Europe's 'unfair' Apple tax ruling sparks US anger

>There has been widespread criticism in the US of the European Commission's ruling that Apple should pay up to €13bn (£11bn) in back taxes.

>The US Treasury said that such tax investigations were "unfair" and undermined the tax rules of individual states.

>Charles Schumer, a senior Democrat senator, called the move a "cheap money grab".
The White House said the ruling could cost US taxpayers.

>White House spokesman Josh Earnest argued that if Apple paid the back taxes, it might offset that amount against tax due in the United States, which would be unfair for American taxpayers.

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Is there anymore evidence needed that the US government is run by corporations?

>Pay us that tax money you owe
>OMG UNFAIR

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Why are taxpayers going to be affected by this? Apple is a private company.

The argument by Josh Earnest is that if apple pay the tax they owe in Europe, they wont pay the tax they owe in the US.

They won't pay the tax they owe in the US anyway.

why do they "owe" you the money? what did europe do again?

might i remind you that it's a bit hypocritical to complain about "taxes owed" while buying cheap, slave labor products?

Because they've not paid their corporation tax which every company has to pay by law.

>sparks US anger
Oh gee what ever should we do now

This.

Companies like apple and Amazon abuse every loophole there is for profit while leeching what ever they can from states they operate.

Many European companies are no different and we need more stuff like Panama papers and lux leaks to reveal all the bullshit.

why should they have to pay for your immigration crisis? merkel opened the flood gates.

Wasn't the whole point of being in ireland so they'd owe us almost nothing tax wise anyway?

>$1 has been added to your apple account

PAY JIZYA

If Apple paid the right tax every year, Ireland could fund it's healthcare entirely from apples tax.

They've been paying literally no tax here for years due to a special deal with our shit politicians. I reckon I've paid more taxes than apple has.

Fuck Apple and every other LLC/corporation that think they can squeak by from same tax haven or loophole.

They can pay the taxes in Ireland and then pay again in the US. In full. That's how taxes are SUPPOSED to work.

>Is there anymore evidence needed that the US government is run by corporations?

>Class warfare
There is nothing wrong with a company exploiting the stupidity of foreigners for its own benefit. I only find problems when they exploit Americans.

Chuck (((Schumer))) calling out a money grab is fucking rich.

Translate 'If we can't have it you can't have it either'

so why should the strong have to hold the weak up?

Apple managed to succeed fair and square, and it took a lot of hard work

I hope Apple tells the (((EU))) to go fuck themselves, or move to a county that actually appreciates business

>Apple managed to succeed fair and square, and it took a lot of hard work

Because companies don't succeed in a bubble.

>"hey apple, move hear and you don't have to pay high taxes" - Scotland
"ok" - Apple
>10 years later
>"Apple pay Scotland 12 billion dollars in taxes" - EU
>"but we don't want their money" - Scotland
>"shut up goy and take their shekels" - EU

first off this sets a bad precedent with retroactive taxation and if anyone is at fault it's Scotland for having an "illegal" tax law

tl'dr EU can go fuck itself

>scotland

youtube.com/watch?v=naQCHlyMxUg

>retroactive taxation
>precedent

boy do i have news for you

EU is just mad because they didn't win any olympic medals.

fine pay up Apple.

Shit company anyways.

This.

US Politician paid by taxpayers, supposed to work for taxpayers, protecting US company that doesnt contribute taxes.

I don't even care whether it's right or wrong, seeing Apple getting BTFO of billions is simply amusing.

Let's hope the EU is good for something once and doesn't let the US talk them out of it.

EU shits on the sovereignty of ireland and that's supposed to be a good thing. Paul has really gone to shit. Hey, remember to yell at niggers.

>Charles Schumer, a senior Democrat senator, called the move a "cheap money grab".

he's a fucking kike senator from Jew York for goodness sake.

Fuck em. I hope shut like this happens to every tech company. They deserve it for abusing the HBN1 visa program is to undercut American labor

I like the governments stance on this. Apple struck a deal with a (((sovereign))) nation and then the EU wants to come in and override that? This is the most anti globalist thing the Hussein admin has ever done

>schumer

As if the democrats haven't spent the last I dnno, 100 fucking years doing cheap cash grabs?

Oh, but Apple should pay American taxes. Don't they have like 40b offshore?

tbqh irs should raid their buildings

Let me guess... an Indian took over your job huh?

Why did the USA drag german companies like Volkswagen and Deutsche Bank into their courts and selectively punished them, and only them, for 'crimes' that the american companies committed too?

It's high time the EU draws the line in the sand. Since TTIP is dead and buried, it's now time to drop the diplomatic niceties.

You wanna exploit and destroy european companies? Then we shall retribute in kind.

So they didn't pay the shameless-bullshit-socialist-cash-grab tax.

Good. And fuck Eurotrash.

Why should the get that money? What do those governments do to deserve it?

Bring more mudslimes in to blow up its citizens?

Yeah.............

Not paying taxes is how the Greeks ended up where they are today.

>tfw the consumer economy is closer to death everyday
>governments are willing to let companies pay zero taxes just to keep pumping out products
W E W

Dumbass. Ireland gave them tax breaks. Now the EU says the tax breaks are illegal.
The EU is fucking over Ireland, because Apple will just move out and take their jobs with them. And guess what, they probably wont bring any of those jobs to an EU country.

Ireland granted them the tax breaks dumbass.

Lol not the same at all but ok.

No, it's so they can tax people. You can't tax the unemployed, who actually cost you tax money. And corporate taxes are paid by consumers anyway.

Wouldn't signing an import agreement to create products that meet emission standards and then designing your products to not only fail emissions standards, but cheat on emissions tests, be a blatant breach of contract?

Are you suggesting the EU goes full China and ensures that contracts with foreign companies are essentially unenforceable?

>euro gommies using bully boy tactics

Not surprised Tbh

Well, maybe Ireland should not have joined the EU :^)

Anyways, how many jobs Apple even provides? How does those jobs compare to those taxes they dont provide? What if every country/continent actually started to ask for taxes these global companies are should to pay. Where would these companies go, Africa?

There were no jobs, and no office. Apple existed in Ireland on paper only

T. I know nothing

I hope Apple brings down the EU.

Under US tax law, foreign tax credits are very strong. Basically if you paid a tax to another country it is a full US write off. No loopholes or special accountant and lawyers needed.

>EU law supersedes Irish law
wew

On the other hand fuck Apple

>corporate taxes are paid by consumers anyway
Are you such a slave you wouldn't go to a less expensive competitor just because of brand loyalty? Not every company needs to hoard a trillion dollars in cash reserves...

>There has been widespread criticism in the US of the European Commission's ruling that Apple should pay up to €13bn (£11bn) in back taxes.
>The US Treasury said that such tax investigations were "unfair" and undermined the tax rules of individual states.
>>Charles Schumer, a senior Democrat senator, called the move a "cheap money grab".
>The White House said the ruling could cost US taxpayers.
>White House spokesman Josh Earnest argued that if Apple paid the back taxes, it might offset that amount against tax due in the United States, which would be unfair for American taxpayers.
bbc.co.uk/news/business-37226101

>AYYYOOOO HOL UP

>SO U BE SAYIN

>WE HAVE TO PAY TAXS N SHEIT?

let me just drop this information for anyone defending apple
>Workers assembling iPhones, iPads and other devices often labor under harsh conditions, according to employees inside the Foxconn plants. According to company reports and advocacy, Apple's suppliers in China have improperly disposed of hazardous waste and falsified records
>Forty-nine young men and women were poisoned at the Lianjian Technology factory in Suzhou Industrial Park by the toxic chemical hexane, used to wipe clean the iPad display screens and speed up efficiency.
>To save money, the factory did not provide proper ventilation during the cleaning process, and workers developed neurological problems, the loss of motor function, numb limbs, and complained of constantly fainting and being overcome by a debilitating fatigue. Some of these sick workers were eventually bought off with a lump payment of 8,000 or 9,000 yuan (US$1,200–$1,400), but only after signing an agreement stating they would not bring claims against Apple or its supplier companies in the future
>An explosion in May 2011 at a Foxconn iPad factory in Chengdu, China, killed four people and injured 18. Employees worked excessive overtime—in some cases, seven days a week—and lived in crowded dorms. Some said they stand so long that their legs swell until they can hardly walk

>both Apple and Foxconn rely on Chinese workers to perform 12-hour working days to meet demand, the costs of Chinese labor in processing and assembly are insignificant in the overall commercial success of Apple

>pioneer of the taxing tactic in the late 80's "Double Irish With a Dutch Sandwich", which reduces taxes by routing profits through Irish subsidiaries and the Netherlands and then to the Caribbean
>in 2013 Tim Cook defended these techniques at a Senate hearing
continue

This is it. This is what brings down the EU. Woah

> in 2008, Apple repair centers began to refuse to honor warranties of its products which had been used in an environment it deemed hazardous, i.e., that had been used around someone who smokes
in 2009, Apple refused to honor its warranty and replace a defective battery on a machine that had a small amount of unrelated cosmetic damage that did not affect the machine's functionality, nor that of its battery
>Apple fails to update its products with security updates in a timely fashion. An example of this was a security flaw in Sun Microsystems's Java, which Sun fixed promptly, while Apple took more than five months to distribute the fix. That is much longer than other companies, and drew sharp criticism from experts and journalists.A recent example is a malware product called MacDefender, MacProtector, MacSecurity, or MacGuard, which is an application that can be installed in OS X by the user; ZDNet's Microsoft Blogger Ed Bott estimates that it has been installed by 60,000 to 120,000 Mac customers who thought it was legitimate anti-virus software

Either way, the kikes win goddamnit and we lose

They were given the fucking tax break by Ireland. What the fuck part of this do you not understand?

I'm all for the EU taking their money, fuck Apple anyway and their legionaries. Did they really think they were never going to pay up someday? Idiots.

Well, maybe Ireland should have stayed independent and not join the EU.

>Are you such a slave you wouldn't go to a less expensive competitor just because of brand loyalt
Wut? I assume you are changing the subject because that has nothing to do with taxation.

Because you are all for the EU usurping Ireland's right to rule itself.

One group of globalist kikes jewing another group of globalist kikes.

Ireland willingly surrendered their sovereignty to the EU. They can leave the union at any time.

Can't Apple just sue Ireland for making them a deal that didn't last? Maybe Apple could even argue Ireland did it on purpose and that Ireland knew/should have known that EU would not accept the tax deal...

Fuck 'em all. They're just passing money around among themselves anyway.

They can afford to pay way more in taxes without hurting the company at all, they're just greedy. You making excuses for them is unpatriotic.

Maybe if the TTIP would have passed.

This is why corporate taxes should just be replaced with a VAT. Fuck these kikes and their tax avoidance schemes.

But Apple made the deal with Ireland, not the EU. This isn't Apple's problem.

It's stipulated in contracts. If they don't like shameless-bullshit-socialist-cash-grab taxes they can go somewhere else

All this corporate inversions and tax haven bullshit really kills the globalization, one-world-government Alex Jones theory. Why the fuck would the "elites" want to normalize tax codes and corporate laws so there'd be no where to run?

Still underrated. Good luck getting those jewbux, Europoors. Please fuck over Apple for us.

t. Burger trying to wash his pants from a wal-mart accident

apples symbol is just a giant jizz stain

Tax break was illegal according to EU commission. Anti-competitive indirect corporate subsidies.

You would be surprised how much EU fucks up with member states in name of free competition. For example old time weapons deals with offset trade deals are illegal inside EU. US companies and government can offer offset trades in weapons deals with European countries.

It's not stated in Apples contract. Apple has no contract with the EU. Apple has no trade deal with the EU. What do need explained to you?

Apple agressivly avoid being taxed for there selling there products across the EU by pretending to be an Irish company who they make a sweetheart tax deal with...selling products they they produce in China so they do not have to pay American workers wages.
America attack the EU for trying to do something about it....it took the EU 20 years to do anything about this.
I'd love to hear an actual logical counter to the simplicity of this.

You haven't studied this at all, have you? Check out how much Francois Hollande and his fellow party members pay in tax.

Apple would then of had no reason to make the deal in the first place..Apple have been using the single market to avoid tax in the rest of the EU.

I dont know what happened, but Apple could also be responsible. It would be totally Ireland fault it invited Apple, but then again Ireland is part of EU, not sure which of them should check that they follow EU laws. But if Apple proposed deal or played some part in planning how the tax deal should go, then Apple is also to blaim.

>Tax break was illegal according to EU commission
And that makes it Apple's problem how? Ireland is on the hook for the EU taxes it chose not to levy.

>multi-billion-dollar quarters
>0.0005% in taxes
laff

>everyone who takes a stand on their principles is doing so because some street shitter took their job
yeah no

Ireland is part of the EU and the Eu has such legislations. They should have known better instead of trying to avoid paying taxes and hoping no one would notice

sorry, 0.005%.
Wouldn't want to spread lies.

Apple has no responsibility or liability to the EU.

It's going to be interesting if Apple have to pay up all it's back taxes...facebook and intel also use the same trick in Ireland and Holland...How much will the EU funding burden will then hit the Irish/Dutch economies.

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That's not Apples problem. That's Ireland's problem.

They have no responsibility(although there PR would take a gigantic hit...as it is at the mo')
They certainly have liability, otherwise they would not have had to aggressively avoid taxes.

That's my point. What good would it be for them to make their Lichtenstein and Andorra bank accounts under the same laws as that govern the peasants?

They didn't have to aggressively avoid taxes. They literally had to do nothing. Ireland granted them a tax break. I'm done repeating myself. Some of you people are obviously idiots.

Yup. The EU will lose some business now
I'm not an expert on EU law, but if Ireland didn't ask for the due taxes, isn't it an EU responsability to do so?
Doesn't the EU have the power to enforce treaties if they are not repsected?

they sold things in Europe? I mean, it's just a fucking guess, user.

It's not a treaty. It's not even a trade deal. The EU is claiming authority to levy taxes on member state corporations and individuals.

And so sales tax was paid...right?

99% of Wall Street consists of private companies but the taxpayers bail them out routinely. Apple, as the world's largest technology company, will doubtless be lumped in with those financial businesses which are "too large to fail".

Also, as far as Ireland and Apple were concerned, there were no "due taxes" to collect for the EU. As far as both are concerned, the EU is butting into their affairs. This is Irelands fault for not properly knowing what responsibilities and freedoms they owed/gave up to the EU. Apple has no responsibility here.

>Wall Street
>STOCK EXCHANGE
>private company

Not the way things are done south of the border amigo.

The EU is sticking its jew schnoz in our tax affairs

I Apple Bad to pay the right tax the wouldn't be in Irland