How did Spain go from being the most powerful country in the world to an irrelevant nothing country?

How did Spain go from being the most powerful country in the world to an irrelevant nothing country?

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Same happened to England, same will happen to you sooner or later.

they dumb

England is still culturally relevant

is that bad
you can have a satisfying life even if your country isn't waging war left and right

Economically too.

We became a French puppet state. That was the start of our downfall.

Only because of America and the English language. If they didn't exist, we'd be as irrelevant as Spain, Portugal, France and Holland. Now watch the butthurt responses I get from my triggered countrymen.

This, American English>>>Britcuckistani English

you are also a cuck literally not even 20% of Americans have Anglo ancestors yet you speak the language too

The majority of white Americans have English ancestry. The U.S census only let's you identify with one ancestry though, so most just pick German or Irish.

I didn't say it was bad, just that it was true. You look at Britain, France, and Germany and see that they're all still relevant second rate powers. You look at Spain, Portugal, Holland, and Austria and see countries as important as Poland or Mexico.

industrialized incredibly late, shit industry, basically same reasons as italy. shitty colonial legacy, ruined the Americas with niggers.

Spain is still cool though.

implying anglo-saxons and germans are different genetically

Lurking cause it doesn't make sense

not as much as it was in 1900, and the trend will continue.

empires fall, it's what they do.

>There was a time where the Ottomans were the most powerful nation
I want Ottomans back

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They weren't powerful like modern countries are powerful. They were powerful in their immediate area. They could never have exerted power outside of the Middle-East and Eastern Europe.

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They never were. Spain was more powerful at the Ottoman's height.

What...? Can you explain please

t. Otto von Bismarck

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You forgot "for now", you fags live too much in the present.
Empires have lasted for a thousand years but still fell, power shifts all the time, the US is already losing influence for example and it's relevant for what, 200 years?

I'll do it for him.
Louis XIV made his grandson the king of Spain, as such our two dynasties became closely entangled and Spain followed us in everything until the Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars.

where in his post did he say america is perfect and never going to fall. you do realize most americans on Sup Forums fucking hate it here, right?

I see, I thought he was talking about more recent history

let me put it this way

who do you think wins
the biggest empire on Earth
or
the concept of inflation

Still the first bourbons were the best kings Spain had since the catholic kings, sadly all went to the shit thanks to Napoleon.

I was using the defacto leader of the world right now as an example faggot, chill

you're the one who sperged out for no reason lol

The USA is too big to be irrelevant. Maybe one day it'll splinter and disappear, but as long as it exists in its current form, it'll never become an irrelevant nothing country. It'll always be at least a second rate power unless it breaks apart.

The USA is smaller than the British, Spanish, Roman and Mongol empires at their peaks, and they all fell.

heh

We spent the 19th century killing each other instead of industrialising.
This is still one of the best places to live in the world, though. Certainly, infinitely better than in our imperial days.

It's true Britain often piggybacks on America, though we're allowed to because they were a colony and we set them up. Britain often does punch well above its weight and betters America on many occasions too.

Yeah. One day the USA will splinter and no longer exist. As long as it continues to exist, it cannot become irrelevant. Past a certain size, a country simply cannot be unimportant.

Is Brazil more important than Spain?

the US wont splinter, our power has never come from our land. It's been from having shit tons of bases over seas and power projection. The US is a big country but its almost entirely contiguous and its not like the roman empire where it takes half a year to get from one end of it to the other. All that has to happen is the world has to collectively say "fuck off" and take away our bases.

Living in Spain was for low test and the minority of landed nobility, new world is where life was at, have harem of dozens odlf eomen who cook clean, build cities, roads, ships, sewers, irrigation, farms, universities, religious buildings and eat thousands of calories of potatoes, tomatoes, corn etc... While Peninsular plebs ate a few calories of wheat.

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The power of the U.S comes from the economy and from the large population that largely believes in the U.S system. The bases world wide are a symptom of that

Spain had awful leaders throughout most of its history. The only good leaders to come out of Spain were the roman emperors Trajano and Adriano

What is Spain's current overseas territories situation like.

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Absolutely. Brazil is a major regional power. It may not be a major world power, but it's not irrelevant and it's in a lot of major economic organizations.

The jews, clearly.

Isabella and Ferdinand?

w-we have the canary isles

and based Alfonso X of Castile and Jaime I of Aragon

Here's a world overseas territories map. Spain has nothing except the Canary Islands.

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Beautiful islands they are too.

We have a few islands in the north of Africa.

where are Canary islands there?

Ceuta, Melilla, 5 tiny islands and Canary islands in North Africa.
Some islands in the Pacific nobody cares about.

The only reason Brazil has more GDP than Spain is because it has four times its population.
It's poor as shit.

are canary islanders considered ethnically spanish?

We basically consider them africans and laugh at their accent. But they're kinda cute and not black so they're alright.

Stop now.

>The only reason Brazil has more GDP than Spain is because it has four times its population.
You're correct, but that's the point. Simply having that huge a population makes Brazil important by default, no matter how shitty life is there or how incompetent their leaders are.

Spain is a better run country than Brazil, but just having a huge population puts Brazil in like the top thirty most important countries.

Not really, the US can easily fracture if people have regional identities just like any other state like yugoslavia or austro hungary.

If people start having independence movements for liberty of Texas and saying they ate Texans or New Yorkers as New yorkers then over time they will seperate, and the US states will compete with one another not bothering the world.

They stored all their gold in Italian banks

it's my first post in the thread

They're spaniards, we replaced the natives with them. They have darker skin because of the place where the islands are and they have a different accent because reasons.

i'v read that surviving guanches mixed with the spanish settlers.

Every state with regional identities has fractured in history the US union is barely 200 years old.

US is going to have to use the nuclear option of eradixation of regionalities like France.

20% at biggest of african ancestry (dna wise)
The rest is a mix of portuguese, frenchs and spaniards, but mostly andalusians
consider it as whatever you want

we killed every native in those islands

US power projection, economic strength, political influence and cultural notoriety have got one common source: dollarisation of the oil trade. Everybody needs oil, which is bought and sold in US dollars, so everyone needs US dollars. Only the FED can issue US dollars, and only the American Congress has the power to control the creation of US dollars. The USA doesn't joke about the US dollar; as long as there is any country leader serious enough about de-dollarising oil trade, like Saddam or Gaddafi, he is replaced violently. In my opinion neither Islam nor Russian imperialism will trigger WW3; if there is one thing that can drive the USA to chimp out worldwide, it's if China pushes the Petroyuan seriously. Because a de-dollarised oil trade would mean a de-dollarised world and a sharp decrease of American power.

Will never happen. The closest thing is Mexico annexing territory thanks to La Raza. The regional differences are not even a 1/10 of a percent as bad as as the fucking balkans dude. AHE was literally one of the most dysfunctional political and social systems ever devised. They literally had two parliaments that were passing laws against the other, among a whole host of other whacky shit. Its really comical to read about

They were always irrelevant, Colonization put them in the spotlight for a bit then they went back to being irrelevant.

muh petro dollar is literally just some convoluted bullshit AIPAC made up to

Very few did, most of "guaches" were killed or enslaved
In 99% of the cases, the males were killed, and women used a breeders, kinda like in latin america
But there was a huge resettlement of peninsulares in the Canary Islands

As soon as China does that, they destroy their country

The tercios dominated Europe for a long time user.

None is ethnically spanish down el despeñaperros.

Hungary had control over it's own domestic affairs.

That happened during your colonization period didn't

History pro.

>despeñaperros
what does this word mean?

>Some islands in the Pacific nobody cares about.

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The civil war?
Remember?
The south is very culturally distinct from the north
Russia just needs to fund Californian nationalists, Texan nationalists etc...
Tge west is extremely seperated from the administrative center of washington dc

>because reasons.
because being isolated from the rest of the world

haha this is what mudslimes actually believe

It is a place, the place that splits the humans being from the savages.

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Why does Spain keep those tiny uninhabited islands off Morocco?

Because we can

seconded

How do Spanish people in the Mainland feel about Ceuta and Melilla? Do they hate them cause immigrants get through there into Europe and for being almost majority Muslim?

in South america,the best looking girls have like 70% Spanish ancestry or so,

prove me wrong anons.

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But do they serve any purpose

They make moroccans mad.

USSR was huge too

Always a good cause. Keep up the good work

Yes (piss off moroccans)

Nafri butthurt.

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>How do Spanish people in the Mainland feel about Ceuta and Melilla?
do you like illegal inmigration from Mexico? it's the same.

Even at their maximum extend the Spanish Empire wasn't that relevant, the Tokugawa Shogunate and the Ottoman Empire had more people and total GDP.

Imagine you had two cities in Mexico that have been yours way before Mexico itself existed, but they say is theirs. And the 80% of the city is mexican and live of the other american 20%

Dumb ass moro, Ibero American Empire was the largest country and economy in the world at the time.

bcs we still have in the blood the 'remove sandniggers' gene, so fuck them.

Will you move to Spain already