Which ideology won WW2:

Which ideology won WW2:

Communism or Nationalism?

I know America won the war but is America definitively Nationalist or Communist?

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communism

the autism of americans I swear

If we took every American and forced them to vote for either communist ideology or nationalist ideology
which ideology would win???

or have more votes

america isn't really either
but for the "ideology that won WWII" I'd say socialist dictatorships won
half of europe was basically under control of the soviet union and the ideology spread all over the fucking place

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what is America then?

It's one thing to compare communism with capitalism. It's another to compare internationalism with nationalism. But don't compare communism with nationalism because that doesn't make sense. Capitalism is internationalist but that doesn't make it communist. Ultimately capitalism and internationalism won but with the caveat that the United States of America would lead the new world order.

>he thinks WW2 was a videogame

cute

America is controlled by Jews and protects zionist interests

Rasheed my son

a republic (more of an oligarchy, really) with neoliberal and neoconservative values?

how do i become a member of the elite oligarchy? and if i can't, how do we put more power into the hands of the republic and stomp out the oligarchy?

In both Europe and Asia. Thanks a lot Axis, the "Jewish" interwar system had them under control but you had to go ruin everything

are you extremely wealthy or have ties to politicians or are a politician yourself?
if not you're not going to be an oligarch

no i am just average

okay you're not going to be an oligarch then

Is that even a question?

Communism in the 20th century failed because it took a nationalist bent. Capitalism has taken it's place as an internationalist ideology in the meantime (as Marx predicted). Socialism will eclipse it once it regains its internationalist character and the abuses of capitalism become increasingly unpalatable. Believe it or not Trump supporters are some of the first to follow this line of reasoning but are crippled by nationalist whinging. From there the transition into communism can begin.

Probably the stupidest post today. And there were cuckposters

Accelerationism is a meme. Flooring it to late capitalism will get you to late capitalism. You won't magically do a 180 to socialism by going straight the other direction.

>doubting the dialectic
Get a load of this bourgeois.

During World War II, Hitler tried to destroy the Soviets.
But Japan signed a non-aggression treaty with the Soviet Union and America fought with Germany with the Soviet Union
As a result, Communism won.

>Which ideology won WW2:
You know that after WW2 2/3 of the world population was living in Socialist countries?

Why did you let him convince you to abandon the Hokushinron?

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Liberalism.

America isn't nationalist since any ethnic group can be an American. Both the Nazis and the Soviets, however, were socialist systems. Practically they were were both commies that had a fight about whether it should be a nationalistic socialism or a Russian imperial socialism.

Capitalism and socialism both won, they both divided the world.
Nationalism definitely lost because of fascism.
They say nobody wins in war but fuck me America won pretty much all of its wealth and position is from the insane amount of money from selling shit in WW2 and the decades of almost having a monopoly on manufacturing.

>America isn't nationalist since any ethnic group can be an American

Nationalism is not necessarily tied to ethnicity.

GDP won WW2, only ideology that prevailed was communism.

When Germany entered the Soviet Union, "北進論(Hokushin-ron - Northern Expansion Doctrine)" became mainstream.
But then Japan has run out of oil.
North Karafuto had crude oil.
However, that was not enough for Japan.
Japan needed the resources of South Asia.

Really the plan was abandoned after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Total failure of the Axis to coordinate on its primary objectives; if Japanese diplomats had recognized Hitler's intentions for what they really were, made peace with Jiang in 1941, and attacked the USSR, maybe the inevitable collapse of the Axis would at least have been a victory for liberalism instead of communism

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