Britbong here, excuse the American flag

Britbong here, excuse the American flag

Okay guys, the 'alt-right' movement is a joke. And it's making the right wing look like a joke. It has no structure, no organisation, and no official policies.

I propose that we begin work on forming an international right wing movement, with a name, a symbol, and set of values.

We don't fight the left wing with stupid non factual memes, but hard cited data over and over again. We must be careful to word every single argument so even the liberals struggle to find fault or racism in our words. We must be appealing to both the intellectual and non intellectual voters.

Its time to stop fucking around and focus on actually changing something. So who want's to help form this political movement and get shit done?

(God save the Queen)

>joke
>what is brexit
>what is trump
Fuck that. Labels give them something to attack. Something to infiltrate. Something to divide and conquer. All this place is is free speech and freedom of information.

Brexit and Trump are very marginal diet right wing successes. If we every want something better than tiny right wing gains whilst europe is flooded with Muslim immigration and our children are poisoned by left wing media, then we need to win over more public support.

Brexit and Trump are fucking MASSIVE. Unprecedented. Unthinkable only two months ago. The whole people are coming round. We need Trump now. He will realign the world.

But they are the result of old people getting out their zimmer frames and casting a vote for the first time in 50 years. The new generations must become more right wing or we are doomed.

Yes goy, start a group so we can infiltrate it and subvert it.

nice try, but nobody likes closet socialists, even if they discovered patriotism. Like it or not, the best way to fight the marxists is to decentralize and bog them down on multiple fronts. Works here.

But why not organise our political opposition to make it more effective? Why not have a website where we can find cited academic sources to back up our every argument?

We need to do this I agree but I propose that however it should begin we need to accept common principles. A mutual respect for individual freedom of religion & secular governmental policy. Making decisions entirely on object, empirical data. & an opposition to the decadent modern forms of Capitalism & Consumerism that prevents a healthy sense of nationalism from forming.

Because the shitflingers on the left will inevitalby persuade everyone that this website is racist or some other made up insult. See the recent drama with pol. They have become experts with discrediting their political opponents. Better not step in the same trap again. We are much more effective as a decentralized entitiy under many, smaller leaders than we are united. We'll wear them down, spend all their credibility and destroy them when they are down onthe ground.

The reason its easy to paint pol as racist is because everyone on here shares pictures of Hitler whilst complaining about 'shitskins'. The movement I'm proposing wont be stupid enough to allow itself to be represented by that

Thank you! We need more people behind it though. We need to start a group chat of sorts so we can discuss ideas more easily

No-one is stopping you OP.

It must be said, there are already plenty of websites already doing this: VDare, Amren, TOO etc.

Nevertheless every little helps. If you think you have a contribution to make that merits a new site you can go right ahead.

Can we get one going? What app is best

You do realize that any conservative or any non globalist idea is right wing, racist and non 2016? Fuck, even leaving the EU, which is basically harmless, was spun up as the end of the world. No, any weak point we give them, they'll exploit and weaken us further.

I dont have the resources or the intellect to do it all myself, it cant be a botch job, it has to be professional

If you don't have the intellect to do it yourself... why do you want to start a new site at all?

On the other hand, if you have money, there are plenty of sites you can donate to right now and help the cause. Servers and bandwidth aren't free.

If you have neither intellect nor money, you can donate your time to working to obtain money which you can use to help out.

I don't know about the rest of you boys but I myself am attending uni & trying to redpill (coopt) the preexisting conservative organizations. I'm also using other organizations & clubs as a bully pulpit for sharing my views with the community.

I'm thinking about starting a nationalist organization/club & inviting people who are mainly attracted to economic populism & economic/social justice for all races & classes. Can Sup Forums give me advice

Because it's American Nationalism it would need to be more focused towards Civic Nationalism rather than ethnic like the lucky Europoors. We would have to encourage a unified American identity that's based on the unifying concepts of the Founding Fathers.

I don't even know what "alt-right" even means.
It's not a movement nor recognised organisation.
I suppose it is a term created by lefties and guardian readers.

Yes, mate. God save the Queen. Her Majesty is the glue that keeps us together. Long may she reign!

I want a group to build one because I dont think what I'm thinking of has been done yet. I think it could help us in the debates against normies. We need to get more people on our side

We can never genuinely win at democratic politics. The Gimmiedat Obamaphone party single mom party always wins regardless of the nominal result. That is inherently baked in to the nature of democracy. That is what Democracy is. Democracy is single mums on my tax dollar and obamaphones on my phone bill.

The best outcome is not Trump winning the election, which would make almost no difference, but Trump declaring himself God Emperor Trump the first.

Our efforts must not be watered down by demotic politics.

This
We have to make ourselves as appealing to as many normies as humanly possible. Even if it means dialing back some of the crazy shit we say here in our echo chamber.

We have to Bismarck this shot guys seriously

Yes, it is a joke. What's your point? Oh you... heh you thought it was supposed to be morr than a meme?

>Getting people into a structured frame is going to interest young people interested

Thanks Napoleon but we were making our memes while you were still in short pants

> Set of values

Good luck, we have fucking Marxists to National-Socialists here. Getting them to agree on the fine detail won't happen.

Obviously not, but there are fundementals we can all agree on. The idea isnt to turn everyone into one particular subsection of the right wing, only to get them the fuck away from the left wing

Hows group me?

It'll never work.
First of all, right wing ideals are all fucked.
Second of all, nobody's gonna want to actually organize from here. It's too difficult to leave home due to the constant diarrhea that comes with a high-fat diet and sedentary lifestyle.
Third, no one will take you seriously. Sup Forums has been introduced as an instant pariah, and overcoming that will be impossible, especially if any actual conservatives take a look here.
Fourth, conservatism is a bad idea to begin with. The only thing that should stay the same one millennia to the next is math. Everything evolves, even society. Suck it up. Change is inevitable.

>It has no structure, no organisation, and no official policies.

Because it's just a made up term

You are doomed.
Conservatism hasn't worked, and young people know that.

>it's making the right wing look like a joke

Lol are you fucking serious right now, Nigel?

Were you NOT around for the republican tea party? Or the "neo" conservatives?

Do you not remember Sarah Palin???

the "alt-right" is an imaginary boogy man created by leftists to try to articulate a target for their hate speech, ad hominem, and derisiveness.

The alt right never existed. All there is in America are reactionary common folk who are realizing their government isn't doing its god damn job and deporting people who are not here legally, as well as giving Hillary Clinton and company a free pass despite breaking numerous laws.

Well, most of them are beaten into submission. They have given up on the political process. The alt right is basically a bunch of young people who have decided that conservative ideas are subversive. Tey are like punks in a way.