Can anyone give me hard evidence that IQ is mostly inheritable and that the IQ eventually returns to the mean of the racial group?
Race and IQ
Dominic James
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Luis Jackson
Not what I asked for dumb fuck.
The motivation behind the question is to find out if you take a black with an IQ of say 105 and mix them with a white with a similar IQ, will the child still likely end up in between the black and white IQ average.
Thanks for answering a question I didn't ask though. The snarky way you did it really highlights how intelligent you are.
John Powell
America in a nut-shell. Whites build, blacks destroy. Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, Ferguson, Atlanta, Compton, Chicago. Wherever they are in masses, violence and poverty.
Juan Allen
Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study
Eli Scott
regression to the mean describes a (mathematical) phenomenon observed in all normally distributed systems. You don't need any more evidence of it than you would, say, in demonstrating regression to the mean of height.
Noah Jones
Are black girls patrician?
James Bennett
It doesn't work that way, retard. There is something called "Regression toward the mean of the IQ" which means that even if a couple of niggers with ~150 IQ breed, their offspring's IQ will tend to nigger average (well below 100).
Dominic Cox
>mostly inheritable
*heritable
Daniel Reyes
You could've just said "no I don't have that information"
Except we don't know to what extent genetics correlate with IQ. It's obviously very flexible based on the studies I've seen. I don't doubt genetics play a role but how much of a role do they play? I would speculate that height is effected more by genetics than IQ because economic situation/environment consistently effect IQ averages while they don't effect height.
Zachary Davis
Would you, Sup Forums?
John Harris
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Adam Perez
>we don't know to what extent genetics correlate with IQ
we do
Oliver Brooks
Are black girls patrician?
Parker Richardson
I love this board
Kevin Robinson
>they don't effect height.
You are way too ignorant to be trying to have this debate, newfriend.
Benjamin Gutierrez
we also have an idea to what extent violence and impulsiveness correlate with race
Henry Martinez
>Returns to the mean
That seems wrong.
If you take a high I.Q. negro and mate it with a high I.Q. cracker and so on and so on, surely it's not just going to suddenly revert to a low I.Q. mulatto without there being something defective occurring?
Adam Peterson
related
William Davis
If you have two whites with an I.Q. of 150, does that mean their offspring will taper down towards 100?
James Long
Black guy with 105 IQ? Where did you find one of those?
William Myers
Yes
Christian Taylor
yes and no. hybrid subspecies have a tendency to revert to one of the two genomes preceding hybridization. The more you mate a mulatto with blacks, the closer to the black average successive generations will move until all admixture is lost. Is happens fairly quickly, something like within 5 generations. It takes thousands and thousands of years for a subspecies genome to stabilize, so you'd need to force mullatoes to mix in isolation for several millenia. Otherwise they just becomes blacks and whites again.
Mason Bennett
>Can someone prove this two things separately so I don't to try to prove the main argument
You'd have to prove that races have different genetics for intelligence
Ryder Lee
I would recommend the book "The Blank Slate"
We have a huge amount of data on the heritability of many human personality traits, including intelligence. The appearance that we don't is really one big "blind eye" that academics have turned on the topic. People who didn't play along were removed from academics a long time ago or shamed into retirement for even speaking about it.
Aiden Scott
Stay butthurt, you dumb brown faggot.
Xavier Lopez
Hunter Wilson
That's correct.
Logan Taylor
>Spain
Levi Kelly
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Nice dump with the infographs as well. All saved.
Eat shit, faggot.
Camden Harris
What do I do if I have a friend that occasionally hangs out with a brown person?
Asher Barnes
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Grayson Morales
>muh environmental factors
as if that was a good influence, who seems to fall for these environmental factors more?
Luis Davis
Suck my dick, you fascist scum.
Benjamin Collins
who cares? why do you need to do anything about people hanging out?
Brayden Hall
But.. ASPM and MCHP1 were found to not have anything to do with IQ. the Mekel-Borbov et al and Deserivieres et al, even say so
None of those others have any genes linked with intelligence
Xavier Martinez
Nothing wrong with fascism, son.
wrong, try again.
Brody Jones
there was a youtube video from a show from BBC in Britain where they interviewed social workers who tried to get kids adopted. the social workers would document how the child grew as part of their job, andd they found that even if a black child was raised by a rich white family, the black child still fell behind and was retarded. this is assuming the child was adopted when they were an infant. i think.
Ian Myers
The Ctrl-Left is here I see.
Josiah Nguyen
Meh, just kind of upsets me you know? I thought I had a good White community of friends thing going on and this mix-raced retard ruined it all.
Carter Parker
Environmental factors aren't irrelevant as evidenced by the very information posted ITT.
The answer is almost always Nature and nurture. Just different balances depending on what's being discussed.
Juan Garcia
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Jack Morgan
Fag alert
Landon Mitchell
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Austin Gomez
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Watch this. It's in the second part iirc.
It covers many other SJW-tier shit too. It's a documentary from Norway, made by a comedian, so it's not that boring too.
Even it's name is Hjernevask (Brainwash).
Connor Ward
That's a cute nigger sow. Would breed.
Brandon Torres
there are a lot of really interesting things that are inheritable, for example musical tastes
John Richardson
this makes me hungry for fish
Cameron Sanchez
I'm not talking about thousands and thousands of years of evolving separately. I'm talking about an individual being raised properly or improperly in a harsh or stable environment.
An individuals IQ can clearly be very effected by environment while height isn't.(unless you locked them in the dark and fed them nothing but shit of course)
Luke Morales
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Levi Thompson
I don't know much about this subject but I ask anyone who is more informed, if, for example, someone like me who is mestizo had above average IQ does that mean I took more towards my European genes as opposed to my injun side?
pls respond
Carson Butler
its either 60/40 or 40/60. those are the numbers you hear most often when discussing nature vs nurture.
Austin Murphy
>if you mix two nogs with genetically high iqs you get a nog with low iq because genetics
>if you mix a nog and a white you get the average of the two because genetics
Yep, seems right.
Jaxson Robinson
>claims "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER LINKING X AND Y"
>cherry-picks three papers that say something far less categorical
Classic Sup Forums shitposting. If you want to have a serious discussion, you can list 3 papers that confirm a link alongside the three you claim portray "NO LINKS WHATSOEVER", which is obviously exaggeration, because no nupol fag can seem to have a discussion without disingenuous exaggerations framing the topic from start to finish. That's my price, post three for and against the point, then we'll have a serious discussion. Otherwise, go fuck yourself your dragon dildo collection you furfag degenerate.
Samuel Morales
Přemo, di spát simtě
Xavier Miller
Like I said, even the papers linked int he picture say that ASPM and MCPH1 have nothing to do with IQ
What's "classic Sup Forums" is that some idiot read those papers and thought they supporter their positions, but they have poor reading skills.
Camden Walker
>obvious contact lenses with a black halo
why do blacks like to use filters in snapchat and in photos that make them seem to have blue or white eyes? Why is it fashionable for blacks to have aryan features?
Thomas White
I have a notepad pasta for this shit, since it comes up 24/7.
Why race matters?
Race matters because of differences, developed trough evolution. Cant believe in evolution and equality.
You see, Europeans had this thing called Ice Age, which shaped them vastly differently than peoples who did not have it.
Europeans (whites) had to develop better snares, shelters, better clothing, better tools, stupid or aggressive ones died out, leaving only more intelligent ones alive.
This is why all the modern science and medicine and culture is generally made by whites. This difference created in the Ice Age, is extremely important. If you have the traits of the people who survived it, it is in your great self interest to preserve them!
Ryan Gutierrez
> You see, Europeans had this thing called Ice Age, which shaped them vastly differently than peoples who did not have it.
Meanwhile, Jews and Igbos...
Logan Jenkins
You posted 3, so I'll post 30. Get fucked nigger, there are more than three papers confirming my assertion and you know it. If you can't produce them when given a fair chance, you can't argue in good faith. Here they are. Go eat a dildo faggot.
>Haplogroups as markers for genetic intelligence/cognitive ability
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>Negroids of different lineage to Caucasians, haplogroups A&B
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>Intelligence is largely heritable
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>CNTNAP2 and MCPH1 genes.
>The rs10784502 (T allele) variant of the CNTNAP2 gene associated with increased cranial volume has a greater frequency in
>East-Asian and Indo-European populations, and less in most African populations:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>The Haplogroup D allele of MCPH1 gene is unique to Eurasian populations. Sub-Saharan Africans lack this allele:
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>The 15 point IQ difference between blacks and whites is in part due to genetics
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Ethan Morris
S-Sugoi..
Juan Brown
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One of a myriad of studies.
Also, IIRC, gene mapping is now producing some, albeit few, genetic markers that are linked to intelligence. It will take awhile to map out the myriad of individual and gene clusters that are part of an amalgam which in tandem with environment creates varying levels of intelligence, but when it happens there will be a great shitstorm as blacks will invariably not have as many specific markers of intelligence.
Jeremiah Richardson
>jews
All ashkenazi or european.
>eskimos
ice age never stopped over there lmao, they still live from fishing in the frozen tundras, they never had to develop Rome or Constantinople or a space race to survive
Samuel Nelson
M8 you have to think in the future if everyone racemix we will have to restart our civilization AGAIN, i mean... we are going to face another non man-made climate change "soon" and a famine in 2050 (i`m not suposed to talk about this but maybe you know about it) and in 500 years the cycle will repeat come on just think
Dylan Johnson
>If I post tons of random papers, that mean's I'm right
None of these say ASPM or MCHP1 have anything to do with IQ, which was the original point.
This is all non sequitur stuff.
Isaac Hernandez
>Autist double posts
kek
Samuel Nelson
>eskimos
Please re-read my post. Igbos are not eskimos.
>All ashkenazi or european.
Which explains why the IQ gap between themselves and whites is as significant as the IQ gap between American whites and American blacks.
Do they come from the north pole?
Levi Bell
this doesn't explain Jews and chinks who have higher IQ than whites. these theories have so many fucking holes that don't make sense it's no wonder people just scrap it. it also doesn't take into account that if you haven't been living under a rock for the last couple centuries the west is falling apart and China and Russia are going to take its place as world super powers. where the fuck does your theory fall into that? how are desert dweller swindlers more intelligent without an ice age? Eastern gooks?? fucking fuck
Eli Perez
>if everyone racemix
That'll never happen. People who race mix are always outliers. No matter how enriched a nation is. The only way to displace a demographic is with mass migration or mass slaughter.
Xavier Ortiz
why is the Ashkenazi/turk theory perpetuated mostly by Jews? and how the fuck are turks European?
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Here's a good video on it, it was from a shortlived series in Norway called Brainwash. He discusses the idea with people who are experts in the various related fields, as well as dipshit sociologist softscience retards that get BTFO.
The other episodes of the series covering other topics are on the same channel and are quite good too. Unfortunately the kikes shut it down.
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Jayden Cox
the consensus of modern psychometrics suggest is that
around 60-80% of intellectual cognition is genetic, however the environment can play a big role in developing intelligence.
The studies that are often cited as lil niglets being raised by whites on average still have lower IQs than white childrem , how ever they also show that those lil niglets who were raised by white middle-high class parents do show a statistically significant difference between those raised in black families
(btw in IQ statistically significant increase is 3 or more points, since most peoples IQ don't increase taht much as they get older)>
SO to conclude, lil niglets are not as smart as whites, but through environment they can be nurtured to be smarter than niglets who are not raised in a good environment.
The evidence is in many of the studies already cited in this thread. Too lazy to link the specific ones
Mason Taylor
ashkenazi jews lived in europe for 1000 years and fucked off to israel after holohoax
>have internet
>google image 'ice age glaciations'
>see east asians are on the ice
>?????
I dont fucking know man. It's the best I got. What's your theory?
Cameron Morgan
>None of these say ASPM or MCHP1 have anything to do with IQ
THey all suport that notion. None of the ones you posted said anything remotely like "ASPM and MCHP1 have nothing whatsoever to do with IQ". I guess everyone here will just have to read them for themselves and make a determination. You're clearly here to lie and bait.
just here to lie and bait. I detect a nose.
>the IQ gap between themselves and whites is as significant as the IQ gap between American whites and American blacks
that's also a myth:
>Richard Lynn in his paper "The Intelligence of American Jews" [13] has given a downgrading of the Jewish intelligence IQ score. He notes that earlier studies such as the Backman 1970 study [14] were based on small samples: the number of Jewish boys was only 65! Other studies use similar small samples and have not been drawn to be nationally representative. One further study by Backman in 1972 which Lynn considers representative had sample sizes of 1236 Jews, 1051 White Gentiles, 488 Blacks and 150 Orientals. IQs for six factors were calculated and the Jews scored: verbal comprehension factor 107-8, English language 99.5, mathematics 109.7, visual reasoning 91.3, perceptual speed and accuracy 102.2 and memory 95.1. Lynn feels that the "Differences in the IQs for the various abilities are so great as to raise doubts about the results," and he says that the verbal IQ of 107.8 is at the lower end of estimates of Jewish verbal ability - even though these other estimates are non-representative and therefore technically flawed. [15] It is worth noting that in IQ studies conducted earlier in the century Ashkenazi Jews did worse than Nordic ethnic groups such as the Scots.
Alexander Diaz
Native americans (whole continent we are basically the same) with a delay of 15 to 20000 years managed to build more than 8 civilizations, egyptians who were really close to black cultures built one of the greatest empires.
Blacks, well.... they didn`t, their time is now because we keep evolving but they do nothing (Haiti, S.Africa, Brazil, etc)
Eskimo limitation: worst environment
Arabs: the religion
China: The british and the opium but at least they are recovering
Liam Sullivan
they were also subjected to totally different environment than most Europeans and I meant that there's another genetic study that shows they're almost generically identical to Arabs so they're sand niggers. and all the indigenous tribes of the America had to come through Asia during the ice age you nigger. this doesn't explain shit. I don't have a theory cus I don't know. this shit doesn't make sense tho
Evan King
Israel includes Arabs and ethnically mixed Sephards, which are known to have comparatively lower IQs.
Alexander Peterson
Ashkenazi are around half European heritage. They've also had a unintentional eugenics program applied to them by European society at large for the past 2000 years, regardless of the genetic origins.
>3 points having any significant impact in real ability
kek
Grayson Robinson
>The motivation behind the question is to find out if you take a black with an IQ of say 105 and mix them with a white with a similar IQ, will the child still likely end up in between the black and white IQ average.
you are seriously mentally retarded.
if you take two 105 iq parents you will probably get a 105 iq child regardless of their skin color.
that being said most blacks are nowhere near 105 iq so this is already unlikely to happen.
Carson Gutierrez
listen, this theory, while not 100% correct, has a low margin of error, explains stuff good enough, says euros are better than everyone which is true and all that matters, and that's about it
till someone publish an actual comprehensive proven theory, this is the best thing I've got
and if we did policies based on it, we'd have a higher quality of life than current multiculti welfare state
Nathan Brown
>regardless of their skin color
Hello plebbit
John Davis
Sup Forums says race determines IQ until they look at Jews vs whites
Isaiah Butler
No one says race determines IQ unless they're a mouth breathing retard like you that can't understand simple concepts. Genes determine IQ and race.
Aiden Morgan
Nicholas Howard
And the USA has 44 million niggers and many more "hispanics" including up to 30 million illegal spics more than the entire population of jewsrael. Whats your point?
Andrew Morgan
Yes but it would be higher than two people with an IQ of 110 or 125.
As long as there isn't much of a disparity between both people the offspring will generally be smarter due to the Flynn effect.
Grayson Wright
>prove blacks have different iqs based on their race you racist bigots
>what do you mean iq doesn't matter based on race >:c
SLIDE THREAD
Joseph Baker
It works the same way everything else works.
>grandmother has blue eyes
>mom has green
>dad and grandparents on dads side has green eye.
>i get blue eyes
How is it possible that a person with brown eyes and green eyes produced someone with blue eyes?
Jack Barnes
im not trying to be contrarian to be a dick, I sincerely just think it's probably establishment pseudoscience/propagada. even the way you describe it raises a million red flags saying this isn't honest science
Dylan Brooks
you always post this shit wtf kek
Jordan Lopez
Blue eyes are a recessive allele you dumb fuck
Just because both of your parents don't have blue eyes doesn't mean one or both of them aren't carrying the gene for blue eyes.
Jack Allen
genes=race=IQ
Mason Miller
I didn't call anyone "racist bigots" you moron. I was looking for information and got it and then I called out the plebbit fag for implying that race is just skin color.
Benjamin Thomas
>And the USA has 44 million niggers and many more "hispanics" including up to 30 million illegal spics more than the entire population of jewsrael. Whats your point?
America has 3+ times more illegals then the population of my entire country.
I cant imagine the cost of these people and the chaos they are causing across the country.
Logan Howard
the same way just because one nigger is smart doesn't mean his child is going to be.
Or am I wrong?
Ethan James
You had I think a 12.5% chance of getting them.
Chase White
this is true, those brown jews fuck it up for israel
then what about italy?
Bentley Robinson
That's not how it works either.If both parent's genes that resulted in those high IQs were dominant and the same (or compatible if you will), the child's IQ would be similar or higher.
Yeah but he said
>Race determines IQ
Race doesn't DETERMINE IQ. Genes determeine race and IQ.