can someone please fill me in on why valerian wasn't more watched?
>story seems original
>while the male main character didn't seem like a fit he did grow on me during the movie
>Luc Besson
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Can someone please fill me in on why valerian wasn't more watched?
It looks like a watered down version of The Fifth Element with unlikable characters to me.
I can see where you're coming from but I really enjoyed it, can't really remember any moments that seemed boring to me,but then again I might just be alcoholized
to add on this, while the characters were less likable than in fifth element, they weren't hatable, at least not in my opinion
It was barely marketed. Like barely. No one knows dick about the IP and they didn't hype this film nearly enough.
Valerian and Laureline had weak chemistry. I blame this mostly on Valerian. The actor did grow on me throughout the movie, but overall I think he was miscast. I think it would have reviewed better with someone else in the drivers seat. Laurelines casting was fine.
All that being said, I fucking loved it anyway. I do believe it is going to become a classic like The Fifth Element did. Didn't Fifth also tank in theaters? Makes me a bit sad, because there are A LOT of good stories that could be told here, and because it didn't do so well for a theatrical release it seems unlikely that we will see Valerian and Laureline returning to the big screen.
OP here, miscast is putting it mildly
as said, while he did grow on me, he seemed tired all the time, must've been the rings under his eyes.
I really hope it takes off down the line, I feel like it could really be an entry into the older ones that Luc made
just have to wait and see if it reaches cult film status
I think it will take off down the line for sure, because at its heart it really is a great film. Visually stunning, engaging, and overall fun. Sure the plot gets a little muddy and almost forgotten at a few points, but overall it worked. I really do believe casting Dane Dehaan was a mistake. Cara Delevingne carried her weight surprisingly well and pulled off Laureline great. Dane however, just can't be Valerian. His acting is not up to par, he comes across as very dry, bland, and boring. The interactions between him and Cara always come out awkward because he just can't pull it off. This just wasn't his movie, and I really think that it hurt early reviews way more than people even realize. He pulled the rest of the movie down with him. I was excited before I ever even saw a preview, so it was a bit different for me. I know the source material and really wanted to see it in a live adaptation. I am not the norm though. It was easier for me to overlook this, where as most reviewers have no fucking clue that a comic even existed before they looked it up shortly after watching the movie or the night before watching it. They have no connection, and the film was never marketed with any reference to the source material at all so I can't really blame them.
All in all I did really enjoy it despite Dane sucking. I know a lot of others did too, so I think it will gain traction and hit that cult film status. I would have loved to see it crush the box office though.
WTF is up with that ugly ass back tattoo? Doesn't angelina have similar bullshit?
>Didn't Fifth also tank in theaters?
Nope, it was a box office success and word of mouth helped it out a lot. The critics were initially divided on it but they came around eventually.
I loved it desu
1.) Not disney
2.) Not Marvelquip
3.) Not nostalgic
4.) Sci-fi
5.) Ugly leads
1/5 apply yourself next time
one thing really though, it felt like the movie was skipping a lot of scenes, especially around the early-mid game with us learning that the mül citizens being called pearls especially
While I can see merits in the movie, for braid appeal there are several missteps. While watching the ISS expand and age bright and year to my eyes (we're just not lucky enough to get government's caring about space travel again for a long while), we sit through an extended animated feature with little to no dialog. The average audience needs to know why they should care about Navi 2.0 if they're going to sit and watch then flit around for 15 minutes.
The big grey elephant in the room that hurts those that can sit through the eye candy is why laureline dreams with valerian's shit. If we don't see any redeeming qualities about him besides that she thinks he's hot, the average audience then can't see the chemistry. The audience was never sold on why they should like Valerian or laureline so they never can get invested in their story.
Lastly I think Besson joins my list of directors that should never get a big budget. They wind up worrying too much about what they can do with a larger budget instead of why they're needing the larger budget in the first place. This is a little off my own personal projection of watching detectors worry about fixing a movie in post instead of focusing on getting the pre-production work right.
bitches, user, bitches and whores
>While watching the ISS expand and age bright and year to my eyes (we're just not lucky enough to get government's caring about space travel again for a long while), we sit through an extended animated feature with little to no dialog
honestly I enjoyed this section the most, even if the cinema crew made me think it was a trailer
Because Cara is box office poison and no one likes here
>Lastly I think Besson joins my list of directors that should never get a big budget.
the reasons you said, pretty much
Is that Loco Bandito the Live Action Series?
delete this
>mfw
>male protaganist looks like a nu-male pussy faggot
>"stronk womyn" female protaganist looks like a tranny
>French
They fucked up the casting. Not only is Cara ugly, she's also unable to act: smirking and standing around looking ugly isn't acting.
She even somehow managed to make DeHaan act shitty in this movie. The movie itself is ok, but no movie can't be good if the lead actors are miscast and this movie is the exemplar of bad casting.
Also, Luc Besson fucked up the script and changed a few things about the main characters for no reason. Fuck him!
Would unironically wait for the ensuing shitstorm if it was ever adapted.
>muh ironic racism
>>French
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She's so ugly and thus totally miscast as Laureline.
Also, firednly reminder
>Her godfather is Condé Nast executive Nicholas Coleridge and her godmother is actress Joan Collins. Delevingne's maternal grandfather was publishing executive and English Heritage chairman Sir Jocelyn Stevens, the nephew of magazine publisher Sir Edward George Warris Hulton and the grandson of newspaper proprietor Sir Edward Hulton, 1st Baronet. Her paternal great-grandfather was the Canadian-born British politician Hamar Greenwood, 1st Viscount Greenwood, and her maternal grandmother Janie Sheffield was lady-in-waiting to Princess Margaret. Through one of her maternal great-great-grandfathers, Sir Lionel Lawson Faudel-Phillips, 3rd Baronet, Delevingne descends from the Anglo-Jewish Faudel-Phillips baronets; two of her ancestors on that line served as Lord Mayor of London.
Grade A nepotism.
for me? the trailer was as bland and generic as it could possibly be, the universe was just "sci-fi" with no quirks or anything really
I got strong jupiter ascending vibes and I fucking hated that film
>ugly
she has a tattoo that says "Be Happy"
You're right. VERY ugly.
well my dads nickname was ugly how about you go kill yourself
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>Finds her attractive
>Afterwards writes comment that makes no sense
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What went wrong you ask?
>numerous gratuitous scenes that didn't move the story forward and went for too long, e.g. Rhianna porno dancing
>poor character exposition and development, why the fuck were Valerian and the girl so important to begin with and why did they act as if they were playing a video game on god mode? Was that supposed to be self aware irony?
>crappy editing, switching to yet more gratuitous shit that didn't really matter which made things drag on
I was literally happy when it finally ended, kind of annoying because the story's universe had a lot of potential and now it won't get a sequel.
while I guess I shouldn't have entered this exchange while shitfaced, I somehow have the feeling that you're projecting your own failures upon the actor, even if she had a few bad moments, mainly speaking of the scream scene
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>Rhianna porno dancing
>mfw that entire sequence
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>more watched
Fuck off. I would un-watch it if I could.