Atheists are hedons

You are a hedon if you are an atheist. You have no morals, and no real reason to live.


Atheism is part of the root of degeneracy, and liberal "do what you want" rhetoric. You are progressive scum.

>if I call the meme stupid in the meme, they win

>it's another "believe in god even though i can't prove he exists PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU" argument

>no morals

The fact that you need a book with nade up outdated and arbitrary rules to hold you back from raping or murdering someone says more about you than it does us.

delet this
Nazrin deserves better

Still does not change the fact that abrahamic religions are not european and never were.

>a book
>a book
>a book

Morals aren't objective, retard. Why are atheists so immoral? Is it because they haven't read a certain >a book?

You also get morals from God, who hangs out in your heart.

>don't want to grow up retarded
>"UR JUST DOIN IT TO BE EDYG"

>OUTDATED
Cuck. You really are a progressive degenerate.

>You also get morals from God, who hangs out in your heart.
If you applied this logic to literally anything else in life, you would be thrown in a nuthouse.
Also, that made you sound like a nutjob.

Provide examples of the morals the atheists lack

What's retarded about morals, guidance, discipline, meaning of life, armour from degeneracy, mercy, and a sense of community? Atheist teenagers are fucking cancerous, weed smoking, fuckboy, and /or sluts.

This board for example. Not dissing Sup Forums or anything, but there the porn that is on here is degenerate. Atheists are usually liberals. You people also like asians. It is a sin to mix with another race.

Good job replying to literally the least important point of my post. You will feel the warmth one day if you actually bother to go to church, and listen.

>inb4 I want to find out for myself

No. This is as stupid as trying to find out if nazism is a good idea based on what elementary school taught you. It's not gonna happen. You'll always come back to:

>B-b-but my logic!

You're sinful kind is of a lost cause.

Your*

You are generalizing far too much. Not every person who doesn't believe in god is a liberal degenerate, user.

I'm an atheist and I guarantee you and I will share nearly every single moral value, obviously with the exception of a small few.

Yes, but who in your life enforces them?

Atheism is from th Jews. The Jews don't want you in the "next life." So, they've convinced you that you're smarter and more enlightened than everyone else and that there is no God so you ultimately go to hell or where ever.

The Jews win twice. They rule you here and keep you out of the next life.

You think I'm kidding.

>You have no morals
>Atheism is part of the root of degeneracy
>progressive
and you're a loser who has nothing but bullshit to post online.

I was raised Catholic but now I'm an atheist. It just doesn't seem probable for me anymore. But I still pretty much live by Christian values, because it seems common sense to me; like, not killing people is a reasonable thing to do, right? But I'm not an orthodox, so I don't consider sleeping with a girl without marriage evil (not that I'm sleepin with girls, I'm beta as fuck, but you get the idea).

Christian values are mostly good and I live by them, but I don't need a promise of heaven or a threat of hell to be a good person anymore. What am I supposed to do, pretend to believe in this extraterrestrial magic Jew guy?

I'm pretty sure I have better morals than you.

Sure, there might be some form of a god, but I'm sure as fuck it is'nt any of the ones described by the three desert death cults.

Exactly! Atheists all seem to believe everything else the jews say aswell. (i.e liberalism)

FPBP

>not an argument

Reminder that both Christians and atheists should hide and sage these threads

Morals are inherent in the intelligent or even normally emotionally functioning individuals without the need of a supposedly holy book or god.

I don't need a book to let me know that I shouldn't murder or rape. Anyone who isn't a sociopath knows this inherently... I don't want to be killed or raped and therefore understand it's bad.

I hate it when idiots act like we need some divine book and a god to let us know right from wrong...

Know what made me an atheist? It was reading and studying the Bible in its entirety. I used to be a believer... went to church several times a week... in my mind I KNEW for a FACT that it was all real and that God existed and I gave myself to him... accepted him into my heart and I was "saved". But... because I have critical thinking skills I got a bit older and read/studied the Bible AND world history... I became SHOCKED that I had believed... SHOCKED that I had been a Christian... SHOCKED that people are able to be manipulated to the extent that religion has propagated in the masses of people to the extent it has...

It's a shame really... You need to sacrifice your comfort FOR THE TRUTH and start living in reality instead of basing your life (or at least part of it) on fallacies. It is a sickening shame that you believe what you do... such a waste... such a shame.

I feel very VERY sorry for you... You are likely beyond help (as with most believers after a certain age) due to conditioning and indoctrination.

You shouldn't be so self righteous, anonymous.

The same person who enforces them for a religious person. Individuals with morals choose their own reasons for living by them. Of you think god will punish you, thats still you makong a conscience decision which determines your own actions. The only person with true power over you is yourself.

Myself. Why would i need anyone else to tell me how to live.

AMEND THIS POST AT ONCE GOYIM!!!

He's right. Most atheists have no morals. They all think pedophilia ok, they think adultry is ok, they think rampant drug use and addiction is ok.

They're also hypocrites. They scream about not having religion forced on them - which it never was to begin with - I've never seen a Christian hold a gun on an atheist and force them into church. But, they do force their disbelief on everyone else.

We should get a holiday, kind of like the movie Purge, where we can legally kill atheists. Just like 12 hours out of the year or something.

if you need to be forced to behave decently I don't need to argue with you...


not that anything in christianity or any other religion makes you an actual better, decent human being, anyhow.

Yes but what about all the other morals? Rape and murder are bad examples, because these are planted in our heads as bad wether you're a christian or not.
Nonsense. All you did was decide to mock God in his own temple while you went on a sperg attack.

>SHOCKED
All right.

>if you don't believe in being punished or rewarded based on how you did in life you have no morality
>empathy, never heard of it

All this generalizing, dude.

>I've never seen a Christian hold a gun on an atheist
so the middle ages and the Inquisition are a meme? you can't possibly be serious about this. what happened to David Hume anyway? that was even after the renaissance, for fuck's sake.

You kniw what I mean. Any girl can say that they think benis is icky, but they still ride the cock carousel if their father doesn't stop it. We are sinners. We need God to guide us, and forgive us.

if atheists were fish they would say the acquariam just randomly evolved and there was no-one who built it.

>mfw atheists will double down on this retardation when questioned about their belief

>He's right. Most atheists have no morals. They all think pedophilia ok, they think adultry is ok, they think rampant drug use and addiction is ok.

Where do you get your facts and statistics on this? Got a source that's confirmed or legitimate in ANY way? Or are you just shitposting like a faggot?The vast majority of Atheists I know are very kind, non-degenerate and even spiritual people (yes really, it's not spirituality in a religion/god though... you probably wouldn't understand). You must not know a lot of Atheists... I know tons.

>They're also hypocrites. They scream about not having religion forced on them - which it never was to begin with - I've never seen a Christian hold a gun on an atheist and force them into church. But, they do force their disbelief on everyone else.

Do you have ANY fucking clue how many basically MILITANT Christian groups are out there? Know how many churches go around "spreading the word" and getting in people's faces when they just want to be left alone? Missionary crap... door to door crap... going to poor neighborhoods and gathering up children to tell them that their lives won't suck anymore if they just believe in Jesus... WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!?

Seriously? Try and say your an atheist in a high school and see what happens. Want to run for public office as an atheist? FUCK NO, shit not going to happen even if you're the most qualified in all of history.

Are you living in the Middle Ages, dumbass?

You sound like a dindu.... We waz kangs now give me money since my great great great granddaddy was a slave

Atheists can't have morality... Say ONE moral statement that is true for an atheist. The idea that atheists are able to make moral choices is a atheist dogma without evidence which can be easily disproven.

For a moral statement to be true it needs to have two qualities:

1. Moral claims apply regardless of your desires

(when we condemn a criminal, do we change our minds if we learn it was in his self-interest to commit it?)

2. If we morally ought to do something, we have a reason to do it.

(If we ask "why am I morally required to vote?", we couldn't take seriously someone who had no other response than "well you simply *musn't*!)

So to have a true moral statement, we have to have a reason to do it that applies regardless of our desires.

Such reasons do not make sense for atheists and therefore all moral statements an atheist says is therefore false. It is only based on random shit or by adopting certain christian moral statements or by basing their moral reasoning on the local religious morality. Atheists have no basis to make any moral claim.

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MOST ATHEISTS KNOWN AS LAND WHALE FUGLY FUCKS WITH NEEDLE DICKS.

He's just mentioning some basic liberal values.

>So to have a true moral statement, we have to have a reason to do it that applies regardless of our desires
So fear of eternal damnation is a good reason?

If you don't do X because if you do you will get in trouble, do you truly believe that X is wrong?

Rape and murder were examples. It's easy enough to know without a holy book that you shouldn't do anything to harm others. You shouldn't steal. You shouldn't cheat. You should be faithful and loyal. I'm atheist... I do not approve of homosexual ass faggot, I do not approve of interracial sex or reproduction... I loathe degeneracy.

Thing of it is... there is a massive amount of proof against your supposedly holy book... and the only "proof" you have is the holy book itself. I can write a "holy" book too and say it's proof that my made up religion and god is fact. People have done that throughout history...

Did you know that the story of Jesus being a messiah, getting sacrificed/crucified and then rising again 3 days later is NOT an original story in world religion? In religions BEFORE Christianity ever even existed there were people thought to be a messiah and worshiped as one, who were killed (even crucified in a couple cases) and who rose again days later and ascended to the after life... Christianity is just the most recent largely believed religion with this story... Learn some fucking history my little son :)

Hey... moses freed the slaves... would have been a HUGE fucking event in history... he spent 40 years leading his people to the promised land... he did all sorts of shit... and yet... and yet... there is no mention of him anywhere in any historical text or record of any kind (other than the Bible of course). A little peculiar eh?

This just shows you know nothing about christian values. Many Christians feel incredibly guilty after sinning. We do believe that sinning is bad. It's just that the rotting in hell part is an unwanted side effect.

>by adopting certain christian moral statements
most of which were drawn from other religions or cultures.

humans are social animals that benefit from behaving as properly as they'd expect the rest to behave. it's that simple, no need for your bullshit mental gimnastics or imaginary friends dictating shit.
>hurr morals
>durr christianity
well don't worry Mehmet, your muzzie invaders will get you closer to your shitty middle eastern religion if you want it so badly

Most atheists I have met are arrogant a know it alls. I'm not even exaggerating. I know w lot of atheists and everyone of them thinks they're the smartest person in the room even though the reality is they're fucking morons who know little to nothing about that which they speak.

Maybe atheism wouldn't be so looked down on if you didn't walk around like arrogant douchebags and you didn't seek attention by suing some mom and pop shop for having the word God on their sign.

Seriously, you pricks are worse than those radical Christians you complain about. AND by the way. 90% of Christians aren't like that. You happen to be talking about the evangelicals who are way too extreme. They don't even consider Catholics Christian..

>Most atheists I have met are arrogant a know it alls. I'm not even exaggerating. I know w lot of atheists and everyone of them thinks they're the smartest person in the room even though the reality is they're fucking morons who know little to nothing about that which they speak


This, senpai. It takes literally no logic at all to not believe in something.

>So fear of eternal damnation is a good reason?
It is a reason that applies regardless because everyone desires to avoid it.

So unless "killing the innocent" is disgusting by itself, even if you crave and lust for killing the innocent. And even when all other reasons "it's bad for society' etc. etc. do not apply to you. There still exist a reason that applies. Which makes the moral statement a true statement.

>most of which were drawn from other religions or cultures.

The reasoning behind it is not. A atheist can also "draw from other religions or cultures" but still the moral statements would not make sense and would not be true moral statements.

>well don't worry Mehmet, your muzzie invaders will get you closer to your shitty middle eastern religion if you want it so badly

Islam is superior anyway because they don't emulate atheists like some christians do. Because when christians change morality to conform with atheist degeneracy then they have the same moral basis as atheists (no basis)

There are still traditional christians that take the religion seriously though.

All Judo religions are retarded, kill yourself faggot, some religions are fine.

Atheism is from the people wh9 don't believe in god. Atheism existed before judaism.

Believing in God? Sure, that's reasonable. I think there's a good chance there's some sort of God.
Practicing a religion? You just went full retard.

That's nice. God still doesn't exist and you're still stupid if you think he does. Have a great day!

Explain to me how I have no morals, user.

So you're saying that if I, as an atheist, do something shitty like steal, and there is zero chance of me getting caught because of it, I'm going to feel fine about it? Becuase if you do you're delusional.

>Islam is superior
stopped reading, no need to argue any further

He can't. Hes trying and he can't. Don't even bother.

Maybe not you per se, but some other damn atheist would feel fine about it.

See:

There are quite a lot of Atheists who aren't arrogant asshats... but a lot of the ones who are... are that way because of how they are treated by Christians. You look down on us simply for our beliefs and treat us as the worst scum there could possibly be and as a result some Atheists respond by acting arrogant. It's simple really...

Also, most atheists I know have SIGNIFICANTLY more knowledge about the Bible, religion, and world history than the vast VAST majority of Christians. I went to Church for many years... most of those people hadn't ever read the whole Bible. It's the same trend across the entire United States.

Also... I'm not sure you realize how many churches and organizations there are out there who "spread the word" and spend quite a bit of money to do it. I've lived in I think 17 states now... I've never lived in poor areas but everywhere I've been religion is thrown in my face wherever I fucking go.

Edgelord from one of the higher atheist countries in the world is trying to rebel by loving Jesus or something. Fucking faggot.

If you don't feel fine then you are just being irrational. There is no logical reason why an atheist would consider stealing "shitty". You only do it due to christian indoctrination. Did pre-christian societies view stealing as shitty? No... In viking scandinavia and ancient greece it was considered your own damn fault if someone managed to steal from you or if you are so weak that someone was able to rob from you. Stealing was morally neutral

The only reason YOU feel blame for stealing is due to Christian indoctrination. There is no logical reason why an atheist should view that as morally bad.

Atheists can't have morality... Say ONE moral statement that is true for an atheist. The idea that atheists are able to make moral choices is a atheist dogma without evidence which can be easily disproven.

For a moral statement to be true it needs to have two qualities:

1. Moral claims apply regardless of your desires

(when we condemn a criminal, do we change our minds if we learn it was in his self-interest to commit it?)

2. If we morally ought to do something, we have a reason to do it.

(If we ask "why am I morally required to vote?", we couldn't take seriously someone who had no other response than "well you simply *musn't*!)

So to have a true moral statement, we have to have a reason to do it that applies regardless of our desires.

Such reasons do not make sense for atheists and therefore all moral statements an atheist says is therefore false.

So when you hurt someone you don't get a physical reaction like a sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach?

Sounds like you're just a piece of shit.

Where does morality come from, then? God?

I have morals AND a reason to live. Atheism is not the root of degeneracy, as we dont believe in what someone else says completely or else our fictional character sends us to a bad place.

You've brought a horrid argument to the table with no evidence to support your awful assertions. Try again.

You're right, morals arent objective. You CAN get morals from God if you follow him entirely. You dont get all your morals from him though. I definitely didnt, but if i were to agree with a christian does it mean i got my morals from him? or did you get them from an atheist?

maybe we came to a conclusion on our own?

Wait, if morals aren't objective, why do we need morals from God?

>So when you hurt someone you don't get a physical reaction like a sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach?

I don't really do those things, but I would feel bad if I did. But for atheist morality is only valid if you feel bad. If you don't feel bad about killing the innocent then atheists have no reason to think it's morally wrong. While for the religious morality is still valid even if you don't feel bad and even if you suffer lack of empathy you still can be moral because you still have a reason to think it is morally wrong or morally good.

Yes.

>but if i were to agree with a christian does it mean i got my morals from him?

Atheists still have no morality even when you copy the morality from the religious. Because atheists have no basis to claim that the moral idea they have is true.

Let's say that you agree with the christian that it is morally wrong to rape a baby and you have no intention to do it. But when you say "It is wrong to murder a baby" you are making a truth claim about the world, while the only reason you think that is because you do not feel an impulse to do it and because you LIKE the christian morality. It is not real morality to say "X is wrong, unless you want to do X" because then it only applies to people who have no intention to do X anyway. Morality is for people who WANT to do X but should avoid it even if they want to.

>morals arent objective.
So you are saying morality don't exist or don't make sense. Well.. That's the best an atheist can do.

I have morality. Using logic and reasoning, you can understand human condition and basic ethical standards that can provide you and everyone around you with an ability to better individuals.

>when we condemn a criminal, do we change our minds if we learn it was in his self-interest to commit it?

no, because social laws are in place where this is not allowed. There are exceptions to your first quality. There is a social standard everyone has to follow, those laws were made in the same way individuals can produce a moral standard for themselves.

Just because we have a reason to do things, do we always do that? I can understand peoples justifications through discussion. What is the problem here?

I didnt get my morals from God, i dont think slavery is good.

>I have morality. Using logic and reasoning, you can understand human condition and basic ethical standards that can provide you and everyone around you with an ability to better individuals.

Oh yeah? Say just ONE moral statement that you think is true. About anything and let's see how this atheist "logic and reasoning" holds up to real logic.

There's a novel by Guy Thorne called "When It Was Dark." In the story, it is reported that the resurrection of Christ was fake, and it spreads throughout the world. After this, the world descends into chaos. Morality is gone. People fight with one another, sex with another in the streets, stealing from each other, etc. It is then revealed that it was all a hoax by a Jew who is against Christianity.

If something came out disproving the existence of God, I can't imagine any of my Christian friends or relatives acting out. I'm sure they'd be distraught knowing what they believed in was false, but I don't see them killing or raping or stealing from people.

Read Sam Harris - The Moral Landscape

Don't need a Sky Jew to tell you that rape is bad. The thing is, that the Sky Jew can change his opinion and say rape/genocide/etc. is good (see Old Testament or Abraham going to murk his kid, etc.). There's no morality with God, it's just dictates.

If rape is already objectively bad, then there's no need for the sky Jew. If whatever sky Jew says is moral, then there's no morality, rape can be moral, it's just whatever Sky Jew dictates.

> If you don't feel bad about killing the innocent
If you don't feel bad about killing someone you're a fucking psychopath. It doesn't matter whether you're a religious person or not at that point.
> But for atheist morality is only valid if you feel bad
No. Mentally healthy people know the difference between right and wrong. Doesn't matter if they're religious or not you can still tell if you've done something wrong. Unless you're a fucking psychopath.
>While for the religious morality is still valid even if you don't feel bad and even if you suffer lack of empathy you still can be moral because you still have a reason to think it is morally wrong or morally good.
Why do we need religion to tell us what is good and bad? It's pretty fucking obvious isn't it?

So basically what I'm getting from you is that religion only helps people who are completely lacking in empathy. Those people are going to shitty things either way, and they'll know if it's wrong or right if they're mentally healthy enough. That's why there's the insanity defense, it;s for people who don't know the difference between right and wrong. Those people are fucked in the head with or without religion.

Logic is so fucking cold and bland. Atheists don't actually use it either.
>no, my daughter, you cannot have this many se partners because *shows graph*

>X is wrong, unless you want to do X
If i say punching is wrong, and i punch you in the face, does that make it okay? of course not. my rights end when i put my fist in your face. Aside from that, there isn't a reason to do it unless im defending myself. You didnt get the rest of my point though. What if the christian agrees with me? are they taking an atheist morality?

/thread

>progressive scum
there was a time when Christianity was considered progressive because it is rather fluffy and nice compared to its predecessors

Murder is bad.

>Morals aren't objective

>Atheism is part of the root of degeneracy, and liberal "do what you want" rhetoric. You are progressive scum.

Fuck cultural relativistic scum

Slavery (non-consenting) is bad.

Y'know the thing that Southern Baptists/Fundamentalist Christians defended cause of their sky wizard.

I'm an atheist. Murder is bad.

Because the claim would provide evidence to support the opinion? Sounds pretty hypocritical to me. You dont agree with everything God says.

Do read your post again, it appears to be a drooling retard.

>but I don't see them killing or raping or stealing from people.

The only reason you consider those things bad moral behaviour is due to christianity. Pre-christian Europe viewed it as morally neutral.

>Read Sam Harris - The Moral Landscape

He based his whole book on the naturalistic fallacy. It is a logical fallacy. None of it holds up to logical scrutiny...

say ONE moral statement that you think is true and the reason you think it's true. You can use the moral landscape as much as you want, it just makes it easier to point out the logical flaws.

>If i say punching is wrong, and i punch you in the face, does that make it okay?

For an atheist? Yes, there is no atheist reason why it is wrong to lie and then punch someone in the face.

>my rights end when i put my fist in your face.

You FEEL it does because someone has told you and you parrot it because you like the idea. There is no reasoning behind you thinking that.

>What if the christian agrees with me? are they taking an atheist morality?

Christians only have morality in so far as they take morality from their religion. If they change their religion and have the same basis as atheists then of course they lack morality like the atheists.

>Murder is bad.

Alright, give me a atheist reason for why you think it is true that apply to all atheists (even atheists who want to murder).

>Slavery (non-consenting) is bad.

Alright, give me a atheist reason for why you think it is true that apply to all atheists (even atheists who want to own non-consenting slaves).

>They don't do that either, so I can do that too

It's called "Bandwagon" and you're in it

>telling people who live by the "i do what i want" lifestyle to stop doing what they want
Hahahahaha why do you waste your time? Did you really think this would accomplish anything?

Ah... a logical fallacy. Which is the main driver of atheist thinking of course. But it does not provide anything.

Even if my post is "a drooling retard." as you say, it is still logically valid, it is still true and there are no logical flaws in the post.

>You have no morals, and no real reason to live.

As a person of faith, this line of logic disgusts me. Faith doesn't instill morality. Someone who possesses a true relationship with the divine is not driven by a desire to follow rules or to do good, neither threat nor reward should be necessary. Wisdom ought to make you better. Obedience is for beasts of burden.

Alright friend, I'll give you a free pass in my mind, because you're obviously new here. I've lived as an atheist my entire life, and have not taken part in any degeneracy in my lifetime so far. I'm currently attending college, oftentimes considered the peak of degeneracy on this board, and haven't plugged a skank, done any drugs, or gotten drunk. All without some god to guide me. It's something I like to call self-control, and it's served me well so far.

>Alright, give me a atheist reason for why you think it is true that apply to all atheists (even atheists who want to murder).

>implying no religious person wants to murder
Nigga you retarded.

This has to be bait, kill yourself

>I can't handle the concept that life has no meaning therefore I'll just say that atheists have no morals despite the fact that all crime is overwhelmingly committed by people of faith instead of atheists
Go cry to your priest heathen, maybe he'll let you suck on his pee pee for a whole 5 minuets this time if you cry hard enough

can't say any of the books hailed as divine by the religions in the OP are moral desu lad
rife with utter shit, innumerable contractions and broken logic

if god existed, and was the character described by the bible I wouldn't consider them moral

So am I degenerate if I do not believe in any religion yet uphold moral values of Sup Forums? You're a degenerate if you think that.

>Achmed discovers a new word in English

There IS a reason as to why lying and violence is wrong. I want people to be civil, honest, and peaceful. I don't want to fight with people, and i want to hear the honest opinions of individuals without arguing against false points or assertions without evidence. I take responsibility within my own hands, and ensure to the best of my extent to pay for things i've done wrong to people, regardless of the severity or issue.

Murder is bad because I wouldnt want to be murdered. All atheists dont have to agree with me, we aren't a group of people who believe in the same thing you silly goose. Look up atheism in the dictionary.

No, I see those things as bad behavior, to put it lightly, because know it's wrong. We wouldn't be able to survive as a species if we went around killing and stealing from another? Do you think the Jews got as far as Mount Sinai before Moses said, "Alright, guys, God says this has killing and stealing has to stop."

Have you ever had something taken from you? It doesn't feel right. Ever been harmed by someone? Our emotions also give a sense of how we don't want to be treated. What causes these emotions? The brain. Chemically speaking, dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine, and so on. We've adopted words such as "love" and "compassion" to describe what these emotions are for our survival.

i cant express how much autism i feel running through my body after reading this post

Another logical fallacy, the best atheist thinking available straight to Sup Forums. But logical fallacies provide nothing.


Even if my post is "bait" as you say, it is still logically valid, it is still true and there are no logical flaws in the post.

I never said no religious person wants to murder, religious people break their own rules all the time. But they still know it is wrong, a atheist have no logical reason to think it is wrong.

You only reply like that because ATHEISTS have no reason to think murdering is wrong. But religious people DO have a reason to think it is wrong.

It can be logically proven that atheists have no morality. Prove me wrong. Say ANY moral statement that you think it's true and give a reason that applies to all atheists, even those who want to break that moral statement.

>There IS a reason as to why lying and violence is wrong.

Not for atheists.

>I want people to be civil, honest, and peaceful.

To say something is morally wrong it should apply to the people who do NOT care about these things.

>Murder is bad because I wouldnt want to be murdered. All atheists dont have to agree with me, we aren't a group of people who believe in the same thing you silly goose. Look up atheism in the dictionary.

Ah.. alright, so murder is morally wrong for you because you would not murder anyway. But it is morally good for people who DO want to murder people?