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Zachary Allen
Full speeches in remastered color when?
Nathaniel Jenkins
Good effort OP.
So, tell me more about sweden and how it is.
Jaxon Bennett
You people remember 2013?
Remember when JIDF pls go was constant and you could pick from what flag you wanted like Natsoc or White Power...
Isaiah Perez
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Mason Bennett
It's fine OP. No need for these long lists with links. That is what pastebins are for desu.
Logan Gonzalez
if I only have the dl data for a few nat soc movies what should they be?
Nolan Diaz
That I do.
We're bringing those days back. /nsg/ is just the beginning.
As I was saying, tell me more about sweden, though.
Gavin Morris
Most likely like California with more taxes and more arabs.
>every dime I pay in taxes goes to further destroying my nation
Race war when?
Logan Gonzalez
Starting a nationalist/traditionalist movement in upstate NY. I don't want to be a bunch of stormweenies, so gonna focus on being anti-BLM and for European traditional values as well as anti-Muslim to start.
Any advice?
Jackson Reyes
When you begin it.
How's nordfont and the Soldiers of Odin?
Brandon Clark
>stormweenies
JIDF pls go
Ian Allen
>the based german is here, this is what i wanted translations for (if its you) I don't think I'm the german you mean. I don't understand. Those speeches are already translated. youtube.com/watch?v=QXNxUiVZO5s
So wanting to be a movement more like Generation Identitiare makes me JIDF?
The people that are drawn to Nazism are mostly white trash that want to wave around nazi flags and shout nigger. Just ask George Lincoln Rockwell. You aren't going to reach people that way.
Chase James
Weed out the trash until you've formed an intellectual core to lead it. Start one organisation like call it the Patriot's Bookclub or sumn, as people trickle in to read different nationalist books, let the discussions take form. Calling us stormweenies however makes me think you aren't supposed to be on this board or this general.
The NMR have a lot of potential, Their name is The Nordic Resistance movement and it's active all over europe. Problem is, it is fairly cringey and autistic at times. I've never heard anything about soldiers of odin other than some quick newsflash. Dosen't seem to have a stable ground. Which the NMR has.
Ryan Evans
What has Generation Identitiare accomplished? Isn't it too filled with white trash?
Jose Reyes
*all over the nordics.
Camden Phillips
>Just ask George Lincoln Rockwell.
George Lincoln Rockwell went to Brown university, and created a movement from nothing.
>You aren't going to reach people that way.
Really? He started a march of 1000 people in Chicago. He spoke at countless colleges across the country. If he hadn't been shot, he could've gone much farther.
False pretenses and trying to hide who we are through deceit will never work. We aren't born liars- the jews are.
So in short, JIDF pls go.
Luis Bailey
Also subtitled. If you have some questions or need help by some germans, you are welcome to visit deutsch/pol/. This is what it looks like archive.fo/VlXlg I don't post the direct link, nor the current version, because of the "spamfilter". I'm sure you can find it.
Nathan Bennett
almost as if it were recorded in hd
Chase Hall
>Calling us stormweenies however makes me think you aren't supposed to be on this board or this general.
Yeah, he seems like a milo yiafaggot or a Jared Taylor type to me. Trying to Kosherize us.
Good luck with those movements. Are you involved in any way?
Levi Parker
Soldiers of odin do patrols every now and then but i don't really hear too much about them desu. >NMR/SMR They do activities like information campaigns, taking down EU and Fagflags etc.. youtube.com/watch?v=mZkQyaxHhFQ There is alot going on at the moment but it is hard to keep track of everything.
mostly un translated after 52 minute mark and then at the end and ok i'll check that out thanks
Juan Cox
The actual man in charge of repairing the economy was Hjalmar Schacht.
Schacht realised the economy of Germany was entirely unsustainable without some reforms, otherwise conquests would be necessary to fund it.
The actual Nazis (Göring, Hitler,..) made sure to kick him out especially because they did not agree with his economic policies that helped revive the German economy.
Once the war would be over, the economy would crash again and Germany would experience yet another depression.
Schacht was a member of the Nazi Party but he also publicly expressed his disgust at the treatment of the Jews as soon as 1938, and tried to co-conspire against Hitler after 1938. One can hardly call this man a Nazi.
In the end all this proves is that Hitler cared more about power and dominance than he did about the good and well-being of his people.
Liam Campbell
Let me stress this again: Hitler didn't fix the economy, Hjalmar Schacht did. Hitler then fired him and ran the economy into the ground again.
Even if you concede that Hitler fixed the economy (which he didn't), you still can't separate that from the fact that the German economy was essentially converted into a war machine dependent upon its upcoming conquest and looting, which in turn set the stage for a genocidal campaign through Eastern, Central, and Southern Europe...all of this ending with the complete collapse of the German state, its defeat in an unwinnable war, and its partition subsequently.
If you're judging by immediate legacy, worst leader ever (even restricting that to just the German people he deemed racially worthwhile).
Justin Thomas
>Hitler’s Plan To Destroy Christianity (1/3)
Once the war was over, Hitler promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian Churches. By the latter part of the decade of the thirties church officials were well aware that the ultimate aim of Hitler and other Nazis was the total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion. Since the overwhelming majority of Germans were either Catholic or Protestant this goal had to be a long-term rather than a short-term Nazi objective.
Under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler—backed by Hitler—the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. The Nazis plan was to de-Christianise Germany after the final victory. It seems no exaggeration to insist that the greatest challenge the Nazis had to face was their effort to eradicate Christianity in Germany or at least to subjugate it to their general world outlook. It was Hitler's long range goal to eliminate the churches once he had consolidated control over his European empire.
Jaxson Price
>Hitler’s Plan To Destroy Christianity (2/3)
In 1999 Julie Seltzer Mandel, while researching documents for the "Nuremberg Project", discovered 150 bound volumes collected by Gen. William Donovan as part of his work on documenting Nazi war crimes.
Donovan was a senior member of the U.S. prosecution team and had compiled large amounts of evidence that Nazis persecuted Christian churches. In a 108-page outline titled "The Nazi Master Plan" Office of Strategic Services investigators argued that the Nazi regime had a plan to reduce the influence of Christian churches through a campaign of systematic persecutions. "Important leaders of the National Socialist party would have liked to meet this situation (of church influence) by complete extirpation of Christianity and the substitution of a purely racial religion," said the report. The most persuasive evidence came from "the systematic nature of the persecution itself".
Gavin Cox
>Hitler’s Plan To Destroy Christianity (3/3)
In Hitler's scheme for the Germanization of Eastern Europe, there was to be no place for Christian churches. For the time being, he ordered slow progress on the 'Church Question'. “But is clear”, noted Goebells, himself among the most aggressive anti-church radicals, “that after the war it has to be solved... There is, namely, an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a Germanic-heroic world-view". Once the war was over, Hitler promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian churches, but until then he would be circumspect.
In his memoirs, Hitler's chief architect Albert Speer recalled that when drafting his plans for Hitler's "new Berlin", when he told Hitler's private secretary Martin Bormann that he had consulted with Protestant and Catholic authorities over the locations for churches: "Bormann curtly informed me that churches were not to receive building sites".
Alexander Wright
No, I am going to donate to the NMR soon enough. I don't know what good it will do however as their focus often seem to be more at climbing mountains then creating a strong resistance. Maybe it's part of the plan.
I wonder what the future holds for this world.
Reminder Hjalmar Schacht was economically illiterate and a degenerate. The german economy was fixed through labour and ingenouity. Reminder that the German Reich had a strong christian influence.
Jace Kelly
Hi Froghurt.
Charles Young
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Anthony Sanchez
>Reposting my question, gimme a hand guys.
/NSG/, help me understand.
I like the idea of NatSoc, to a certain extent. The militarism, discipline, love of one's race, nation, and the refusal to bend to foreign, non majority whims is very appealing. However, I do have some hangups.
What of individual liberty? I have done some reading on NS ideology and it seems like individual freedom is secondary to the will of the leader, which is off-putting. I understand that in order to have a successful ethnostate, the needs of the race must be put before the individual, but what are the broader implications of this?
Why do we treat NatSoc like it is a viable option outside of already racially homogenous societies? There is no way to achieve a white ethnostate without millions upon millions of deportations or worse, outright deliberate mass murder. Say what you want about the NSDAP and the charges of genocide against them, but would actually committing such acts (as have been "advocated for" here) be in the best interest of the race when they would likely draw foreign intervention?
Just some questions, guys. Any thoughts?
David Cox
Do not reply to him.
Jackson Russell
The frozen yoghurt man strikes again from the depths of his milky cave.
Samuel Campbell
The truth will hold good things for us, but only if we fight for it. The day is coming when we must shed all masks of anonymity.
Hey, noticed you didn't respond to these answers:
Nathaniel Lopez
WARNING AGAINST APOSTASY:
>6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
>7 [Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth;
>9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
>10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
DEUTERONOMY 13:6 - 3:11
Henry Lewis
George Lincoln Rockwell was a smart guy, because he didn't go around shooting nigger. That's just what most of the people that were attracted to his movement liked to do.
Sorry I don't want to join a group full of government snitches and white trash looking people that wanna LARP like the KKK and neo-nazis. But I guess I'm the real JIDF for wanting to partake in an actual movement that discards all the Nazi crap, which people will never accept.
It isn't that I don't agree with the ideologies of Hitler. But Nazism was for Germany. And it was a futurist movement. If you want to recreate it, you have to get rid of its vilified appearance and recreate it into something new with modern styles.
I don't necessarily disagree with the 'nazis with a smile' image that they portray the alt-right as.
The movement should look good and wear suits, khakis and button-ups.
The European Nationalist Movements seem to do it much better. The Nazi punk style needs to go and it needs to be replaced by something futurist.
Kayden Bailey
Pic related
How is it going for you in america?
James Anderson
Shit was cash. I've graduated from Nat soc. I'm straight traditionalism with monarchism
Jordan Smith
Truly the glorious days. I'll be here when you're back to natsoc.
Jack Lewis
Shit's fucked. Our natsoc movements suffer from a lack of strong leadership and a degenerate rank and file. Those that feel strong pride for our country associate natsoc with the enemy.
We're going to change that, though. The drift to Trump shows a certain openness among whites that we can exploit by taking further if he wins and fails to come to a true solution to the race problem, or if he loses, his supporters may turn to us in desperation.
Die fahne hoch.
Jace White
> I checked out the NSM page. They look like a bunch of white trash gangbangers and I feel like I'd end up on a watch list because I have no doubt they're full of government plans if I joined them.
Colton Perry
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Ryder Fisher
Yeah, the NSM USA is pretty bad. But if you start a new movement, take care not to try and overcorrect, because efforts to say "we're not like the other nazis, honest" are universally heavy handed and awkward. Pic related.
Elijah Stewart
I have a few nationalist friends in my area of Upstate NY and I've had a lot of interest in my ideologies. And we wanna start a movement but there is too much stuff associated with the nazis and KKK. Even though I make it pretty known that I openly agree with what Hitler did and that he dindu nuffin to my friends, and I don't think people are as accepting to the KKK - who the neo-nazis here are allied with.
Joshua Miller
I've always thought of the american movements as, just that, american. It's commercialized in a way, mimicing hollywood bullshit about the movements. I might be wrong tho. Hopefully, as america will experience turbulence, there might be oppertunities for a strong rise in white brotherhood. Like spoken about in Ethnic Cleansing Operations, no?
The wave must eventually arrive, after amassing power, and wash the world friend.
Gott Mit Uns.
Do not reply to him.
Christopher Price
Ah, thought the last thread died before I got to post that second one. Whoops.
Anyway, I agree that a race war would be preferable to a campaign of extermination, as it seems to me that our race will only stand up when an imminent, visible threat (to them) arises. We see it already, so we have to prepare, and I am. I like the idea of fighting for, and through victory retaking, our country.
My next question is in regarda to the Neo-Nazi problem:
How do we establish a movement free of tattooed criminals and white-niggers who don't actually know about NatSoc and dont actually care. Ive heard anons posit that they're the cannon fodder, the grunts, which is all well and good, but how do we remove the population's opinion of NatSoc as a negative, knuckle-dragger infested gang without first removing these subhumans from the ranks?
Not trying to be dramatic, just can't think of any other way to put it.
Hudson Roberts
We're thinking about forming a flash mob at BLM rallies when they block an intersection and having American flags and signs.
That's the problem with these BLM and latino people, who come here, waving around African and Mexican flags at their rallies. You've seen the videos of the anti-Trump people. They seem very hostile and un-American. And it's the same with the neo-nazis and their swastika American flag that they wave around.
William Stewart
>I might be wrong tho.
I'd reccomend the books of George Lincoln Rockwell. Start with "This time the world". It'll help you see us in a new light.
Be adviced, I do know that there is a disgnificant difference in the americanism that the rest of the world has experienced, and the americanism that americans have and some of them are experienceing. I connect that form of nationalist americanism with Kansas for some reason. Like, a lonely farm with a happy family living in it. American Gothic. I might be stereotyping to hard.
Isaiah Stewart
>And it's the same with the neo-nazis and their swastika American flag that they wave around.
The solution is to look respectable. So long as you're not fat and bald, and covered with tattoos, that alone will put you above their perception of the swastika, which you can change by putting side by side with the american flag.
Blake Smith
This will never not be funny.
Jeremiah Martinez
It's not just the rural areas. The areas like Brooklyn up until the 50s, the suburbs- these were areas that had real culture in them. Obviously, they've been judified, and I really hate it when people think of American culture/americanization when it is jewish influence alone.
John Sanchez
I agree. I think we need to cut ties to the Nazi image, even if we adhere to the ideology. Attract the youth. Get good looking, well dressed people.
Dress in suits and button-ups and khakis like more of the European movements that draw out big numbers and march through the streets with torches.
I like the precision, organization and unity of the original nazis.
A new movement would need to be an American movement. Have mostly American flags, and maybe one or two of your own symbols that aren't tied to nazism or KKK... -etc.
Try to attract young people that are fed up with BLM, afraid of the Muslims, and tell them about white genocide. Obviously mix in a little about the Jews and how Hitler dindu nuffin overtime.
William Clark
I've watched a lot of Rockwell, and I do plan of buying This Time The World. Holy heck tho, that's one of the most powerfull names for a book I can imagine, or a phrase, when concerning the Natsoc movement.
>>How do we establish a movement free of tattooed criminals and white-niggers who don't actually know about NatSoc and dont actually care.
The answer is, I guess, that we have to start appealing to the right people with the swastika. The poor movements that we know of- NSM USA and others try and target criminals for the sake of getting muscle. We need to do what rockwell did- use propaganda and emotional tactics to target the right people. Veterans, college students, people in general that have been disaffected. In sum, we need to make a new movement that's far more selective.
Have you read Rockwell's books? I'd start there.
Christian Martin
Don't mind me, just passing through. Have a good one.
Hunter Reyes
>The solution is to look respectable. So long as you're not fat and bald, and covered with tattoos, that alone will put you above their perception of the swastika, which you can change by putting side by side with the american flag.
So why did Hitler make up his own imagery and symbols when he came to power?
I think that the Nazi symbol needs to go. He took some foreign symbol and made it his because he didn't want it to be associated with anything else already Germanic. And it attracts shitty people, like I said, that just want to shout nigger.
Jaxon Bell
I can feel you, especially architecturally. The whole world mimmics the long dong spicy shiny buildings of america, yet these building, in the vast majority, are culturless bragging-constructions designed by jews. I've never been to america, and if I go, I'll most likely never experience the true culturesoul of america. Care to post pictures illustrating it before I hit the gym?
James Baker
Damn, that is impressive.
I'd like to get my hands on one of Rockwell's books, myself. I was born in the same town as where he had his headquarters- we even had the same Barber! Unfortunately, his was less well known, and thus, it's hard to get a copy of the originals.
Thomas Kelly
Hitler was a futurist, and if he came to power again today, he wouldn't use his old imagery. He'd create something new that doesn't have stigma attached to it.
Jaxson Powell
>some foreign symbol >not the symbol he saw every day as a child at church JIDF please.
Mason Walker
Hitler would use the most powerful imagery he could find. The swastika, if anything, carries more power now, after the war, than before it.
I will myself look for it. My natsoc/fascist library is far too small.
Cooper Hall
Sadly, I don't have too many images of the old america, preferring instead to read books. But have this old one of times square.
Camden Collins
I'm gonna you Ameribros some advice here. As you said, get uniforms that look smart. Ditch the overtly NatSoc stuff, and create a uniquely American look and feel. Calling yourself 'fascist' is probably better than identifying as NatSoc. Appeal to people's concerns at the moment, rather than go 14/88 Hitler was right, at least openly.
This pretty much what the European movements are doing to some extent.
Eli Roberts
Pretty. Maybe one day it will rise again. Or maybe the world has to be turned to ashes before the white man arises again in true form.
There are german organisations active in Sweden? Note that this is written by Expo, a political organisation that focuses on hunting and doxing nationalists and then making sure they are fired from their job.
Grayson Williams
What does exactly make white race so special in comparison to blacks, asians or others?
Jaxson Watson
What are you doing here?
Daniel Martin
Literal uniforms or just a dress code? Polos with shorts and boat shoes would appeal more to the average white man or woman than some pseudo-military outfit.
Khakis, button downs, polos, clean shaven and well groomed, no tattoos (ideally at all, but at least not visible), no swastikas, no mention of Hitler. Pro-American White, Pro-Military, Nationalists.
That's my idea of an image for a Fashy or NS movement in America.
Jayden Gutierrez
Read a history book.
Thomas Rogers
Nothing is required to differentiate any race as special in order to respect the integrity of their ancestral homelands and cultures.
Aiden Wright
Great answers. Expected them to be in such form.
Leo Gutierrez
Shit questions get shit answers. If you go to a board, dedicated to the "Politically Incorrect", go into a general dedicated to national socialism, and ask "What does exactly make white race so special in comparison to blacks, asians or others?"
There is no doubt you are just shitposting. GTFO.
Chase Russell
I'ts up to you, but I like the idea of uniforms. It makes people really feel like they're part of something. It also looks impressive, and will differentiate yourself from the skinheads and KKK, that lot.
Joseph Cook
Yes, there are still some gems. I still plan on visiting the Hermannsdenkmal, Wewelsburg, the Kyffhäuserdenkmal (pic related) and link related. If you are thinking about old architecture it's mostly small towns. Maybe something like Goslar, Quedlinburg or even Weimar. archive.is/lslja
>Goslar, Quedlinburg or even Weimar. I think Bavaria has much more to offer in comparison, though.
Leo Morales
I was thinking more in terms of buildings erected during Hitler's germany. I know the Prora is still there, but, I mean it's not really exciting.
I will be sure to cross atleast one of these things off if I ever manage to travel to southern germania tho.
Connor Diaz
Fair enough, I just think they look far too anachronistic to warrant any serious consideration. Plus the average slumbering white 21 year old would more readily identify with someone who looked like him (business casual, "preppy" look) than some guy in a uniform. Jave you seen American NSM members? They look absolutely ridiculous, and no amount of 10/10 Chads could change that.
Militaristic uniforms are a relic of parties passed. We are talking about the future of our people and movement. Generation Identitaire has it right