The Defenders

what went wrong?

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there's also the same scene but with elektra

The Hand were complete and utter morons with the shittiest motivation.

Fuck this show for killing Stick so pointlessly.

Too much build up without a real payoff

Bad writing.

Can we stop having these threads now?

>Dragon bones under NYC are somehow keeping the city from crumbling to the ground

Ok.

It's a big dragon.

for you

>tone undecided between satire and angst
>weak ass, boring looking antagonists
>no tension
>dumb ass plot
>dumb ass fight scenes
>lame ass protagonists

Only saw Defenders, Iron Fist and Jessica Johnes though, and they all were shitty, with the latter being by far the best due the consistency and not a horrible protagonist.

i stopped watching when matt went full retard because he cant forget elektra's pussy

please Weaver
just retire already
better being know from your golden time

They need to fight more realistic criminals. That's what was good about the first season of Daredevil and the Punisher.

It was iron fisting kino.

After Matt "died" one of his friends said something about how everyone would figure out his identity because Daredevil disappeared at the same time as him, but didn't he retire Daredevil long before that? The thing at the beginning of this show was that he quit and lied about not missing it. I can't remember him showing up in public again in costume, it was just the hand people who saw him

literally worse part of the show

kek, what memestar wrote it? this will have to go into the vault along with "he is quite the riddler"

stick was a dumb faggot. The hand did not act like they had wisdom of ages, I don't buy it that they lived for so long.
in a comic vers it is the right call. smarter move would have been to kill her and res her again

We're not so different, you and I.

The show is full of dumb moments like that
nah. it has not topped the
>melting dead bodies with acid is ok as long as you are doing it for new shoes and a sound system

The Hand fucking sucked

>african guy who supposedly can stop your heart gets beaten by Luke Cage off screen
>japanese guy who trained Nobu (who destroyed Daredevil and was a great fighter) can't take Matt on by himself and gets wrecked every fight
>claims of having an army are pointless since they never reach DD season 2 ninja levels
>Sigourney Weavers character sucks and her "dying" subplot was also pointless

Are you retarded or have shitty memories? They were making a point of Daredevil not being seen at all during the action so the public wouldn't know he was ever active again

>melting dead bodies with acid is ok as long as you are black
Ftfy. Stay woke nigga.

>Danny tells her they're
>"Yeah, you're right, but I don't care"
She was just messing with him

I think the Iron Fist door was keeping NYC from crumbling, and that might be intentional by whatever old Iron Fist/leaders of CoonLoo.

>If you kill him you'll be like him
>BLAM*...see, I'm still alive

I don't understand why she was not open about her dying subplot. If her team knew she was dying they would understand that she was invested most of all, they were already turning on her so it could not have hurt

>You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth and you never did anything to help anybody!
>ignoring the fact that he vanished in a plane crash more than a decade ago as a young child
>for some reason Danny decides to listen to Cage's retarded idea and goes to face the Hand's company as a business man
>at the same time Luke Cage is on his way to brazenly punch and threaten a bunch of stockholders because Tommy got popped

There were so many retarded choices.

+ no budget for anything other than the cast that was too huge and wasting money for Ripley to stand around and talk and do nothing else

Not enough Murdock.

needed more foggy and less of the architects family

Whats more wrinkled?

>Blouse or face?

>less of the architects family

This was such a boring subplot I know they needed JJ to be involved but why couldn't they do it better

I gave up on Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist because they were fucking boring. Turns out, a show that's 3/4 fucking boring is also pretty fucking boring.

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the opening was bit stupid.
>she does not give 2 shits until she gets a generic "stay away from the case" call.
Im not sure if that even fits her character but fine. I don't see the point of her going back to the family for the second or the 3rd time. could not actual investigation been involved instead of them finding a "clue" in the piano?

1) The first four episodes were pretty good. Great banter, plot, cliffhangers.
2) Iron First wasn't murdered in the first episode.
3) The last episode was total shit. I mean, TOTAL shit. The final battle started 20 minutes into the episode and lasted over half an hour. It was repetitive and fucktarded. The director of that ep did two of the laziest, slowest, most boring episodes of Doctor Who and we all should have seen this coming.

>Jessica Jones is boring
False, you're just bored unless you see something exploding. Some great character drama there.

>Iron First and Luke Care are boring
Correct.

>i, a white guy, have a firm grasp on how poor an impoverished black neighborhood is

Tell me more.

The first part of the plot was okay but it became progressively lazier as the season went on.

Plus the members of the hand were so uninteresting, I did not care for their presence nor their motivations.

They had good setup, and the writing of the previous shows really worked to make them a terrifying shadow organization.

The writing of Defenders was like, "What if they're five bickering old people in a room, and old people are pretty easy to kill, right? Pay me."

This. They were underwritten as fuck
(see )
... Bakuto was the bad guy in Iron Fist, and he was the only one who stood out because the actor played him as casually arrogant as fuck, as opposed to the other members who either didn't speak English, were terrible actors, or were Sigourney Weaver.

>>>Jessica Jones is boring

Jessica was a horrible, boring character to watch.

>implying blacks don't kill each other for a pair of 120 dollar Nike shoes

De gubbment gives them their food and shelter so all their money from crime can go to luxury

THAT'S ANOTHER THING--
That one dude who didn't speak English, but everyone else spoke English to him, even Madam Gao who obviously speaks English as a 2nd language.

They basically made him Ninja Chewbacca.

>the intense character drama of a woman who has been assaulted and had her mind controlled is utterly boring to me
The Michael Bay thread is that way

and all white people inherit massive wealth from their parents, which gives them free time to shoot up schools.

Glad we had this talk.

The Five Fingers of the Hand were a complete letdown. The conversation between Luke Cage and Danny Rand was complete bullshit. Only good thing was the Defenders' chemistry.

It was. Jessica was not an interesting woman at all in any way and actively tried to become as boring as possible.

nigger Im from the second world and even I know that needing money for nice shoes is not poverty and while I may feel empathy for poor people who have to steal to stay alive, it runs out when they start using acid on dead bodies and only need money because they want to get rich fast. even less fucks given since he saw how things ended for his sister and brother

Luke is retardedly over powered for a show about kind of superhuman ninjas.
Jessica was pure plot device, if she wasn't on screen you could guarantee she'd soon turn up to save the day.
Danny can't fight for shit.
Matt's always had poor judgement, at least that's still accurate

being "damaged" is not inherently interesting, she needed more

>MFW when Sigourney only spoke to him in Japanese 2 times and one of them was her saying "baka"
I love when the world feels like Im living in some bizarre reality

I watched a clip and Danny got his ass beat. LUL at least they got something realstic

Old chinese lady and a middle-aged cancer patient woman aren't good enemies for super heroes. Also the dragon bones under NYC was an awful plot point.

2 shit shows (Luke Cage + Ironfist)
+
2 alright shows (Daredevil + Jessica Jones)
=
A below average show

The defenders was never appealing to me as its the very opposite of what made DD and JJ stand out in the first place. Neither show is perfect but when they work they both brought something different to the table. Teaming them up to fight magic immortal armies of disposable ninjas is just too much like all the comic book films I've long since stopped watching. I may give season 3 of Daredevil a go if it gets back to street level crime fighting but other than that and the Punisher these netflix shows are over for me.

Her character was completely flat. She had only one tone the entire show and was a meme. Waste of Sigourney Weaver.

Thought you meant Jessica. LOL

not enough best girl

Jesus is that makeup or does Sigourney Weaver actually look like that now? I could hardly recognize her.

Half of the team is shit characters

>Matt Murdock
>I am driven to fight injustice because of a deep sense of catholic guilt and a desire to do the right thing in the eyes of God

>Danny Rand
>I am driven to fight injustice not only because an ancient organisation murdered all of my family and those who raised me, but also to fulfill my duty to an ancient prophecy

>Luke Cage
>I'm black! I fight fo' da community n shieeet.

>Jessica Jones
>I'm a woman!(that's literally all there is to her character)

Why is it impossible to write minority characters that have any level of complexity? What is it that makes white male character infinitely more interesting?

what kind of dumbass watches the worst of them and Jessica Jones which was merely okay, based on a few characters and performances alone. Just watch Daredevil already you faggot.

They weren't even big, the entire dragons rib cage was maybe 100 feet long, do you know how fucking big NYC is?

Never heard of it, but the title seems like capeshit so there is your answer.

It was 8 episodes.

>and your OTHER fist

Should have just had DD and Iron Fist take care of the Hand plot and then form the Defenders in another season with Kingpin as the villain (with access to the alien tech that can damage Luke)

This.

you forgot
>DD
has a drive to hurt people and this is the only way he can do it without feeling bad
>JJ
is a shit stain with a "heat of gold"

I was surprised to find out she is English and has an accent

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is it worth a watch?

I liked DD S1 and the non Hand parts of S2
I thought Luke Cage was decent until the first villain died
Didn't watch Jessica Jones and Iron Fist was an absolute shitshow and incredibly unlikeable

Are there any good PUNISH scenes? Literally the best part of Defenders shows and he isn't even one

if you didn't like the Hand plot from Iron Fist and season 2 of Daredevil, you won't like this. The story revolves almost entirely around the Hand plots from those seasons and Iron Fist and Daredevil are basically the most important characters in this, with Luke Cage and Jessica Jones just sort of along for the ride.

>Are there any good PUNISH scenes?
He isn't in it at all, but he's getting his own series that's releasing before the end of the year

Stick was the worst. More incompetent than Yoda. Is there anyone that the blind old man didn't betray?

>ywn BLEACH that cute asian girlwhile she's licking JJ's butthole while LC is BLACKING your little tight ass

When even defend life?

calm down incase, not everything in life has to be a porno

If you don't like the Hand, you're not going to like the Defenders because the whole season is about the Hand.

Even though it's only eight episodes, there's not enough there to recommend that you watch it. It never becomes Diamondback or Iron Fist bad but it also never rises above mediocrity.

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the writing is pretty dull and uninspired. the villains are just bad. Iron Fist is a fucking idiot (im danny rand ill destroy the hand and then maybe join a band). calling out white privelge, injecting sjw bullshit where it doesn't belong, i mean fuck this shit.

If the hand was after the black sky for so long, even waiting centuries for it that they would revive a black sky if it dies, why the fuck did they need elektra when they had the kid in daredevil?

What if the Hand was 5 women raping you?

Trish should have gone full Hellcat and teamed up with Colleen

>2 shit shows (Luke Cage
You can stop right there because the only think wrong with Luke Cage's show was it was 2 episodes too long.

I was pretty interested in it.

>less of the architects family
It was the only interesting part

Except Chewbacca didn't have subtitles, do you have trouble reading?

Watch 13 Reasons is you want to watch a boring female soap opera.

This
Also luke wasn't talking about white privilege (i thought he meant this too), he was talking about how rich danny was.

Not him but it was piss-poor delivery considering the current political climate. I realized immediately what they meant but it still left a bad taste in my mouth.

Then he need not have stated that danny is white or that his "victims" are poor black kids

Did they ever explain how Jones got superpowers?

her car accident?

I AM THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST

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what about the undying shlong

>hey you should be at the precinct
was cage autistic?

Kingpin snipes Rand from across the street with a rifle. Rand dies. That's why superheroes have secret identities.

>We're not so different You and I

when will she become Hellcat? Also when are we getting a Daughters of the Dragon show?

when it comes to superpowers, young people are as strong as the old. How many stories have you read with rooms full of 20/30 somethings who in the end accomplished no more than a old man could have done.

I AM THE IMMORTAL IRON FIST