Developments August 30 >SAA recaptures Palmyra Gain Silos >Russian Army convoy arrives in Aleppo >10 Free Syrian Army groups condemn Turkey’s incursion into Syria >Syrian Army, Hezbollah advance in southern Aleppo >Turkish-backed rebels attempt to hijack Kurdish gains against ISIS >Houthi delegation travel to Iraq and Iran >‘Boycott Bing!’ Riyadh furious after search engine translates 'Daesh' as 'Saudi Arabia' >Obama to meet with Erdogan regime on Sept 4 >US calls on Turkey and Kurdish forces in Syria to fight ISIL, not each other >48 hour ceasefire established in Homs City >Largest Syrian Christian city(Mhardeh, Homs) in danger as jihadist rebels enter neighboring town >9,000 refugee children disappear without a trace in Germany
mhp is a nationalist party who follows atatürk's way
Ethan Jones
i dont get this meme about turkey and russia buddying up, they've been enemies and have had opposed interests for centuries now
Brandon Barnes
not a bad idea
kek, you are joking right? mhp doesnt follow atatürks way. they couldnt even hang apo. atatürk would be dissappointed.
Cameron Cox
and suddenly we have similar interests and a big reason to be friends :^)
you americans fucked up big with failing that coup.
Luis Perry
Iranian authorities talking about that Russia should continue use of Iranian airbase.
Samuel Brooks
so what, are you guys going to let russia use the dardanelles, give up on your rebels and fuck around in your sphere of influnce? this alliance of convenience wont last forever
Grayson Flores
it can last for quite good time though. in fact russia, turkey, iran, iraq, syria, pretty much no one in the region wants a kurdish state hence we became allies.
also that coup attempt pretty much made turkey hate usa. its off the charts according to the polls lately, about 85% of the population hates usa in turkey. this is pretty huge man and pushes turkey to the russia.
if usa loses turkey everything regarding to the middle east is done for. you lose all your influence hence biden came to turkey and said "sorry" like 10000 times etc.
David Rogers
Nice.
Gabriel Peterson
you CAN out islam erdogan. its not that hard, you just have to be a bit intelligent.
Ryan Ward
Can you Turks please stop ruining these threads with your spam and shitposting, I get that you don't always have the same opinions as the others here but stop being so autistic about it.
Hudson Jones
regarding to the woops i didnt see the istanbul part. no not happening m8.
Henry James
>about 85% of the population hates usa in turkey wow your state-controlled media sure knows how to get work done im seriously impressed
Colton Wood
>incite the Turks against Russia island monkeys do it for hundreds of years, but now we have more mutual interests than contradictions.
Jeremiah Flores
>implying it was a fake coup wow your state-controlled media also sure knows how to get work dont. i am serously impressed as well.
Nolan Russell
6500 Eritreans and Somalians today alone fetched from the Mediterreanean by Frontex
Miss Qaddafi already?
Asher Morgan
looks like far-right parties in europe just went up in the polls again
Charles Johnson
According to the ceasefire agreement, Turkey will only advance 15 km west of Jarablus.
Countryside Autist BTFO.
Jaxson Garcia
I'm not saying it was a fake coup It could very well be a fake one, we don't know but do you seriously expect a coup that has pretty much no chance of succeeding to be backed by USA, when there'd be a huge political backlash from it. Is it that hard to imagine that the secularist faction in your country just arranged the coup out of desperation?
Thomas Jones
>tfw syria is collapsed >tfw assad will be replaced >tfw sunnis will have their own state in syria >tfw it will be a buffer to block iranian weapon transfers >tfw iranian expansionism is stopped >tfw shias are eternally btfo again by based sunnis
Leo Fisher
or maybe turks proved to be better than some coup traitors.
Samuel Williams
They have already advanced more than 17 km west of Jarablus, where the fuck did you read that
Cooper Watson
Alright fellow Americans, the eternal nigger Obango has compromised our Hegemony in the region with his retarded actions. How do we become the strong imperial power we were back in 06'?
>strong imperial power in '06 we werent one in '06 we were overextended this is like saying the soviet union was a strong imperial power when they invaded afganistan(rather than a decrepit polity desperately struggling to maintain their dwindling power)
Angel Russell
>erdogan comes to power with help of gulen+america >erdogan has no real power while gulen worked 40 years to infiltrate the system >the turkish secular army is too autistic and arrogant and put a message out that they are concerned with abdullah guls/akp affiliation with islam >the chief (dear leader erdogan) is saddened by the fact that he cannot work with the secular army as they are too autistic, and thus they need to be finished off, he cannot let a bunch of retards do some dumb coup again and fuck the country up >get gulen to fake proofs etc etc, cleanse the secular army, replace with gulenists, erdoganists >over time get more judges in your power for erdogan etc etc >erdogan is powerfull enough to seize power for himself and cuck gulen >gulen starts to fake all kinds of shit against erdogan >as erdogan cleanses the state from gulenists, and the army, a gulenist army officer tries to coup, erdogan likely knew about it but let it happen >this was probably without the real support of the cia or gulen, but the one behind were still people who are gulenists/cia backed >erdogan wins, fucks up the gulenists even harder >as the gulenists are fucked up, he gives a bone to the secularists, telling them "know who you are fucking with, try to be autistic again like you did years ago and ill fuck you up bad punk", he gives them their positions back for the time being >the country is united, he is making ataturk quotes, gives up some of his dictator ambitions.. >the really retarded foreign policy was mostly done by davutoglu, who he fucked up hard, as hes gone hes taking things into his own hand and fixing shit while securing turkish interests
he will truly go down as one of the best leaders of all time
Dominic Scott
I don't know why the media demonizes him so much, he's not as bad as Obama or Putin.
Jack Gomez
>sunnis are this delusional >they are actually getting their durka cuck asses handed to them
Ian Nelson
>N. Hama: Rebels took Suman barrier NW of Taibat Al-Imam and seized positions near Btaysh checkpoint S. of Helfaya.
Pushing towards Hama again
Austin Edwards
So why did Erdogan backstab Gulen? Was it preemptive to prevent Gulen from doing the same to him?
Nolan Lopez
Hes the only hope for securing the middle east. Hes strongarmed daesh, the kurds, russia, iran, israel, the usa, germany, the list goes on and on. OTTOMAN EMPIRE WHEN? UNIFIED M.E. WHEN?
Jonathan Barnes
Retarded foreign policy like what?
Cooper Ross
It seems the Turks will connect will Al-Rai since they have made a temporary truce with SDF.
At the same time, SDF in Afrin is trying to go fight ISIS in Al-Bab stronghold. And Probably connect with Manbij from there. Erdogan will let them take Al-Bab with US air support like they did in Manbij, because he will push them to the east of the Euphrates and better use them to do the hard work than lose soldiers. So here's my prediction:
>Turkey expands west towards Al-Rai, fighint ISIS until it forms the buffer zone form Marea to Jarabulus. >Wait out the SDF vs ISIS fight in Al-Bab, SDF will capture it. >Turkey will then resume it's fight with the SDF in Manbij, and continue the fight to Al-Bab until SDF retreats to eastern Euphrates.
Jordan White
yes. Gülen is even more power hungry than Erdogan.
Easton Bailey
its a power conflict issue. gulen wanted more power in the government but erdogan refused and so it began.
Anthony Nguyen
yes, there is no "real" democracy in turkey, its not european, its survival of the fittest, erdogan came out the strongest and he devoured gulen, its how things work in the jungle, people are autistic about him being an islamist but he values secularism, its not his problem that the secular army in that time were a bunch of arrogant cocksuckers, he even gave the advice to that shitskin mosi or whatever his name was in egypt to adopt a secularist law
erdogan literally made turkey great, but he still needs to work on stuff
eu is butthurt and we all know why, the us is all about control and they lost turkey
an important footnote is that western media did not give a single fuck when secular army was getting fucked up
are you dumb or what? his retarded foreign policy that made literally everyone turkeys enemy, just a dumb smug neo ottoman nerd
Nathan Sanchez
according to the daily sabah there is no truce and turkey will hit ypg if they dont go back to east of the river.
Evan Wilson
gülen wanted 150 rep quota from akp for parliament before 2011 elections. erdoğan denies. for retaliation gülen led prosecuters try to arrest chief of intelligence on feb 7. 2012, erdoğan prevents.
shit ensues onward.
Joseph Murphy
Turkey bans foreign plays in state theaters
According to reports in Turkish media, State Theaters will open the season with the motto “Turkey’s theaters raise the curtain on Turkish plays.” It is also reported that along with foreign plays, some Turkish plays will not be staged this year. Therefore, famous Turkish productions of Shakespeare’s “Romeo and Juliet,” “Hamlet,” “Macbeth” and many others will not be seen in state theaters.
Uhhh no. Stop pretending nothing Davutoglu did was not sanctioned or encouraged by Erdogan. Davutoglu just had the wit to carry out Erdogan's will. It was Erdogan and his big mouth that made everybody enemies.
redpill me now!! i want to see dead k*rds right now!!!!!!!
Asher Roberts
BASED
Nicholas Walker
>politics change hello there new friend
Bentley Butler
Soon inshallah. So basically Gulen is another good goy "muslim" like the saudis? It's not really a truce more of an entente between SDF and Turkey. They will let them breathe for a while so they can take on ISIS and do the work for them.
>Turkey says it will continue to hit the YPG unless it moves east of the Euphrates after a United States official Col. Thomas said that Turkey and the YPG had reached a “loose agreement”.
Luis Garcia
I doubt it tbqh. Connecting will never happen. And they will not take al Bab, just the areas north of it - if they can. Remains to be seen if ISIS lets them advance now that they are without US support.
Erdogan let them take Manbij to make it easy for him, but that is no longer necessary. Daesh became stuck in a corridor at Jarablus, and once that corridor is taken, they will just have a small corridor in al Bab too. It is not worth letting the YPG tap into the manpower pool of Afrin, that is the one thing Erdogan must avoid the most.
Jacob Rivera
according to this turkish insider account. It is a truce for 48 hours, the ypg is supposed to leave manbij in 48 hours if they don't it will be GENOCIDE
James Sullivan
uhhh no, stop pretending erdogan is some ultimate king lord that envisions everything, he cares about his power and thats all, we dont know whats behind the scenes but its highly likely davutoglu influenced him in what to do in alot of things, and when the idiot got too cocky erdogan fucked him up
>So basically Gulen is another good goy "muslim" like the saudis?
you can compare gulen to the ayatollah of iran, he wants to be in that position, and yes he is valuable to the cia
He is not a kinglord, he's a thuggish autocrat, it is his impulsiveness that got his country into all sorts of trouble. Davutoglu was the saner one and probably resigned just cause the madman became too much to deal with.
Easton Smith
yes takes some dedication to stick to a plan this extensive... he was really good at gathering supporters and building extensive networs in instuitutions in turkey and elsewhere.
he really stared pretty early founding his own schools planting his supporter everywhere and then he fucked up by staging this shitty coup...
guess he really wanted to reap the rewards of all his efforts before he dies... destroyed huge parts of his network with that move though.
i still don't believe gülen is in this alone an operation like that needs other and more powerful people to support it.
David Diaz
there is no entente as well. sabah claims turkey will hit ypg until they withdraw to the east of river.
John Long
davutoglu resigned because he was against handing over power (erdogan wants a presidential system to be voted in while davutoglu didnt want that and keep his power as the prime minister), he is not the sane one he is the dumb neo ottoman
yes he has absolute power, did i say the opposite? people overestimate erdogans decision making in foreign policy making, thats all
Connor Anderson
>davutoglu resigned because he was against handing over power
and you conveniently scapegoat him for all of Erdog's blunders, how convenient
William Gutierrez
not for all his blunders but a good part of his foreign policy making, thats my OPINION, fact of the matter is we both dont know shit so shut up shitskin
Eli Howard
German asylum seekers refuse to work insisting 'We are Merkel's GUESTS'
