“Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of humankind…our schoolbooks glorify war and hide its horrors. They inculcate hatred in the veins of children. I would teach peace rather than war. I would inculcate love rather than hate.” -- Carl Sagan
Thoughts?
>I would rather teach love than hate
Define love
Define hate
>protip:ur a fag
No one ever won a fight by being the fuckin nice guy carl you loser fuck off
>Sagan was also a vocal advocate of the controversial notion of testosterone poisoning, arguing in 1992 that human males could become gripped by an "usually severe [case of] testosterone poisoning" and this could compel them to become genocidal.[62] In his review of Moondance magazine writer Daniela Gioseffi's 1990 book Women on War, he argues that females are the only half of humanity "untainted by testosterone poisoning".[63] One chapter of his 1993 book, Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors is dedicated to testosterone and its alleged poisonous effects.
(((he))) is just jewing
Science Jews are still Jews apparently.
Fp is indeed bp
my god, he is a fag
That was Einstein, but regardless, both are hypocritical Zionist kikes.
If Sagan was alive today he'd do a 180° on Nationalism faster than Richard Dawkins did on Christianity.
>Writes a book about space exploration
>It's Sagan's passion
>National Socialists built rockets, headed NASA and USSR space programs
>Nationalism is bad
I wonder how he explained that to himself
What a cuck
Let's look at his faith and family heretiage for echos
yeah, but he held the same beliefs
>“National boundaries are not evident when we view the Earth from space. Fanatical ethnic or religious or national chauvinisms are a little difficult to maintain when we see our planet as a fragile blue crescent fading to become an inconspicuous point of light against the bastion and citadel of the stars.”
Gotta agree with fp. What does he mean by love and hate? Is it okay to hate "white supremacists"? Most self-righteous cucks would say "yes", but in reality understand that some must suffer if they truly want an agenda to go through.
Oh, also check em
Whoah thats like, what Jesus would say, man. He must be Jesus reborn.
Peace and love can not fight violence and hate, only die to it.
Peace and love is nice, but only if everyone, world wide, wants that. If any one nation or group does not, then peace and love is just a death trap, making their overthrow of the worlds systems easier as there is no resistance.
holy shit lol
He had a sister, Carol, and the family lived in a modest apartment near the Atlantic Ocean, in Bensonhurst, a Brooklyn neighborhood. According to Sagan, they were Reform Jews, the most liberal of North American Judaism's four main groups. Both Sagan and his sister agreed that their father was not especially religious, but that their mother "definitely believed in God, and was active in the temple ... and served only kosher meat."[7]:12 During the depths of the Depression, his father worked as a theater usher.
When people refer to the "problems" of nationalism they're usually referring to WWI.
Nationalism also lead to the rise of NASA and the Space Race.
Didn't he already half realize how insane the people have become without nationalism and religion keeping their destructive tendencies in check?
I remember a few notable incidents when he came really close to saying something like that, and seemed to have at least come to see it as a possibility, if not outright accepting it.
He died before he could see what happens when you spread love and equality to low-IQ animals who can't return the favor.
Spreading love and peace is good for intelligent human beings. If you do the same for you-know-which-races-of-people, it just becomes welfare gibmuhdats and crime and disease.
Sagan is a great teacher and has an outstanding talent for presenting science in a way that leaves you intrigued.
He's also so liberal that it hurts to hear him talk about politics and societal philosophy.
STOP SLANDERING THE PROPHET ASSHOLE!
I WILL CUT OFF DAWKIN'S HEAD!
Nationalism does inculcate love.
>I have an opinion about a political concept
>I have no data to back up my belief
>but you should accept my belief because I'm knowledgeable in a completely unrelated field
His opinion on this particular matter is as useless as an uneducated redneck's. He has no data to support his point, and instead uses insults as a form of argument.
>That nose
Could it be?
He was right about the peace and war thing though, aggressive wars should be most avoided with Nationalism ideology, unless you are directly freeing your people.
>"Since Carl Sagan's mother was Jewish, and in Judaism one's religion is based on one's mother's religion, then that makes him also Jewish. His father was Jewish too."
DING DING DING
>implying i'm not the reincarnation of carl sagan but redpill
Love and tolerance is all fine and dandy until some other people or nationality invade your nation and start killing your people off.
Then you wise up real fucking fast.
Humans are little better than savage animals. No matter how you dress it up or perfume it, we are one disaster or war away from going full primal.
another person I respected. RUINED BY Sup Forums.
This is like something Jahans would have said.
>saying "inculcate" instead of just teach
Typical fedora.
"I don't care what TV science man thinks about politics" -- Reasonable Person
I thought Einstein said that?
Globalist shills can't even get their inspirational quotes images correct.
Carl (((SAGAN)))
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Am I the only Sup Forums poster that wouldn't fuck his mom?
Carl Sagan wasn't as smart as he thought he was and assumed because he was a scientist that his starry eyed dreams of everyone holding hands and singing kumbaya were logical and entirely doable if people would just stop being big meanieheads
>people need a reason to make war
Lol, as a god denying atheist he should recognize that man started on this earth with no borders or cultures and yet for millennia we've waged war. Because we fucking like it lol.
sagan is a saint, you fucking faggot
Sagan should have understood you can't fight nature especially human nature.
Nationalism, Socialism, Communism: owning companies, owning apartments + having free Socialistic block apartment, owning land, have control over your women with state propaganda
Capitalism: not owning companies, renting apartments, not owning land, renting women
>but nationalism is gassing jew innocents
No, anti-nationalism is giving everything to international Jewish elite so you run hamster wheel until death.
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How do you think the US becoming a Hispanic majority in ~2060 will affect the space program?
>actively tries to dismantle and "educate" our already moral less and materialistic youth
>get scared when this becomes a gateway for Islam to take a hold and fill the void in a pussified society
>hey guys.... Christianity was actually good for something....
>t.Sheltered nerd who never left all white college campuses
in the grand scheme of things, nothing matters. Our species will one day become extinct, our star will die, and the universe will collapse in on itself. Why then should we cling to petty morality?
Because it fucking works, and I assume we'd be worse off without it.
So we are going to fly to another galaxy to buy clean water? I guess that will cost even more than bottled water. Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to simply not pollute water and to not sell all water to international elite?
>the launch of a vagina shaped craft doesn't work
>woooooow physics is sexist
shame we all have to be so different. There can never be equality peace or progress if our races are inherently different.
The moment whites become endangered, the moment Europe and US falls, the moment western civilization falls, civilization as we know it will not exist. The day you whites die is the day "humanity", the " human race", dies.
Space travel? Pfft, space travel is the ultimate white privilege. You think kikes, spics, niggers, Arabs, chinks and gooks will do it? Not in any way.
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middle income yid from New York thinks he understands the world better than the uneducated plebs.
>it's another "guy comments on stuff he's absolutely not qualified to comment on and yet retards still take him seriously" episode
everyone itt needs to fuck off
The spaceships will look like (pic related).
>meme scientist arguing against evolution with feels
w e w f u c k i n g l a d
No one is perfect, even such an unassailable nice guy as Sagan. The man was an unabashed optimist.
He sent our critical information into the void knowing that any relevant intelligence would already know more about us than our little probe could ever give them, for the hope it would give the public.
He made his work trying to band the world together against the uncaring universe in the midst of the cold war. You need to respect him for his love of humanity and forgive his lack of understanding for basic human nature.
If you're anti-war, someone will bring the war to you. I'd rather be jingoist and offensive than a neutral pussy sitting out, waiting to be invaded
I feel this way too
most christians are cuck faggots who love shitskins
He's a jew.
> war was fomented by globalist (((bankers))) and politicians to destroy european nations
> every nationalists back then were for peace
> "MUH NATIONALIZM IS WARRR HURR DURRRRRRR"
Fuck I hate these retards.
I, for one, welcome our new lowered Impala overlords.
I hope they brought extra tacos.
Brainwashed millions with theoretical paintings and CGI charading as "science".
Cosmos fucking sucks man. Not a single actual photo or video.
"As we speak, billions and billions of THC molecules are connecting to my synapses, giving me an intense buzz."-Carl Sagan
>First we killed everything that wasn't us
>Then we killed everything that wasn't family
>Then we killed everything that wasn't our tribe
>Then we killed everything that wasn't our city/province/region
>Then we killed everything that wasn't our nation
>Then we killed everything that wasn't our ideology
Every step we took was an incredibly important step on a ladder. The idea that you can climb to the next rung, but take away the previous rungs is retarded.
I was thinking this too
((((((Sagan))))))
u reel?
>this isn't even funny anymore
Sup Forums was right again
I'd agree with Sagan's vision, but "human world peace" can only be achieved if ALL nations are respected, meaning that ALL of them can protect and preserve their cultures, religions, languages, art, and even race.
Though the early Muslim societies of the past have contributed much to the myriad sciences of astronomy, medicine, and engineering they have fallen far below their fellows in the community we call Earth. Their modern leadership calls only for nothing more than jingoist expansion of their ill-conceived theocracy. If we are to make our way amongst the stars, we must remove this kebab from our way of thinking, and prevent it from growing in our hard-won secular and tolerant societies of the West.
For what use do oil barons have of Mars, Proxima Centauri, or the billions and billions of motes among the void that have never harbored life before us?
This man is responsible for Black Meme Scientist's career.
He basically admitted that Sagan used affirmative action and picked him to work with him over more qualified people.
Sagan truly was ahead of his time on the cuck scale.
And yet all our best tools to explore the universe were invented in times of war. You're welcome Carl Sagan.
>what is r/atheism
>what is Atheism+
He without sin casts the first stone.
Carl Sagan was intelligent but ignorant about the heritability of cognitive and behavioral traits.
People like Dawkins and Pinker "touched" on it.
>implying nationalism means going to war all the time
>implying nationalism is against immigration so long as you assimilate and adapt to the culture
>implying nationalism can not live in harmony with other nations while simultaneously wanting to be the best in science, mathematics, and art
My thoughts are Carl Sagan is a faggot
USSR and US LOVED the rockets, that's why they worked.
>Judaism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of humankind
He was smoking some good shit.
i love sagan but watch his debates in washington in the 80's regarding nuclear defense and you realize he's an idealist. this post will get lost in the noise here, but i mean it if you really want to understand his pov
>My thoughts are Carl Sagan is a faggot
Liberal faggots think of jingoism and then call it nationalism.
I'm glad he's dead
A lot of people here are underage stormfaggots, so they didn't grow up with Cosmos like most of us oldfags. They see the guy was a Jew, disregard his opinion and go back to shitposting about niggers.
You have to understand, Carl grew up and taught astronomy in a time where nuclear war was a definite possibility. Nationalism irked him because he was a man of deep insight, a "big picture" kind of guy. Yes, he was a liberal, but he had no notions of forcing goyim to racemix through media, or trying to control them - actually, he was above all of that and didn't really care for most politics at all, his love was in science - real, hard science, not Bill Nye or Neil Tyson pop science, this man was an actual academic and researcher first and a TV show personality second.
He has a far deeper philosophical perspective of the human race and its purposes than most people here, because he simply knows more than most people here. So I guess you can go on saying he was a faggot kike that was completely naive to the way the world works, and you're the guy who knows how it goes down, how we need nationalism to survive. But you'll never be taken seriously anywhere, especially not compared to Sagan, because you're not even thinking on the same wavelength the guy did. You just want to squabble over your petty slab of clay and protect your own specific brand of tribe of the human race - Sagan was worried about humanity's future, all of humanity, and not just the endangered species that is white blue-eyed blonde-haired /fit/ Aryan ubermensch that many of you personally masturbate to.
youtube.com
2 hrs but very good. respect to anyone interested
sagan does not prevail in my own opinion
Of course he's an idealist
All lefties are, as they think the state will always be benevolent and working for the greater good
lets be honest sagan would be a nationalist now if he was still alive
I agree with you, but you're being a massive faggot about it.
The original Cosmos is one of the movie collections I keep on hand for my kids, mind you.
Yup, I don't think he'd like the kind of Global Government they want to shove down our throats. He aimed for a star trek-like utopia, not a degenerate corporate-ruled dystopia.
>Peace and love can not fight violence and hate, only die to it.
Peace and love NEVER die to violence and hate, we can defeat violence and hate with peace and love in our heart and a sword in our hand. Tough love is often the best type of love. Nationalism is okay, but ONLY if we realise its place in the grand scheme of things and remember who and what we REALLY ARE - Infinite Consciousness. Also, Carl Sagan The Space Man is based as fuck. His 'Pale Blue Dot' speech is more moving than a parade.
I wasn't trying to defend Dawkins, I have no problem with atheism but making a career out of it (like he did) is worse than fucking Televangelists.
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This. Daily reminder that Carl Sagan was actually a based Jew who was anti-Zionist and anti-globalist.
Roo-rawdogger up with some rare truths.
>Anti-globalist
>Hated Nationalism
explain yourself
He can go post-humously fuck himself
>I love pov
>be yung Carl Sagan
>hear about all the cool astronauts and cosmonauts
>meh
>somebody shows me a picture of a Saturn V
>instant hard-on
>so much potency in this column of power
>white foam everywhere
>tip contains highly sensitive receptors
>love the rocket
>no place for hate in my world
>only rocket blasts
>everybody should have a rocket
t. rocket boy
