Holocaust denial

How much of Holocaust do you deny?

1. 6 million is too high a number. Fewer people died.
2. There were no gas chambers.
3. Gas chambers were built but not used.
4. Gas chambers were only at test stages. Only a small fraction of the dead died in gas chambers.
5. Most Jews died from food shortage resulting from Allies blockade.
6. Most Jews died from hardship from forced labour, lack of medical treatment, communicable diseases, or food shortage that started prior to the Allies blockade.
7. There was no forced labour in concentration camps.
8. Concentration camps were optional. Jews weren't forced to go.
9. Concentration camps didn't exist.
10. No Jews were killed by the Nazi regime.
11. Jews were not persecuted by the Nazi regime.
12. No Jews were hurt in World War II or in years prior.

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It's generally accepted that the 6 million number only exists for religious reasons right?

>6.
It's obvious the Nazis rounded up the Jews because they were enemies of the state. I just doubt that there were any official documents signed for the purposeful extermination of the Jews.

Somewhere between 5 and 6

I'm sure the 6 million number is very favorable to the ADL, but it's pretty undeniable that Hitler gulag'd the jews and a lot of them died. I'm sure executions were carried out extremely liberally, and a culture of collective punishment permeated Germany at the time.

What I think is funny, is that nobody cared that much about the jews at that time. Nobody fought the nazis because 'omg theyre killing jews'.

>Soviets massacre more people in history than any other group
>every single death camp in existence was found and "liberated" by these people.

This is the one that really did me in. It's like if Ted Bundy showed you a couple of bodies in his basement and told you it was his neighbor

I just believe that 6 million was too high a number. I also think that the gas chambers were only for those who weren't able to work, and that most jews died as a result of poor treatment in work camps (which is associated with the hardships that came with the war). The Einsatzgruppen and the activities of Eastern European collaborators in killing jews is pretty well documented, so I think you'd be a fool to say that the Nazis didn't kill jews en masse.

The allies didn't really know what was going on other than that they were being sent into camps. A lot of the "they gas chambered all of them and turned them into lampshades and soap!1!" myths were just used for denazification purposes.

It would be more like if Ted Bundy showed you a couple of bodies in his basement and told you it was his neighbor, John Wayne Gacy.

well 1 for certain, number is almost certainly exaggerated.

5. I probably partially true too, although not most, but many would be more accurate.

>1. 6 million is too high a number. Fewer people died.

Agree.

>2. There were no gas chambers.

Disagree, the chambers existed but for delousing purposes.

>3. Gas chambers were built but not used.

See #2

>4. Gas chambers were only at test stages.
Only a small fraction of the dead died in gas chambers.

See #2 and 3.

>5. Most Jews died from food shortage resulting from Allies blockade.

Agreed, a majority of deaths came after the
Allies started closing in.

>6. Most Jews died from hardship from forced labour, lack of medical treatment, communicable diseases, or food shortage that started prior to the Allies blockade.

Disagree, though I wouldn't doubt in the least bit that there were occurrences of this because no one was fond of Jews. I wouldn't put it past anyone to fuck with someone you dislike in any of those ways.

>7. There was no forced labour in concentration camps.

Disagree, if you have a workforce why not make use of them instead of just sitting around absorbing needed supplies? This would be common sense practice.

>8. Concentration camps were optional. Jews weren't forced to go.

Disagree, the Reich saw Jews as a threat for many reasons, if you were caught then you were rounded up to ensure you couldn't do any harm, just like the US with the Japanese internment camps.

>9. Concentration camps didn't exist.

Agree, because they were internment camps, not concentration camps.


>10. No Jews were killed by the Nazi regime.

Disagree, Nazis saw them as a threat. The issue is that the massacres are highly exaggerated. I wouldn't doubt at all that some just outright killed Jews.

>11. Jews were not persecuted by the Nazi regime.

Disagree. In many of Hitler's speeches he speaks about the parasitic semites.

>12. No Jews were hurt in World War II or in years prior.

Disagree, people have hates Jews since their very conception as parasites, who the fuck wants to host such a thing? They get driven out because they're scum and for good reason.