistan, but I hate turkey more.

I wanna see Turkey get crushed.

>secular
>democratic
>Yazidis (Christians)

this is the most retarded post I've seen in months

No we SHOULD NOT be arming kurdistan

We should defeat ISIS. Because they are murdering Westerners.

After that, Syria and Iraq are none of our business and we should take no part in their internal strife. It only invites more hatred of the West by Muslims. And they are not OUR WARS - our troops don't deserve to die for shitty 3rd world countries.

GO FUCK YOURSELF

Didnt read after /leftypol/.

>Libertarian socialism

Gross. I prefer liberalism.

Honestly we should just let Israel take control of Syria, the juden are good at cucking arabs.

Based leftypol. If the left was like you I wouldnt feel like the world is going to be an Islamic theocracy in the next hundred years.

>leftypol

fuck is there even text after this

Kurdistan are part of the process of defeating ISIS, they are allies, Turkey are not.

What about this isn't secular? Mostly Muslims or political non religious Kurds saving Christians from a common enemy?

Narrow minded.

Why on earth

JIDF confirmed

Thanks bruh, the common ground is the firmest

Why not arm indigenous Assyrians instead? They're Christian, willing to fight ISIS to protect their homeland, been persecuted and genocided by Arabs and other muslims for a long time.

Quick reminder that Kurds HATE shart in marts.

Absolutely based.

I literally cringed

Who do you think set up the coup attempt? Obviously it was a false flag coup to break up any resistance, but the coup would have been real with more time

Stay a while friend, and once you have seen the truths pol teaches, we'll help you shed the leftist view

>giving weapons to anybody in the middle east
this is why leftypol are fucking retards

Go be a faggot somewhere else, you stupid commie.

Erdogan has been false couping and bombing himself for years and thinks nobody knows. Trust me I know.

actually the US has been tentatively offering air support but is now dropping it because of Turkeys antics.

We must support Kurdistan instead of Turkey. Turkey are part of the problem and have been for a long time.

exactly what was done by the usa to afghanistan in the 90s. I think it will just create more conflict in the area.

Well I hate isis.
And secular government is not the worst.
Bumping for kebab removal
Kurds are ok

Lefty friend remember to post beautiful kurd women.
It's a cheap trick but keeps the tread bumping

It is literally the most westernised place in the whole of the middle east.

What they believe is 'democratic confederalism' which is actually extremely similar to what the founding fathers of America imagined for the world.

There is no state in Kurdistan, it is a confederate of cantons whose military and police answer to its people, not the legislature. Its essentially a further separation of powers.

It has been EXTREMELY effective and repelling ISIS and rebuilding Kurdistan.

contribute something.

except the Mujahadeen were radical Islamists, not secular democrats

Nice try cucks
Kurds are literally worse than Turks
I am ashamed that these cucks live in my country

This

>It is literally the most westernised place
>Kurdistan
>most westernized place in Middle East
you don't want me to contribute kid, if i did you'd be supporting a kurdish genocide

Hatter's help by bumping!

>Secular democracy or autocratic Islamist

he chooses Islamic dictator

Nah m8 you are the cuck

Where have you got in mind that is better?

>neo-/leftypol/ sucking up to to Sup Forumsyps
the true meaning of their anti-idpol vulgar materialism

I've decided to contribute by request of our cucked friend
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing#Turkey
>The mass migration during the past decades of rural population from Southeastern Turkey to big cities in Western Turkey has resulted in "modern" cities such as Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, and Bursa having the highest numbers of reported honor killings.
>Forced suicides – where the victim who is deemed to have 'dishonored' the family is ordered to commit suicide in an attempt by the perpetrator to avoid legal consequences – also take place in Turkey, especially in Batman in southeastern Turkey, which has been nicknamed "Suicide City".
>A small survey in Diyarbakir in southeastern Turkey found that, when asked the appropriate punishment for a woman who has committed adultery, 37% of respondents said she should be killed, while 21% said her nose or ears should be cut off.
>A July 2008 Turkish study by a team from Dicle University on honor killings in the Southeastern Anatolia Region, the predominantly Kurdish area of Turkey, has so far shown that little if any social stigma is attached to honor killing
>The most recent was on 13 January 2009, where a Turkish Court sentenced five members of the same Kurdish family to life imprisonment for the honor killing of Naile Erdas, a 16-year-old girl who got pregnant as a result of rape.
Do you want me to continue to talk about "secular" (((Kurds)))? I really don't want to ruin your image of these subhumans but I feel like my country is being ruined by cucks like you.

You will get Kurdistan under Barzani. Fuck off to there commie

Its a simple case of being pro or anti ISIS friend which side you take

All kebab needs to be removed, now back to brebbit

fuck commies

>Its a simple case of being pro or anti Trump friend which side you take
communists for Hillary 2016!

Erdogan's anti Kurd Government arrests a bunch of Kurd's

Well I never,

You realize it is actually illegal to talk about Kurdish nationalism in Turkey and promote it.

The entire Turkish system is geared against them.

Keep drinking the kool-aid

Know what else you get arrested for in Turkey?

Making documentaries.

>voting when you live in America

Hillary is a piece of shit we all know that

So it Trump

>k*rds
>s*cular

kekest kek

so I can be against both Sup Forums and ISIS

I'd be willing to support the peshmerga, but not PKK.

Their government is based on secular democracy.

This coming from a Turk. You literaly live in an Islamist state. My god you people

Fuck them both

Give us all that

1. they don't save christians, in the past they've secured some assyrian villages but evicted all the assyrian residents in the process
2. yazidis aren't christians
3. the democratic and secular memes are myths or remnants of german leftists' infatuation with öcalan. like virtually all third world national liberation movements, they dropped their progressive rhetoric once they were no longer able to pepper their doctrines with "marxism-leninism" and get a free ride of weapons and advisors from the USSR, now they don't even pretend to be anything beyond the tribalist thugs that they actually are.

additionally native kurdish areas are some of the most barbaric muslim shitholes on earth where honor killings / rapings and clit choppings are rampant stopfgmkurdistan.org/
4. i know you guys really love seeing petite 20 year old girls running around with rifles and that, but it's really not the mark of a stable or intelligent society to allow the source of their next generation to be marched into the line of fire to their deaths

sure i guess they're quasi-useful in the fight against ISIS but they can't be relied upon as an ally. i do realize i sound exactly like a t*rkshit right now and in general i probably like kurds more than turks but the fact of the matter is kurds are really not as cool or pro-western as they're made out to be... if they were capable of securing their independence on their own maybe i'd respect them a bit more but even then, fuck arming them

Post kurd girls user
This faggots are quick to forget and distance from the discussion if doesn't have a human face .

Remove kebab!

fuck you, we hilldogs now.

This is clearly bait, I'm not going to post anymore.

A very common position, this is the common ground we need.

Just so you know, they do a lot of work together, the Peshmerga and the PKK, the PKK are considered terrorists back from when they were leninist commies, they did suicide bombings and such. However after their leader went to jail he started reading about libertarian socialism and renounced their former ways. They stopped bombing at this point (a long time ago now) and have embraced democratic confederalism as their new ideology.

It is this rebord ideology of the PKK that has made Kurdistan the success it is today.

>Kurdistan the success it is today.
ok wrap it up everyone we're done here

>whére iş k*rdíştán şhòw on máp xD

>additionally native kurdish areas are some of the most barbaric muslim shitholes on earth where honor killings / rapings and clit choppings are rampant

Which is a leftover from their middle eastern ideology which the new system is actively combating. These things have happened dramatically less since the new system came into place and continue to drop.

Here is spic.

>successfully winning independence
>successfully fighting ISIS
>successfully rebuilding country along democratic lines

Success

Kurds put on higher crimerates in my city than even turks and morroccans do per capita, fuck them

>inb4 they're not the same as the middle eastern ones that stayed to fight

I don't care

you can blame Turks for actively depriving them of education

and they really aren't the same as the ones that stayed to fight, you should care

Fucking Leftists

Do you have any idea how many schools Kurds have burned in Turkey? I guess that's our problem too.

RARE

youtube.com/watch?v=R6NMwmsGxMI

lel enjoy europe

I should blame turks for actively depriving second and third generation kurds of education in a truly secular nation? Seems logical. Filtered anglo scum

Fuck you communist filth, I hope you get murdered in your sleep.

>PKK burns schools and kills teachers all the time
>Turks are depriving kurds of education goy
Literally kill yourself

There are Assyrians working with the ypg, arming the sdf would arm them both

>They stopped bombing at this point (a long time ago now)
They literally bombed yesterday. 11 dead 86 injured. Stop telling lies.

>right wing nationalists that are so hopped up on debt they'll collapse as soon as the war is over
I think I'll pass

>Want to see qt.3.14
>get instead 1000 yard look.

Why do you hate user?

I agree.

Kurds are the missing link as a stabilising, secular, democratic entity in the middle east.

And yes, their long fight for independance against established islamic states, and their protection of christian minorities, has not gone unnoticed.

>I know we don't always agree, BUT can we agree that the US should be arming the Kurds and fuck Erdogan.
I'd prefer IS or Erdogan over kurds because:
>Kurdistan is secular
>Kurdistan is democratic

>Kurdistan are heroes. In what is considered one the greatest military feats in recent history, PKK/YPG troups broke break deep into ISIS lines in order to save 50,000 Yazidis (christians) who had become surrounded. The PKK/YPG managed to hold the line long enough to evacuate this group over hundreds of kilometres, keeping them fed, watered and sheltered the whole time, all the while removing Kebab. There was no strategic advantage to this, it was an act of heroism against the innocent victims of ISIS.
I don't believe we should support people just for being good fighters

>Turkey have been selling oil to ISIS.
>Turkey have not actively fought ISIS.
>Turkey are now strengthening ISIS position by attacking the Kurds under the pretence that they are attacking ISIS.
This point depends on the premise that IS is bad

>Erdogan is a fucking liar.
as all politicians are
>This is socialism. Libertarian socialism. The kind George Orwell supported.
I'm not too in favor of libertarian socialism, if anything I'd prefer tankie socialism but would prefer a government that defends tradition to allowing them to fall to the same degeneracy trap the west has.

>Solidarity for Rojava.
>What say you?
no

literally none of those things have happened

Furthrrmore, to roaches in this thread, fuck you all.

Europe has not forgotten your past and perpetual aggression against us.

Ataturk was your savior, but you have fallen from his grace.

Its unforgivable, and unacceptable.

Good luck finding friends among the muslims, because you will find none here except to those in exile here against your own state.

What a fking waste.

>German siding with roaches
Hello Angela

Fpbp

we are arming them, but not nearly enough

they're still getting MANPADS and RPGs from the Russians though and they've been arming them since the late 70's at least

are you a paid shill? This is total bollocks, same goes for the school burning

Roaches, also dont expect any leniency from Russia.

The Russian Orthodoxy has not forgotten what you did to Byzantium, and the City of the World, nor will the Greeks.

You are islamic usurpers long past purging.

Ataturk gave you all opportunities to chose from, yet this is how you chose.

Turkey, again, the roach den. What a fking failure.

It's actually true.

Turks have enough autism that they'll do it for free

ntv.com.tr/turkiye/cizrede-polis-kontrol-noktasina-bombali-saldiri,37NAswPhYke5f_YwU9FchA

The United states should be arming every separatist group in the middle east and encouraging them to fight each other.

>This point depends on the premise that IS is bad

so.. why are they good?

School burnings
google.com.tr/search?q=pkk okul yaktı&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=3KbBV8aHGI-0UMaCm4gI

a police checkpoint... so a legitimate warzone target.

I was talking, civilian aimed suicide terror attacks, this is just war dumb turkroach

Who gives a fuck about what Europe thinks? Ataturk is still savior, im secularist but still hate commies and kurds. Also your Russia post is full of kek, Russians are always bro-tier.

I agree with almost everything you say.

But not this

>agree that the US should be arming the Kurds and fuck Erdogan.

When you're in a hole the first thing you need to do is stop digging. Arming and supporting one faction against another, destabilizing foreign governments, that's how we got here. We should stop.

Let Rojava and the Syrian government work out a deal. Let them team up to take their country back from the jihadis. Let the Russians help them.

And just withdraw from NATO. It hasn't served a useful purpose in decades. Boom, no more need to back up the mad Sultan anymore. Without US backing him he'll be a lot less likely to stir up any more trouble.

>google.com.tr/search?q=pkk okul yaktı&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=3KbBV8aHGI-0UMaCm4gI

no mention of PKK or YPG involvement besides the title, they post no evidence at all.

This is what happens when your media is censored by Erdogan

Kurd's area fucking inbred Sunnis. They blow shit up and are dogs of the us,our proxy. They can fight Isis but they will only further Balkanize the middle east and become a dog nation of the US

Fuck off kike. Greater Israel will never happen

>US should be arming the Kurds
Nope. I have experienced Kurds IRL. They are literally scum, almost as bad as somalians.

Which is why you said not take that stretch of land and they did, and now you are butthurt about it so you are supporting dumb turkroaches, which is a poor move strategically and means you are siding with Islamists

Yeh sure, just that the US needs to tell Turkey to get the fuck out or its going fuck things up further.

We are talking about a specific group of Kurds, not just Kurds in general

This guy would know conquering Kurds were the inbred nigger lapdogs of the crypto kike Atatürk, did his dirty work in Armenia

Russians hate you, and consider you roaches.

And no, you have failed the opportunity Ataturk made for you.

You have no reason to hate Kurds.
Their autonomy should have been recognized already after the fall of the Ottomans.

You dont seem to know the history of your own geograpnic region.

All of it was Byzantium, as the finest, richest empire on Earth, with acceptance of all ethnicities and religions, under the Emperor.

Turkey is an amalgation of ethnic groups.
You have forgotten your own roots.
Your ancestors where Christian.

> selling oil to ISIS
Get your facts the right way round.

>they post no evidence at all
What is your argument, where is your evidence? Did PKK ever say they didn't burn them? You are just pulling shit out of your ass.

our culture is war you faggot,whites are conquerors the only problem we have is political correctness and democratic opinions from weak people..
we could bring all these countries down and take their stuff but since the 70s we have so many pussys everywhere that we have the power and don't use it because "feels"

The Kurdish drive for independence will never end.

Its only a matter of time.
The only alternstive is further and accelersted genocide by the Turkish gov, which will simply prove them to be the roaches we all know them to be.

Turkey is a cancer. Ataturk performed excision and chemo, but you fking roaches just fell back into your old ways.

There is no saving you.

>burden of proof

its on you and not me

I suppose you think there was actually an attempted coup the other week and that wasn't just Erdogan trying to consolidate power. LOL

Also this will most definitely cause expansion of ISIS into formerly Kurdish territory. Primarily because Turks are too pussy to fight ISIS

Another bait thread.

>Russians hate you, and consider you roaches.

Invalid, reality is different than Sup Forums go out and learn.

>And no, you have failed the opportunity Ataturk made for you.

Nope, still secular country, yes conservative-muslim party on charge but everything can change same happened before as you know.

>You have no reason to hate Kurds.

I hate criminals, highest percentage is coming from kurds so i dont have respect for subhumans cant integrate.

Other things you posted is cringe-tier i dont even need to answer suomi.