What was your reaction at this scene (if you didn't know the spoilers) at the time?
Literally felt sick, a bit nauseous, was watching this series for the first time in 2015
got up and talked to my cousin in the other room "they killed everyone, they killed everyone" and started to look at the wall thinking, really couldn't believe
Samuel Williams
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Luke Collins
This scene had a far less intense impact on me compared to when Ned dies.
Ned's death is still the saddest death, regardless of how naive he was.
Joshua Morris
Yeah I was mad since I really liked Robb.
Isaiah Cook
This
James Nguyen
I started watching this show from the beginning this month, before I thought that this show was just full of sex and incest and they wouldn't go that far. No way could they kill the guy who just died's son but they did. It got me hooked into the series because it was very different from the usual stuff I saw.But now the series is just disappointing.
John Evans
I had the same feeling reading the chapter, but watching it I was trying not to hide my laughter at everyone around me freaking out.
Andrew Wilson
the way that guy slices catelyn's throat at the end looked really awkward to me
Jayden Hall
I knew what was coming but was still horrified when Talisa got killed since Robb's wife lives in the books
Xavier Brooks
Robb is handsome af so I was pissed
Elijah Bailey
literally the best and most brutal part of the entire thing
Owen Rodriguez
>What was your reaction at this scene No reaction, since I read the books before the show came out
Christopher Brooks
remember when this show used to show dick and bush? goddamn it sucks now
Eli Russell
got peaked at this moment
Adam Smith
I went from "holy shit no" to "well, he had this coming, you don't insult an entire house then waltz into their castle unarmed" in a few seconds. Genuinely loved it.
Jace Evans
(if you didn't know the spoilers)
Jonathan James
really awkward directing, actor queues, the way roose bolton kind of popped in out of nowhere and then just as fast walked off camera so that catelyn could have her moment... it was wrong. i feel bad for whoever directed the scene, i feel worse for whoever had to edit it because i'm sure the footage must have all been shit if that's the best that they could do.
Nicholas Foster
The creators purposely did that to shock readers.
Nathan Rodriguez
The Freys were vassals to house Tully, they had no right to ask for marriage just for military access.
Evan Fisher
I read the books and knew it was coming. I was looking forward to it, but as the episode progressed, I was getting more and more anxious.
Carter Brooks
I saw it on the day of its premiere and unfortunately someone at my school at the time spoiled that Cat and possibly Robb were going to bite the dust, plus I had heard of something called RW or the Red Wedding. Still took me off guard and felt a tad nauseous watching it.
Adrian Wilson
i read the books and wasn't watching the show at the time, but it was pretty hilarious seeing the reactions of showfags when it came out
Jonathan Clark
this scene was terrible. it was the whole way it was written and directed to be as dramatic as possible and drag on. it felt like i was being purposefully manipulated. this scene right here is the exact point game of reddit went to complete shit. this scene was designed for women who enjoy constantly being hammered with emotional garbage
Alexander Smith
I knew they were gonna get massacred as soon as I heard the musicians playing the Rains of Castamere. Those idiot Starks had like 5 minutes to get the fuck out but no...
Samuel Gomez
This shit has nothing on Oberyn dying.
Jordan Ramirez
Oberyn was an unlikeable Chad faggot, based Mountain exploded him like he deserved to.
Michael Rivera
I started watching GoT early. I got into it when the first season was going, got about 4 episodes in and realized I watned to read the books.
I read all books and watched the rest of the first.
I knew it was coming so it probably didn't hit me as hard as it did most people, it was still very sad and depressing.... but no television death had ever hit me so hard as the death of Jimmy on Boardwalk Empire. I've had Jimmy's life almost *identically* (minus the motherfucking) and his disposition was very similar to mine. I expected him to be a major player for many seasons and it broke my fucking heart when they killed him. I was very depressed about it for at least two weeks and had to strongly debate with myself if I really wanted to watch that show anymore. I decided to watch the rest of the series and honestly, I wish I hadn't, after they killed Jimmy the show lost its rudder and meandered terribly. It had a couple of decent seasons then 3 terrible ones.
Wyatt James
Then the Tullys should've fucked them up eh? Lmao @ those worthless pussies.
Thomas Sanchez
if Oberyn met you IRL he'd probably be chill and invite you to party with him but the "based" Mountain would rape your mom and probably kill you too
William Robinson
>they had no right to ask for marriage just for military access Lol. They controlled the crossing. The King of the North and the Riverlands, an unmarried man, needed to cross. He couldn't afford to fight or negotiate, not enough time. The Freys made the smart choice asking for the marriage pact.
Sebastian Peterson
I unironically laughed my ass off. I knew it was coming because I read the books and without the surprise you really notice how awkwardly coordinated it was, not to mention it they literally stab the shit out of a pregnant women before the brawny soldiers and that hilarious ending with Cat screaming for like 3 minutes and casually cutting the throat of that wife of Walder Frey.
Jacob Murphy
this makes too much sense. are there any bookfags that care to comment?
Justin Perez
what a shitty basis for a marriage. "pledge your life to love and protect my daughter or I will betray all of my oaths of loyalty just to spite you"
Colton Scott
Not really. It's pretty straightforward.
>"You want to cross? You want me to help you in your way? Marry one of my daughters." >"Ok."
It's Robb's own fault for agreeing. He could have married a Frey girl off to Edmure Tully to begin with. And then Robb broke that oath. It's true that Frey broke every rule in the Westerosi honor book too, he's scum. But Robb provoked him.And honestly, no matter how sacred the tradition of "guest rite" is, you would have to be a moron to walk in unarmed into the castle of a man you just grievously insulted while you're losing a war that he was never enthusiastic about helping you with to begin with.
Nathan Brooks
*help you in your war
Parker Watson
I was surprised but not super duper surprised. I always had the inkling that Jon was really the main character the whole time because he was sent to the wall and that's closest to the White Walker threat.
The first scene of the first episode in season 1 featured WWs so that tells you right there that they were the main threat.
Lucas Mitchell
How did they get away with stabbing a preggo in the belly? Imagine the social media outrage if it aired today
Hunter Cooper
it's fiction
Hunter Anderson
I read the books so I knew it was coming. Used to watch season 3 with this cute girl in my econ class in college and every week we would talk about GoT and she would ask me questions about the books and I knew she loved Robb so I would tell her how important Robb was and how he was such a vital part of the books and how "the one character you don't have to worry about is Robb, don't worry" when she would ask about which characters would die. She literally was in tears that night. And she got pissed at me for like three days
Landon Bell
They probably *could* have negotiated a bit on Frey's price for military alliance and crossing privleges. Perhaps offered him marriage rights into the Tully family instead. But his asking price was too high and he probably would have accepted a good, but lesser, option.
HOWEVER, the Starks did royally fuck him by offering to marry his progeny into their family and then breaking their oath. They had to know fucking a man like Walder Frey was bound to have consequences....
Though I had already read the books and I knew the Red Wedding was coming, I suspect I would have realized anyhow just by Walder's general tone in that episode.
But I think had they just offered a Tully intermarriage from the beginning as a counter-offer, it probably would have been fine.
Generally, nobles in the middle ages married for political alliances and power, as is the case here. They had women on the side for love.
Robb should have married the Frey girl and had his lover on the side. that's something I'm sure Walder would have understood....
Adrian Lewis
*record scratch* *freeze frame* >Yep that's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation. Well, capture a couple of Lannisters and let them both go and before you know it your throat is slit open at your brother's wedding.
Robert Anderson
Fucking same. Grinning like a retard, glad I could be part of it. >oh jeez what's this episode gonna be about, last season's episode 9 was a huge battle. This is just a wedding?
Ryan Garcia
>HOLY FUCK THE RED WEDDING >literally two main characters and a dog die
Yeah, epic
Adam Rogers
I subverted a friends expectations when I was watching episode 8 with him. He knew the term Red Wedding, and I was like >Yeah this is it. Lannister colors are red, they're in the red keep, and Sansa has red hair He probably didn't buy it but if he didn't he was nice enough to lie about it
Noah Sanchez
>marrying a big nosed, big eared, chinlet jew wife only to have her, and your unborn son murdered at your wedding
robb was a retard
David Watson
>How did they get away with stabbing a preggo in the belly? It was funny
William Gutierrez
>all these brainlets who have no udnerstanding of why it happend it was a crime, but he was slated for death regardless of whether or not he had more lannister hostages. More starks would have died until they were released. Just look at what happend to the lannisters who held many hostages
Cooper Anderson
When I seen this, I wasnt active in GoT generals so I didnt hear/see leaks or people bitch around serious content. For me it was a lil depressing but actually interesting. But now I look at these threads and see fan theories, fan leaks, leaks, spoilers, book comparisons, and by the time the show aires with its out teaser I know what to expect going into it. Maybe if I stay away the season 8 absolutely blows me away.
Blake White
Because the leftist whiners love seeing fetuses get stabbed. It's "marital rape" i.e. consummation, that they really hate.
Zachary Martinez
Hadnt read the books at that point, thought it was gonna be your typical good beats evil story and that robb was being set up to win the war.
was legit blown away, especially at his pregnant wife being shivved endlessly
Thomas Powell
He would've won if he told Edmure about encircling the Lannister army. That way even with the wildfyre bomb Stannis would have still won the Battle of the Blackwater. Loras wouldn't do shit to Stannis.
Jaxson Rodriguez
>Mountain would rape your mom and probably kill you too based
Brayden Rogers
Why did robb need to cross the twins?
it's way off to the side on the map, why didnt he just take his army on the kingsroad?
Jose Garcia
Complete satisfaction. The red wedding only happened because Robb acted like a retard and married some 5/10 literally who.
Alexander Gutierrez
the Red Wedding is by far the most memorable scene from GoT for me
Angel Ross
leftist actually support murdering fetuses
Mason Green
>No reaction, since I read the books before the show came out
That can't be true, because his waifu is still alive in the books.
Luke Roberts
>Literally felt sick, a bit nauseous, was watching this series for the first time in 2015 >got up and talked to my cousin in the other room "they killed everyone, they killed everyone" and started to look at the wall thinking, really couldn't believe
normie of the night award goes to OP.
Read the books so I knew it was happening, cared less than in the books because it's more directly Robb's fault. In the books Robb is several years younger and only marries the girl from getting her pregnant
Caleb Rodriguez
sorry to go full bookfag but it couldn't help but feel like a letdown after reading the books. even though they go as far as to show a preganant woman getting stabbed in the stomach its missing some grotesque details from the book, like the horrible music and all the cool minor characters that get slaughtered. imagine if the episode ended with catelyn dying after tearing her face up and killing the retarded grandson
Chase Cook
I would do the same
Ian Garcia
I really didn't want Robb to die. Thought he was a great character and definitely one of the key turning points in the show getting worse.
Talisa being killed the way she did was fucking brutal though. Didn't see that coming at all. Don't recall any other medium where I've seen something like it.
Chase Cruz
cause tywin was guarding the trident while jaime was sieging riverrun His plan (which worked) involved sending 2000 men under Roose down the Kingsroad to attack and distract tywin while he went on to Riverrun to surprise and attack Jaime The Twins was the only crossing that'd allow him to do that
Tyler Barnes
jaime was with brienne at that point both in the books and in the show.
Juan Reed
I saw people bitching about robb dying on facebook a few months before I decided to watch the show. When I started getting closer to the end of season 3 i knew it was only a matter of time and it kinda ruined it for me
Hunter Rogers
I didn't watched the episode when it aired I was planning to watch it the next day and fucking facebook ruined it for me
Jaxson Gomez
Kek feel bad for you guys, literally watched all of the series without knowing a single spoiler, pretty great experience
Dylan Lewis
the only big shock I got was ned because I watched it by the time season 2 was airing so everybody already forgot about it
Charles Richardson
That storyline was going nowhere so I kinda expected it
Nathaniel Hall
the chapter gave me chills because of how it's written from cat's pov and how she slowly realizes what's happening but too late
the entire thing just feels off the entire time even before the killing starts
was really well done 2bh
Luke Kelly
I was totally like "holy shit" but what really touched my feels was katy stark scene at the end and that scream after she gots slit in the throat, pure kino
Elijah Campbell
they probably could've negotiated a better option but they felt pressed for time. they needed to cross before Tywin showed up
catelyn brings up that he's sworn to house tully, which he counters with that he's also sworn to the Crown, so he's betraying an oath no matter what.
Jordan Phillips
I told my friends that Robb defeats Joffrey 1v1 in battle at Casterly Rock.
Juan Robinson
the last sentence still gives me chills >No, don’t, don’t cut my hair, Ned loves my hair. Then the steel was at her throat, and its bite was red and cold.
David Brooks
Not when he made the deal.
The show logic of why he needed the Red Wedding was to gain Frey forces. because of losing the Karstarks.
In the books I think he weds Edmure off because he feels he's slighted Walder, and owes it to him.
Nathaniel Nelson
i didn't even know that this was the red wedding at first. it was hyped up to be this huge thing where all the main characters die, only robb and lady stark are the only major characters who die. overhyped. miss robb though.
Nathan Gray
"This show is great". Then it immediately went to let's fucking pad the next one and kept it that way until they fully entered fanfiction territory.
Christian Diaz
nice blog faggot
why the fuc would i care that u told ur cus they killed everyone
Aiden Lee
">they killed everyone, they killed everyone" and started to look at the wall thinking, really couldn't believe
Colton Miller
Then why the fuck respond u fucking nerd
Dominic Taylor
I agree. Tearing her face up, that was when it was almost too hard to keep reading. Then killing a dude with down syndrome, and then having the LS reveal at the end of season 4. I know most Sup Forums fags hate LS, but with the way she was described to look it would have been ghastly af. All of that would have really cemented it.
>It hurts so much, she thought. Our children, Ned, all our sweet babes. Rickon, Bran, Arya, Sansa, Robb . . . Robb . . . please, Ned, please, make it stop, make it stop hurting . . . the white tears and the red ones ran together until her face was torn and tattered, the face that Ned had loved. Catelyn Stark raised her hands and watched the blood run down her long fingers, over her wrists, beneath the sleeves of her gown. Slow red worms crawled along her arms and under her clothes. It tickles. That made her laugh until she screamed. "Mad," someone said, "she's lost her wits," and someone else said, "Make an end," and a hand grabbed her scalp just as she'd done with Jinglebell, and she thought, No, don't, don't cut my hair, Ned loves my hair. Then the steel was at her throat, and its bite was red and cold.
Nathaniel Jones
imagine being so booty blasted by sam hyde that you save a picture of some literal who from a new years special nobody watched until they realized what an embarrassment it was to post on an anonymous image board in hopes he might see it
K Y S MY MAN
Jacob Cruz
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Wyatt Cox
What? I like Sam Hyde, that's just a random reaction image I chose. Why is your brain so fucked up?
John Myers
>What was your reaction at this scene (if you didn't know the spoilers) at the time? I was so fucking disturbed. It by far was the biggest shock in a tv show ever
Grayson Allen
I stopped watching the show, not because of the red wedding itself, but because of how the next season they were advertising the DVDs with special features of people's reactions to the red wedding. It basically solidified my belief that the show was an aimless, amoral mess. >lol check out these guys as they freak out over a fifth of the cast getting murdered lmao To be fair, the showrunners may have not had any control over that, and it was marketing who was responsible.
Gabriel Adams
>Imagine the social media outrage if it aired today Same with how did they have that scene of Joffrey killing the prostitute?
That surely would not be allowed to air today
Thomas Ward
Read the book, so knew it was coming, but I walked away from the book after that chapter for about a week and a half because I was pissed off about it.
Daniel Rodriguez
it was only 5 years ago not 20
Eli Bell
I knew OF the red wedding, but didn't know what it was at all. I got super anxious the episode before when Tyrion and Sansa were wed, and during the watch warned my girlfriend that bad times were coming. When nothing happened, I was relieved--then the next episode was another wedding and got anxious again.
Jonathan Evans
because you're a big ol fag
Grayson Fisher
>it was only 5 years ago not 20 and you do realize they have stopped nudity pretty much as well as given all female characters control?
My point: only 5 years ago and so much has changed.
No way would a dead woman being killed like this be allowed to air now in the show
Xavier Carter
>when the hound landed his axe on arya I closed the book and didn't read it for a week.
Ethan Davis
Ned's death was far less impactful in the book compared to the Red Wedding because it was shown from Arya's perspective so you didn't actually see the death happening because she was getting jostled around in the chaos.
Granted, Robb was a very underdeveloped character in the book so his death wasn't particularly impactful either, but losing Catelyn was a blow because she was very well developed. On the bright side she does get resurrected in the book, unlike in the show.
All in all, these surprise deaths are certainly ballsy, but then you realize he killed the characters who were capable of actually moving the plot ahead and you realize that's why he takes so long on his books. Because he wrote himself into a corner and had no idea what to do.
Kevin Bennett
the way euron killed the sneks was pretty gruesome
Samuel Brown
This. The show's most offensive male character literally took out a boat of 5 female characters.
Sebastian Hughes
But it was the Sharks that needed the army
Asher Hall
I actually loved that scene. That bitch ruined everything! Robb would still be alive if it wasnt for her.
I thought it was meh. Robb dying sucked but it didnt impact me as hard as Ned. I thought it was funny when cat got her throat slit because it was just awkward, not to mention how silly it looked
Sebastian Roberts
>I always had the inkling that Jon was really the main character the whole time What a dumb reaction, there is no "real main character" in this series. That's why he keeps killing off all these characters that people think are the main character. Hell, he killed Jon too, and Jon was only brought back to life because they ran out of material and decided to make the plot super generic.
Blake Roberts
>hating on the autist >not liking more van alden
Show only went to true shit in the last season and thats due to them being told to wrap it up.
Brody Foster
"holy shit i can't believe that happened this show is breaking all the rules of TV!" now ask me for my reaction to CIA's death