MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

I assert that traditional women are worse relationship material than feminists. Here is why:

>youtube.com/watch?v=D_b8Gs6WoW0

I hate feminism. My assertion that traditional women are worse relationship material than feminists is not an endorsement of feminism.

It seems to me that there is a common misconception that traditional women are the antithesis of feminism. They are not. I assert that a traditional woman is nothing more than a feminist who wants to get her slaves back.

Traditional women are much more harmful to men than feminists.

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fuck off you ubercuck

literally end youself

No.

After all the damage that feminism has done to society. Mgtow is the only path left to take if you don't want to be a beta cuck

Most people don't speak of feminism and by giving up on women and marriage you are the beta cuck

Being MGTOW has been the secret to my financial success in life.

At first it was instinctive. After witnessing my father get royally screwed over in my parents divorce, a little voice in the back of my mind has always been there, warning me never to never get too close to a woman emotionally.

It wasn't until later in life that I discovered that I had been MGTOW all along, instinctively. Now, all of my friends are divorced. They are struggling financially and are emotional wrecks and their ex-wives are living high on the hog, having drained the vital essences out of my friends, taken them for what they are worth and then disposed of them like a used, broken tool.

I actually feel sorry for them.

Being beta provider is alpha for you I guess

>by giving up on women and marriage you are the beta cuck

Actually, it's the opposite. There is nothing more cuck than volunteering to be a woman's provision drone.

I really don't understand why Sup Forums acts so aggressively towards mgtow, it's very very strange.

I can understand the point of view that men living just for themselves isn't sustainable, and that in the past men did have to "man up" or nothing would have gotten done. And that's fine, but the problem is today isn't yesterday and it won't be for a very long time.

I think it's really great if you live a more traditional life. I myself wouldn't mind having 5+ kids and a stay at home wife, I think that would be really nice. But I don't pretend to think that it will be possible for everyone. People aren't completely predictable, men and especially women can do absolutely stupid things for seemingly no reason at all. I think a lot of people on here get some type of "high" saying man up or when they try to make themselves seem more manly than others. It's very strange considering we're on the Internet.

Something I think that is similar to the argument they use against mgtow is this one: why don't all western men go get their hair colored green tomorrow? Green hair coloring is readily available so why don't all western men get their hair colored?

Mgtow = anti masculinity movement

pol got brain washed and thinks just like Stacy that it's okay to shame on man.
White girls are a meme. They don't want to settle down until they are mid 30. The sooner you leave the stinking cunts and go for foreign chicks the better.

Premavirgins: The Thread

>Lulz u never got ur dick wet

It isn't Sup Forums, it's stormfags who lurk Sup Forums who use this board to promote racial propaganda and who consider MGTOW a threat to their efforts to encourage white people to out breed shitskins.

From their perceptive, every white male who is exposed to MGTOW is a potential loss to their cause. If they could, they would ban MGTOW threads from Sup Forums in order to prevent white newfags who come to Sup Forums from being exposed to MGTOW.

It's funny how much their emotional arguments resemble the shaming tactics usually associated with Jezebel shills.

loud 'i cant get a gf waah life is so unfair i spent too long on r9k/equivalent and now my worldview is fucked up and i cant be bothered going outside to confirm whether what i believe is true : ( : (' whining

Sup Forums is more than one person mate.

I personally refuse to associate or identify with a "movement". You wont find me protesting in some event, or blogging, but yes I could be considered MGTOW.

I like to use the phrase "monk mode". Im not looking for women, or handing out favors, but I wont shoot down some qt who dtf casually.

It all comes down to not letting women use you, walk all over you, or even hold your growth back.

The trick is simply NOT having a gf until you are in a point in your life, where you are a "made man" and can afford a minor distraction.

>she leaves
>meh, I can get another one

As opposed to

>be NEET
>meet SNOWFLAKE UNICORN
>she leaves
>DEPRESSION
>SUICIDE
>WAAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAHHHH

Mgtow is a good idea, but dont follow a group man.

will u please just shut the fuck up. the retardation in this place is upsetting.

youtu.be/5f4kxAgR098

MGTOW is not a movement. It's a lifestyle.
In order to be MGTOW, all you have to do is not enter into a relationship with a woman.

That's it. That's all it is.

No. I will not shut the fuck up.

>LOOK AT ME NOT DATING WOMEN
>LOOK AT ME REJECTING THE MODERN FEMINIST WOMAN
>LOOK AT ME REJECTING MARRIAGE 2.0
>LOOK AT ME BEING A LONE WOLF BADSS SAYING NO MORE
>LOOK AT ME BLOGGING ABOUT IT EVERYDAY
>LOOK AT ME ARGUING WITH FEMINISTS WHY IM MGTOW

Yeah, right.

>LOOK AT ME PUTTING PUSSY ON THE PEDESTAL

cant prove shit on the internet, but i'm not from stormfront. i just find it fucking depressing to see 'men' blaming anyone but themselves for their not being able to find a compatible woman. it's pathetic, it shows you were raised wrong. have some fucking pride and keep your bitching to yourself and use the hardship as a motivator to succeed, either in finding someone or god forbid, learning how to be alone and be fine with it. the sentiment is fine if you KEEP IT TO YOURSELF but if you feel the need to make posts about it then it just screams 'i'm so lonely! why can't i get a gf??? :(((('

tldr; it's about self-respect, and MGTOW is the antithesis of self-respect

>>youtube.com/watch?v=D_b8Gs6WoW0

I would correct you user to say that feminism is just a form of traditionalism.

Read my previous comment kid.

This isnt a blue-pill shit-flinging thread.

>You need a woman to have self respect

There is no more organization behind the desire to share the benefits of the MGTOW lifestyle than there is in recommending to someone that they go see a good movie. When you see a good movie, do you not tell your friends, "Hey, this movie was really good. You should go see it"

Why does the notion of me telling guys who are not familiar with MGTOW what MGTOW is upset you so much, user?
>am I interfering with an agenda?

>m not from stormfront. i just find it fucking depressing to see 'men' blaming anyone but themselves for their not being able to find a compatible woman. it's pathetic, it shows you were raised wrong.

See
>I think a lot of people on here get some type of "high" saying man up or when they try to make themselves seem more manly than others. It's very strange considering we're on the Internet.

I really don't understand how you could think this. It's very clear to me why some men can't find traditional women.

youtube.com/watch?v=D_b8Gs6WoW0

To be truly red pilled, you need to be familiar with both sides of an argument.

You have to be one fat fuck.

Im not saying its a bad movement mate.

Im saying its a movement, which you tried to refute.

MGTOW is a (good) movement and no doubt more and more men will sign up.

Sadly one has to be honest and realistic.

Most men who are getting free top tier pussy, will continue to do so, with or without the rest "walking away".

This will come naturally within the next 20 years, but again, Chad will get his, no matter what.

And if science has taught us anything, women would rather share Chad, than settle for Brian.

jesus fucking christ learn to read - it's not about needing a woman to have self respect, it's about NOT BEING A FUCKING WHINY BITCH. you need to not be a fucking whiny bitch in order to have self-respect. if you believe in the 'MGTOW' idea(s) then whatever, so long as you keep it to yourself. making threads about it and actually needing a fucking hugbox community for validation is fucking pathetic i.e. no self-respect

It isn't a movement. It's a lifestyle.

What triggers Sup Forums more, cuckoldry of MGTOW?

LABELLING WOMEN AS ANYTHING IS WHERE IT'S STUPID. THEY ARE PEOPLE. FEMINISTS ARE A HIVE. MY GIRL, MY SLAVE, IS A PERSON. FUCK OFF. EVERY CHOICE THEY MAKE IS THEIR OWN AND IF THEY DON'T OWN THAT, THEY ARE HOLLOW AND NOT REAL.

>86790568
Shut your fucking face dumb kiwi

Going my own way and being independent makes me a whiny bitch?

>he thinks he discovered some mystery of life by watching youtube videos

Some of us actually learned these "truths" by spending time with women mate.

The reason for the (justified) hostility to MGTOW is twofold. The first is that they are unwitting subversives whose actions actively support the leftist agenda of population replacement in the western world. The second is simply that, as is the case with all of the vociferous radical feminists out there, most MGTOW are absolutely vile AIDS Skrillex-looking men who would be guaranteed failures in the sexual marketplace even if they weren't ostensibly boycotting it. It's entirely natural for impartial observers to react with scorn and contempt towards what is ultimately a defense mechanism rooted in pure doublethink.

That being said, the ones who are actually superlative/accomplished men like Newton or the ones who are actually willing to go the full distance like Origen did are alright in my book.

>click "embed" to watch OP's video
>how bad can it actually be
>mfw run time is 56:44

*or, for fuck's sake

Its a movement.

"Monk-mode" is a lifestyle.

"MGTOW" is a trending movement.

Theres a fucking reddit page for it ffs.

ok

it's a lifestyle

I gave you an argument. You dont give one back.

Nice talking to you.

Either way. MGTOW (the movement) is better than showering Western women with attention and orbiting like a pathetic clown.

have lot's of white babies faggots.

Hourly reminder that Sup Forums is not a MGTOW friendly board.
You are just as bad as feminists.
You are helping fuel white genocide.
Traditionalism is the western civilizations only hope.
If you can't even handled a woman in marriage and be a great father you are literally worthless.

mgtow.com/video/mgtow-versus-mra/

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Shed some light, Ameribro.

What's a day in your life like?

I'm at that critical age where I either find a parasite to marry, or carry on with my career + gain a disposable income. I'd love the latter, but living alone seems empty. Help me out man.

>you white people shouldn't reproduce anymore
>just play video games and do your own thing!
>its way smarter, goy!

>Are even man enough to handle a REAL WYMIN

Hang yourself MGTOW neckbeard.

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Will you get it through your thick skill that Im familiar with all your acronyms and "movements"?

I understand that MRA is for old divorced men, getting fucked by the courts, which is different for young men who reject marriage 2.0.

Im out.

Lol Ahmed

>be spic
>can afford to be MGTOW because me choosing not to marry and reproduce doesn't endanger my people at all
>spics will continue to grow and destroy this country even if I do decide to add one more or not at all, probably none.

You whites on the other hand, will need everyone on deck making more white babies.

>MGTOW teaches absolute sovereignty over a man's self
>The movement and it's reputation has suffered considerably from the hordes of bluepill cucks who stumbled and found emotional refuge there while promoting it frantically
>Wise,free men don't need MGTOW because strong men don't attach themselves to labels and movements
>Take what you need from it and don't be another groupie follower propagating it all over the place,the guys who need it will find it

Feminists are horrible degenerate women who hate their dad.

MGTOW are disgusting degenerate boys who don't know what to do with a real woman.

Traditionalists women are the crown of civilization and what real men cherish and defend.

Why are people even responding to this?

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Because unlike you sven we don't want to be in a submissive relationship taking on the role of a nu-male getting spanked by his wife

Hooray now you're a piece of shy boy with more money to spend on video games and hookers.

Congratulations you're worked hard to be a financially stable useless piece of shit. You really showed all those regular low income pieces of shit who at least made some failed effort towards being a man

You're retarded. It's a pro-masculinity movement.

Notice how feminism is an invasive ideology, while MGTOW is evasive. It's the light that guides us from misery later down the road. If we get married, only to end up divorced, well then there goes our sense of masculinity, not to mention a wave of depression. MGTOW attempts to save men from inevitable failure, encouraging them to pursue their goals in life - whether it be investing one's time and money in a hobby, or working one's way towards a successful career.

>Be white
>Live in hedonism and disciplined self-indulgence
>Watch my race slowly genocide itself, but it's okay.
>All that will be left is a world of niggers and spics.
>And they deserve the Asian Holocaust of 2170.

>Men Going Their Own Way
>come join me f-fellow m-men
this is pathetic

Because men are incredibly insecure and selfish and have no backbone so they can't actually handle a woman and deal with their emotional stress, while also teaching them how to think correctly. They are so valueless, they would rather let their life turn into someone else's abyss, rather than stand up for what they know is right, making some brattish, mentally ill princess to learn how to feel guilt and accept the hand of someone who can protect her better than she can protect herself.

Not shaming men, shaming little faggot Peter Pans

You sound like a femenist

Yes, the modern relationship/marriage dynamic is fucked.

But PUAs and MGTOW are cowards. Two sides of the same coin.

If you want to help fix western civilization, you're gonna have to get your hands dirty. Stick it out, there are decent women out there.

MGTOW faggots have deluded themselves into thinking they're winning the game by not playing. I'd say that MGTOW is another ploy to make whites stop breeding if I didn't know how fucking asshurt you beta faggots are.

Men resent MGTOW faggots creeping in when we're fighting to preserve our civilization against numales and invading third world hordes

Found the woman

I embraced the 2D world years ago and couldn't be happier with my situation.

>You're a useless piece of shit unless you breed more useless pieces of shit

When Irish woman look like this you can understand why I am mgtow. I am 28 6'3 and decent looking I have zero interest in modern woman. They are fucking disgusting. Irish woman are the worst woman on the planet.

The few, the proud, the guys whose PlayStation controllers are cakes in a mixture of their owns dried up jizz and Cheeto dust

>Not getting with the smartest girl in your highschool, working on your relationship for at least five years and studying medicine together, eventually marrying and having kids

Why would I need MGTOW? The only reason she'd ever leave me is because I'm a huge asshole from time to time. She even accepts that as a condition, it's just when I sink so low that I actively try to push her away as a means of self-destruction that she puts her foot down

Today I was at the grocery store, checking out the local talent. Saw 2 women, maybe 30ish. One was cute, so I thought I'd approach.

Just as I walked up, I overhear their conversation:

"She is doing pretty good, yea, he has to pay her a good amount each month", followed by "There isn't any agreement for him to see the kid, she made out pretty good".

So here I am, on the prowl, and just as I am about to chat up a chick, I catch her talking about a friend of hers who won out on the alimony/child custody.

What really made my skin crawl was the voice used. It wasn't snobby, it wasn't congratulatory. Her voice was as matter of fact. That all a woman has got to do is be a woman, and she'll fleece away. It was terrifying. I thought Sup Forums over exaggerated the ruthlessness of women. I thought, no, it's only after a divorce that women are given some perks. No. It's part of their consciousness.

i have sympathy for MGTOW
they are definetly a reactionary necessety to modern day feminised culture.

if it means thought that you just sit around all day play video games, watch netflix and jerk your dick to porn than you will get what you deserve.

MGTOW should define itself more clearly if they want more recognition

>dating a post wall woman

top kek. Stay under 25 mate.

> I have zero interest in modern woman
> posts screenshot of his Tinder find

>Install keylogger on her phone/pc
>tfw when you find out how many chads she's fucking on the side

Starting at the age of 18, I was a bartender for 14 years. I saved up my money and became business partners with a regular customer who frequented the last bar I tended. My business partner agreed to a silent partnership. He was already a successful lawyer who owned his own firm and he had confidence in my ability to manage.

My first bar was in the black seven months after we opened. It was a hamburger and wings joint. We opened at 11 am and did not close until 4am. We offered a 50% discount to all local waiters and bartenders and we became a hangout for them (20 year olds with disposable cash income). When they had a night off, they would bring their friends (who didn't get the discount).

Two years after I opened my own place, I had opened three more bars. All of them successful. I saved up my money, created an LLC and began buying real estate. I eventually built an apartment building that had a bar that I owned on the first floor. 7 floors of tenants and a penthouse suite on the top floor that I lived in (I now live in a house and rent out the penthouse).

I have several lovers. I also know a few strippers who moonlight as prostitutes on the side. Years of bartending enabled me to make a very large circle of male friends. I own three boats, a lake house and pretty much everything I own is paid for.

I seriously doubt any of this would have been possible if I had married or had kids.

I assert that you are a faggot, and here is why: You spend any amount of time on Sup Forums, you whine about women the exact same way that beta's that can't get a girlfriend do, you claim to care about yourself, yet fail to understand that humans are social creatures, and that forming a bond with another person is imperative in doing what you were born to do, which is reproduce.

What have you accomplished in your time since you "abandoned" women? I'll bet youve done nothing noteworthy or of value. I'll bet that you've done exactly what you've been doing, but with a different attitude.

The problem with people like you is that you do the exact same thing that radical feminists do, you generalize the entire group because of something that a few have done. You don't have any self awareness, you just mimic and parrot everything you see and hear, and reject anything that does not immediately conform to what you think you stand for.

Women are not the enemy, the feminist ideology is the enemy. An ideology can turn anyone from great to terrible if the right chords are plucked, and the fact that you don't understand that and just assume women are venomous screams "I'm going to reject them before they reject me".

I play the dating game, and i've kept my pants on the entire time. I ended a six month relationship because my girlfriend at the time said that she wanted sex, but didn't want to get married yet. Sure, I could have just fucked her and then dealt with the inevitable breakup years into the future, but I chose to end it there because we had differing ideas on what a successful relationship was. Since then i've been on dates with four girls, two of them were just looking for a fling, one of them turned out to be an extreme liberal that threw her shake in my face on the first date, and the fourth girl was great, but we couldn't stick together because I wanted kids eventually and she was sterile.

Just kill yourself right now, accomplish the same result and also the rest of us won't have to listen to your MGTOW teenage loser tier faggotry

THIS

Did you even read what I said? You get to own the woman. She's their for YOU to protect. You, the predicate and the focus. That's how the natural way was, you fucking imbeciles. Yeah, it's really feminist and woman to consider maternity and predatory threats... well, I guess it is, but the man exists as a stronger force than the woman, so the workload physically will situate that. The male is the protector in the relationship, usually. It is not necessary, but it's usual and most efficient. She follows your rhythms. She sees, you move. It's a whole dynamic. You're just too much of a pussy to even logic that far so you just retard me with simple replies.
That's why women are shit, because men equally are shit. None of you stand up for what's right or what you feel. You're all self-depreciated sheep, quick to insult and reject. Your anger is a weak fuel, it has no purity to tie it to.

Sounds /comfy/ as fuck.

She wouldn't be able to hide unfaithfulness for five full seconds

We trust eachother more than anything else, know all of eachothers friends and she's very virginal. I'm the liability in our relationship on that regard, and I make sure to keep myself in check, because I realize every time how much I love her and that I'd never hurt what we've developed for eachother over random sexual advances

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one on Sup Forums with a working relationship

>I really don't understand why Sup Forums acts so aggressively towards mgtow, it's very very strange.

Because they're afraid of being outnumbered by blacks and hispanics, so they want you to have white babies.

Also, because they are not having white babies themselves. It's not that they are not having enough white babies - they are having none. I have literally never seen anyone here prove that they found the traditional qt3.14 girlfriend or wife they say that MGTOWs should go pursue.

>And they deserve the Asian Holocaust of 2170.
We really do. Having been around them all my life, spics can never measure up to whites or East Asians.

Would rather see a world destroyed by nuclear weapons than a world without whites.

>Just kill yourself right now
I'm staying alive just to see the happening and race wars in my lifetime, is that too much to ask?

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And, furthermore, none of you have any idea how to feel feminine. You all run from ideas of feeling, not realizing all logic is going to be run through your emotions first, because you think with your emotions. You need to be pure, free, and without care, but you're all such angry little men, afraid of change and giving yourself over. You've never suffered, only pictured it. You should've cared about the suffering of all, instead of the suffering of the close few.
You weak men are suffering to me, in contrast only to spitefulness of the feminine condition, which breaks my heart more than anything.

was meant for
sage

> ...what you were born to do, which is to reproduce.
Are we mindless animals? Robot-like microbes that replicate and then just die?

>You get to own the woman.
>The state backs her up if she ever feels like kicking you out of the house and force you to give half your future income for years to come
I genuinely wish to understand how the average bluepill mind doublethinks itself into thinking like you.

This is literally "I'm a faggot but I don't publicly admit that I'm gay."

Make all the cuck jokes you want but I know richfags, when you swear off women you still have to relieve sexual tension somehow without getting a woman involved.

This. A million times this.

Why are you just reading one part of what I'm saying and replying to only that?

> I'm a grill btw

Yes, you and I are nothing but stardust that gained some level of sentience, but sentience does not mean we have a higher purpose, we are born to breed and then die. That is all.