>>86907283

Because there must always be people on the bottom.

State Welfare promotes generational poverty.

how is her teeth so white?

Doesn't those programs and welfare just breed more poverty?

Western "poverty" means you still have food, shelter, and clean water. If not having an xbox makes you mentally ill, I have no pity.

*in capitalism

>our society

I don't consider the poor to be part of society.

well if thats the case why not make the bottom a little bit nicer

Because subsidization of poverty only leads to more poverty

The only groups in America outside of the mentally retarded and mentally Ill that stay poor throughout their entire lives are those stuck on welfare.

shes young and doesnt eat so many sweets.

cause shes a kid are you really that retarded?

>poverty
>perfect teeth

yeaaaaaaaah

Niggers aren't very intelligent?

Got it. Nice thread.

By the way, mods. Good job. Next time I'll go with a roll-thread or shit cuntry general. Fags.

You're committing a category error. Societies don't have mental health, only people do.

I grew up poor and I have a nice and cushy 60K/year job, living on my own with tons of freedom and money for luxuries, and I have a healthy brain that likes to read and exercise.

This is just another false excuse for dumb shitskins.

It's near impossible to live off welfare, it is no picnic. You have to cook basically every meal from scratch all the while trying to look for a job.

That's an old conservative meme that simply isn't true

They intermingle with us and if one of them gets violent it affects the rest of our society. Everyone is connected.

the bottom has gotten nicer and nicer, but the poverty line keeps being bumped up, so there will always be people in "poverty" in the US

the thing is, poverty here is still pretty fucking nice

t. former poorfag

yes, they make it generational too. They're entirely dependent on government and breed further dependents. All welfare must be removed, the subhumans on it must die, and soon we might be able to even go back to being a stable society. Until then, it'll be a blackhole for our money.

You probably have some latent psychological issues that affect you even without you're realizing it. And there is such a thing as luck, not all people are capable to pull themselves up and out of poverty it's not just muh work ethic, it's a plethora of factors that intermingle to determine success.

if you say so user, if you say so

Welfare reform advocates were bigots: they focused on the abuses and not on those who were left out. The outrage of welfare wasn’t the rare abuses by the recipients of welfare; the outrage of welfare was that so many slipped through the cracks: we had homeless families and veterans and..the list goes on. Guess what? We still do!

The real outrage was that predatory housing providers and scammers who ran the system were fucking the welfare system out of billions, but that was never brought up by the bigots.

Abuses occur in all systems. Do you think the military, which has never passed an audit, is free of abuse? The military's programs over budgets, fraud, and waste that can actually be recorded dwarf any welfare fraud or abuse, including medicare fraud, but where is the outrage on the right about that?

Generational poverty is caused by the fact that capitalism doesn't work, because it is a scam. If it did, then their would be jobs.

Are you going to give welfare recipients free land to grow crops on? If not, then shut up with your bigotry.

>That's an old conservative meme that simply isn't true
IRS income data shows otherwise user

nigga you where never at the bottom, you migth have been close to the bottom in your country but world wide you where about as far from the bottom as you are from the top

that's what i'm saying, bro

poverty here is basically comparable to worldwide top 10% or some shit

The homeless are crazy vagrants and drug addicts. Nothing stops them from going to a shelter

Because the poor keep breeding like rats.

The only way to cure poverty is to instill poor people with responsibility and conservative values. Throwing money at them will just make it worse for everyone.

I would kill you to death, pepperbelly.

>capitalism doesn't work, because it is a scam. If it did, then their would be jobs
There are jobs but people aren't willing to do them or create their own job. What's stopping them from that?

because black people ruin it for the rest of us.

So you admit that conservatives values are the values of those who steal and exploit and trick and lie! Finally, a cuckserve who is honest.

in our countries or far off lands?

either way, it's theft to spend more of my money without my consent

I may consider charity, but enforced charity is theft

>implying
My girlfriend comes from a poor as fuck disfunctional family and was an honour student every fucking year in school and did well in university.
She's now doing good working.

...

What the fuck are you on about?

Slavery is not a job.

>How can Sup Forums be so against safety net programs and welfare
Because they just make the problem worse.

The paper has also not demonstrated causation. It could be (and is most likely) the case that poor people are poor as a result of their low abilities.

>What's stopping them from that?
Government largely
As one example in most states it takes a several thousand dollar class to legally be able to braid hair and the classes typically don't even teach hair braiding.

In NY it takes around 9 months a 3 grand to get a business licence for a T-shirt stand
Minimum wage laws also makes it so people with the lowest level of skill who would be able to find starting jobs at low wages until they've developed their skills to earn more remain unemployed.
Government has also made apprenticeships all but illegal in favor of people taking out government loans of tens of thousands of dollars to go to "school" which doesn't even teach them the skills they'd learn in a few month of an apprenticeship.

This is the face of government protectionism and leftist faggots have the guile to blame capitalism despite every capitalist thinker since Smith have opposed these systems for the very reasons we see today.

are you insane? that's not what he said. if you keep feeding poor people and letting them breed, there will then be more poor people to feed, who will also breed

more taxes will be required, and since poor people are generally low IQ, you also lower the average IQ of your(or their) country

Oh! I'm Sorry.

I didn't see your sign.

Poverty in USA is not even fucking bad

Poverty in USA is actually priviledged as fuck

the only real issue is the crime rate that is caused by the fucking idiots themselves

LOL
Who made you entitled to anything? If you want fun and high paying job go make yourself one.

very little processed sugar in her diet

>Willingly selling your labor is slavery
(You)

He just called working slavery yes he is insane

>How can Sup Forums be so against safety net programs and welfare when poverty literally damages our society's mental health?
Because unless you have a police state that enforces eugenics welfare also damages our society's health.

Pic extremely fucking related.

>Being poor makes people stupid
Are you that isn't backwards?

So why do you teach abstinence, and take away their Planned Parenthood.

Just die, conservatard!

I can't wait until Hillary sets up her FEMA camps for all you Trump voters.

>taking care of yourself
>no picnic
Stfu pussy. Get over it. Work. Make money. Sell drugs. Sell your boypucci. Sell your ugly sister. Do something you worthless sack of shit. Or kill yourself

You seem very confused.

In life. There is a food chain amongst men just as there is in nature. We are not exempt from nature user.

Wait, so being under constant stress, not being able to eat right, freezing in winters, is actually bad for mental health?

Who woulda thunk?

>waits for Sup Forums to figure out why average black IQ is so low.

B-b-but muh socioeconomics

Great now do you get my point? why not make the actual bottom a lil bit nicer

Oh rigth because this world is divided between hundreds of nations each with diffrent policies and GDP

It's a fucking model posing for the camera you daft cunts.

Welfare does not prevent poverty, it is a band-aid on the issue and not a very good one at that. It's main purpose is relief peoples guilt.

Welfare should be abolished and replaced with a work program designed to instill the values of hard work.

Do you honestly believe the things you're saying? Because that's how you end up as a failure. Saying that you can't make your own luck and overcoming odds.

Also don't project shit on me.

EXACTLY! Now we are on to something.

Who made you entitled and protected by a system that guarantees you your property at the expense of the society that protects it?

You fucktards all forget that there is no god, and when those at the bottom are no longer appeased, we will trash the entire system.

And why are you defending the rich, you moronic shill? They don't care about you either, you delusional retard. The only reason you are defending them is because you are too stupid to know you are being played, you ball licking slave.

Guess what? No excuses. This is why Stalin killed everyone. This is why Robespierre killed everyone.

No excuse for defending the system. The follower is as guilty as the leader.

Are you talking about outside the US?

You've really taken the bait user.

>huur hardwork is all it takes

Not everyone can make it to the top user. I come from wealth and realize this because I'm not some idiot who buys into talking points.

does that change the fact that kids have white teeth?

no it does not now shut the fuck up

Welfare as a safety net for your own people is fine, everything else has just allowed parasites to come live here, off us, for the rest of their fucking lives. They also pass on this attitude to their ugly children, ensuring Europe will only get worse in every way. International socialism is fucking cancer.

great deduction skills

Hard work is all it takes you stupid faggot.

You want something? You take it. That's how hard work works. You don't cry about it and say it needs to be given to you.

Welfare is an idicator that the system is not working.

You can't just move the goal posts. Either the society has a system that serves everyone, or it isn't a society.

In that case only a fool wouldn't steal and kill to get what they want. You have taken advantage of the hardwired niceties of human behavior for too long.

Population density

No amount of fuzzy numbers or pictures of "muh black chillin" biting on barb wire are going to change how poor whites still do not perform disproportionate levels of crime compared to Hispanics and nogs.

>Science is showing that poverty has severely long lasting negative impacts on the brain.
Hasn't Science, also, discovered that the holocaust was so bad it literally transferred trauma genetically?

Thanks

I'm hungover

Anyway, don't we already give out a shit ton of foreign aid? Even if we didn't, why is it always our fucking problem?

>Just die, conservatard!
>
>I can't wait until Hillary sets up her FEMA camps for all you Trump voters.
trying to hard

2/10

>If it did, then their would be jobs.

There are jobs.

Poverty is simply a choice in first world countries, and choices subsidized by the state at that. You get more of what you pay for.

>nigger density
FTFY

Welfare doesn't need to be replaced with anything just as a house fire when extinguished isn't replaced with anything
Spewing shit tier hatred and calls to mass slaughter is beyond childish you nigger faggot
>Huuurrr we'll burn it all down if you don't pay for us who don't want to better ourselves
The single greatest force in improving the human condition is lassiez faire capitalism with a limited in role government this is empirically shown throughout history and around the world.

> know two folks on wellfare and was on food stamps before required to work

I may only have a walmart job but dam welfare does not work. It only makes people lazy because of free money and gib me dat.

>america
>clean water

You worry about an alleged claim while a proven fact of mental illness and it's destructive presence on society called LGBT runs rampant destroying successful societies and cultures that got us this far?

How about the motherfuckers try working and getting a goddamn job. Mexicans do and they do it hard enough to not only live here but send money back to Mexico also.

Go back to praising your sweet innocent angel Hillary that dindu nothing ever and has been a victim of a horrible conspiracy to get her since the day she was born through an unfortunate lifetime of mysterious coincidences.

Whites in poverty i care about, minorities can fuck off and die.

Keep on believing snow flake. If capitalism is dependent on all those characteristics you say, and it is not working, then you agree that it is not working, right?

Do you see the philisophical circular reasoning?
IF it worked, it would work. If it doesn't, then it doesn't.
If it only works for you, but doesn't work for others, then why would they support it? If they don't support it, then it won't work for you either.

Don't let the story be more real than the story it is supposed to tell.

That is called insanity.

Welfare doesn't end poverty. It just ensures that people have a place to stay and food to eat. Poverty =\= Despair: humans weren't made it have money; it only became part of our lives after Moloch forged the first shekel. As long as people stay healthy, poverty shouldn't have a lasting effect on the brain. They probably have those symptoms because of lead poisoning or poor nutrition.

That's complete bullshit. I've seen areas of the US not far from where I live (I'm middle class) where people don't have running water, electricity, or adequate healthcare. There are many, many other areas where people have some of these utilities and resources but access and quality are unreliable.

>60k
>cushy
MWF, where do you live Wyoming?

>implying welfare makes people less poor

I make less than $10k a year and live comfy.

Name them

>there are jobs where jobs are needed
>people can just pull up muh bootstraps and make a job
>people actually believe this

Poverty is the only thing that promotes poverty. The assumption behind those who hate welfare is that poor people should just die.

That allows the poor to say that the rich should just die.

They made their bed; let's see if they have the balls to lie in it.

You might be psychotic with a pinch of delusions of grandeur. I'd go check that out if I were you. Only thing you'll be burning down is your brains.

its not our problem

its the entire worlds problem

wouldent be no need for foregin aid if there was nothing foreign

White suicide rates are as high as black homicide rates. One turns their anger inwards. The other outwards.

nice strawman

Have you been to the projects? Everyone has a minimum of 3 kids and nobody gets out.

Hedgehog in the fog...yay!

Always brings out the kid in me :)

I agree with you. Welfare is cancer.

>quoting the Daily Fail but not admitting it

>appeal to nature
wew

I'm only 26 and I live on my own so I barely have any bills. It's very cushy for me because I don't live extravagantly and save lots of money. I don't have a car either so I don't have to keep making payments on it. Only thing I pay for is rent, food, and utility bills.

I have plenty of money on a monthly basis to go out with friends every weekend, buy video games and books I like, go out to the movies, buy a prostitute or two, and go out for fancy dinners.

There's literally nothing I want to do right now that I can't do (other than living on Mars).

you don't want rightwingers to stand out as only losers do you

>waaah waahhh why can he haz moneyz and I dontz
>I'll take your moneyz and kill you
>people actually think like this

Poverty in America is not real poverty. It has no effect on people's brains unless they let it have an effect with fast food and crack.

>le nigger meme
You didn't refute his argument.

>damages our society's mental health
So does obesity and nobody wants to eradicate that. Let the little vishnu-nigger die.

The poorest areas I've personally seen were in Appalachia, rural Virginia, and rural parts of the Southwest. Some inner city areas are also rather bad though.