I just fucking obliterated a socialist millenial

I fucked him so hard, no shitting, I'm pretty sure he just swallowed the redpill like a homo in a gay bar

It went a little like this:

>"user, stop being a fucking invisible-hand worshiping retard, real communism hasn't been tried yet"

>>'then what was the ussr, vietnam, china, cuba, etc.'

>"defected versions of communism"

>>'why does communism defect so much then?'

>"because the wrong people are leading the revolutions. we need a revolution that completely changes society and abolishes the central government system"

>>'but why would anyone want to do that?'

>"because the working class is being fucked over!"

>>'how is someone whos making 15 dollars an hour, plus benefits, getting fucked over?'

>"no working class member gets paid 15 dollars an hour"

>>'so youre telling me that construction workers, factory workers, warehouse workers, etc. are not a part of the working class?'

>"they are, but they are just lucky, most of the working class is making starving wages and need welfare"

>> "the majority of the working class is not on welfare you moron"

>'how are you so blind? the majority of AMERICA is on welfare!'

>>"no it isnt you deluded idiot, look it up"

>'34 percent..'

>>"is not the majority"

>'yeah..'

>>"now why would anyone who isnt on welfare want a revolution to the system that changes literally every aspect, especially when they arent a part of the oppressed minority"

>'i guess they wouldnt'

>>"i may worship the invisible hand, but you worship a long-dead pseudoeconomist that had no idea what he was talking about"

> *dead silence, ended up walking away after staring at the ground*

i really cant express that dead silence enough, it was literally an atmosphere of defeat

you would have been able to smell this guy's shame from a mile away, he knew he had been beaten

and then everyone clapped

...

you should have actually fucked him, to drive the point home

if only, it was just the two of us, he probably would have chimped out if there were more people around

like they always say, if you cant beat them, join them

i think we just gained a soldier today

is it really 34%?!?
wow wtf I hate society now

Good for you. In the office today I had my superior try to bet me $20 that Hillary would be the next President of the United States.

I replied, "I'll see your twenty dollars and raise you four dead Americans in Benghazi."

I got the standard "we shouldn't talk politics at work" response.

go around later and tell him it's okay and hold him close, see if you can't get some of that ass

Homos in gay bars swallow red pills eh. Ok

ye, 34.2 percent

and keep in mind, welfare comes in many forms, such as contraception, food stamps, etc., so some of the people "on welfare" might not even need it per se

50K income. 5000 in tax for wal mart. 500 for welfare. Oops i broke your tl;dr thread

yeah, i definitely could have come up with a better analogy

what i meant was homos swallowing loads in a gay bar, but it really didnt come out that way

A FUCKING LEAF

>chief exective cash register technician at wal-mart

>>>'why does communism defect so much then?'
>>"because the wrong people are leading the revolutions.
they are so fucking retarded holy shit.

2 things

1.) youre canadian, not american

2.) are you saying you get 5500 dollars worth of income from tax and welfare?

And then an eagle named "The Free Market" flew in and clawed your professor?

Literally gas yourself, pseud. Left-right politics is a spook and capitalism is a failed ideology.

It's because companies are paying their workers so little (or there are people stupid enough to work there) and the government has to pick up the slack. Cut Em off and let them die or force the company to pay more angers them either way.

I debate people in my head all the time. I do it pretty much every night before I go to bed. I don't pretend it was a real thing that happened and post about it on Sup Forums, though

except i wasnt shilling for capitalism or anything

he literally just started calling me a capitalist just because i said communism is retarded and doesnt work

>he's a social democrat!

i think youre missing the point of what i was saying

34.2 percent of americans are on welfare, but not all of them have the same form of welfare

in example, only 16 percent of them are using food stamps, 5 percent of them are using welfare in the form of free contraception, etc. (obviously not real measurements)

Mercantilism did
l i t e r a l l y
nothing wrong.

all i really know is that a sense of glory rushed over me when he conceded defeat

its the first step in turning him from the bluepill to the red pill

id say he is definitely a violet or light purple right now

I think im going to engage him again with this point of view

transition from politics to economics, and that should finish up the transition from commie degenerate to free-thinking individual

Socialism is a dead fucking cause anyways. Whats the point of being revolutionary if a revolution isnt going to happen?

i also told him this

i told him that a revolution isnt going to happen because nobody wants it, and he started sperging out that it was the job og the party to persuade them that they DO want it

i told him that it was literal brainwashing, 1984 style, and that if they have no reason to support the revolution, then they simply arent going to do it

i shit you not, this just happened about 15 minutes ago

i know its the internet and people have every reason to lie about how cool they are and how intense their power level is, but my true power level glistened like the sun on the ocean and burned his commie soul away

This checks, the homobars did just close about 15 minutes ago.

This is correct, but you're arguing as if there is no revolution coming.

The 2008 financial crisis is going to be remembered as just the beginning. The economic collapse isn't over yet. This is the calm before the storm. Pretty much all economists agree that things are going to get much, much worse before they get better. You can smell the fear. And, even worse, the economies of the world are in a drastically worse shape now than they were before the '08 crisis.

The centre will collapse within our lifetime. Some might argue that it already has in the US, with politicians like Trump competing seriously.

When the centre collapses all that's left is the left and the right. At the moment the left is failing drastically to present a credible alternative - as it did in the 20s and 30s, but that could change and it could change very quickly. It only takes one person. It may not be as drastic as the USSA but a resurgent left to go along with the resurgent American right is a real possibility.

Just remember that radical ideologies like communism and fascism are responses to real problems. His solution might be bad but I have no doubt that he went looking for a solution for good reason. The world can't keep going like it has. Neoliberalism has to die.

Those Monday night winners

Well, considering that im pretty sure he just took the right-pill, when the time comes for revolution, i think we can count him on team fascism

>>"i may worship the invisible hand, but you worship a long-dead pseudoeconomist that had no idea what he was talking about"

I shall quote you on this my friend

If you were a girl I would marry you on the spot. All the girls here are leftist feminist cucks. I hate it.

Duly noted canabro

Likewise m80

You're both wrong.

Communism and capitalism are both fine economic systems, in a simulation that doesn't account for human nature. Ants make communism work.

The problem is greed, something inherent to the human race. Anyone willing to lead a communist revolution is doing so to secure power and wealth at the expense of the people. That's why Marx spent all day writing in a cafe instead of actually pretending to give a damn about the oppressed workers he could have led. Because all he really cared about was how special and unique HIS idea was, and how famous and rich he'd get when he published his manifesto, and how many people would remember his name when SOMEONE ELSE stepped up and led his revolution.

In other words, communism is virtue signalling that psychopaths use as a means to secure followers and power, and capitalism is a Skinner box.

>Implying trump is any less of a monster..

>muh human nature
Stop posting any time.

Keep in mind that i wasnt advocating capitalism in any way

I was breaking down his argument objectively and showing him why he was wrong

Otherwise, good post, ill use some of these points in any new arguments i have

Does your dick get hard when you're horny?

i guess shartinmartistan is once again clapistan. i applauded you

Thank you, samurai-that-jews-fear-sama

No, you didn't. The men who buy into that shit don't let go until they become a success themselves.

They use it to explain their failure at life.

you´re both dumb

I shouldn't do it, but it's fun; whenever I get into it with a pinko I just appeal to emotion and shut them down. Fuck you if you've ever advocated for communism in your life.

>I have family that died trying to escape what you strive for
>You've been sheltered in the worst way your entire life and have never had to see someone scrape together all they owned to try to make it to this country only to die at sea
>Don't ever bring up your shitheel politics around me again
>You have no nudes what starvation does to a man
>But I know that your fucking ideology you're willing to go to revolucion (in Spanish, for effect) for causes starvation is is directly responsible for killing dozens of my family members
>Go starve in Venezuela you fucking parasite

>nudes
Idea* what the shit, auto-correct?

you can't really rape them, you just communize their ca-ca caverns

>You have no nudes what starvation does to a man


What did he mean by this

Well, greed is the reason why Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo achieved immortal glory, it's responsible for the great stories of men like Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar and Napoleon, that inspires other men to achieve great things and success. Greed is indeed the reason for ambition and success. I'm greedy to some degree if I want a home, car and a wonderful family all for myself. Greed is what lead Henry ford to mass produce cars which lead to cars being affordable to people outside of the middle class, and it lead to his workers being the highest paid in the country (to outdo his competitors and attract some of the best in their field to work for his company).

The problem is not greed. Whereas I would like to achieve success, but would also like to provide value in exchange for it, there are those who believe they have some divine right to accumulate value for no value in return - to receive value at the expense of others. There are those who want value going one way - to themselves, and then there are those who want to receive value in exchange for value.

There are those who want to follow the rules of the game and believe in justice, and then there are those who believe that other people purely exist as means to their own ends. The makers vs. the takers; the producers vs. the parasites.

Karl Marx and other communists and socialists are the parasites.

A third of people is pretty substantial though, for those a lot of social unrest could occur that would at least start riots. And with an ever increasing gap of wealth it may be expected that more and more people will experience poverty.

That said socialist revolution is the going full retard of policy solutions.

>tfw only friends with normies so I can obliterate anyone if political discussion comes up
>tfw the average kiwi is politically retarded anyway and it's not hard to rek them

Bear in mind 'welfare' doesn't mean staying alive on handouts, I thought it refers to any kind of benefits or tax break. Without more info a large chunk of that 34% could be on some very slight assistance but not be full gibsmedats.

>34% of Americans shart in mart

>Didn't go into how communism is such a shitty idea that it necessitates the use of force in the form of government to keep people from opting out of it
Are you even trying? The only exception to this is arguably the Amish, so yeah, anarcho-communism has been tried, and is still living in the same century Marx did.

How would you explain mercantilism? I get different answers every time I look into this.