卐 Thread for discussion of National Socialism, Fascism, Traditionalism, and European Identity Movements. >卐 - REPORT IN FOR YOUR NATION! >卐 - DENOUNCE THE SHILLS! >卐 - DRIVE OUT DEGENERACY!
We can't stop the white genocide: the illuminati is too powerful.
What we CAN do is help ourselves, and help each other, become successful, reliable, capable individuals who can afford a happy quality of life where we can raise healthy families. This is the best thing we can do for ourselves and the race.
Jonathan Cox
t. defeatist shill
Luis Green
>raise healthy families
We can do more than this but this is an imperative. We must all strive to have large families no matter our financial situation.
Hudson Mitchell
I'm not trying to depress you: I stating a fact, and giving you realistic, attainable goals that can benefit you and the race.
Do you even have any fucking idea what it means to unseat or replace the Illuminati? It can't be done, mate. It just can not be done.
If the Illuminati wanted to exterminate the white race, they have the power to do that. It would take a few generations, but it would happen. This is their world. WWII is not going to happen again, we're not going to get another Hitler. And even if we did get another Hitler, our chances would be worse now than they were then.
There's a flood coming: a brown flood. We need to stop deluding ourselves, and start working our assess of to climb as high up the pyramid as we can. That's the best way to help the white race right now.
Brandon Johnson
>Large
In the end there is a finite number of children that you can afford. No point in having 10 white kids, and then having them all drop out of highschool and move into a trailer park.
Quality over quantity mate.
Christopher Reyes
I'm genuinely interested in why you think NatSoc is still the best form of governing. Can you please explain this?
Jose Taylor
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Noah Moore
>afford
That is what they want you to think m8, Ahmed has 8 kids on welfare and they all live long lives having more and more children because they know that we will keep them alive and afloat. We have to get into this mindset, we have built societies with so many fallback measures a person can be deaf, dumb and blind and they can still live until old age. Your multiple children may resent you for not having the luxurious their peers do but family is more important than material goods and eventually your children will understand that.
>quality over quantity
This may be true but it doesn't help us. Having large families does and it should be the aim of all NatSocs.
Isaac Mitchell
>luxuries
Sebastian Thompson
he has no argument, he's just an edgy uniform fettishist
Alexander Perez
>NatSoc Vs Liberal Democracy
The prime objective of national socialism is to create a unified nation that strives for excellence and wherein the people support one another unconditionally.
This is inherently incompatible with democracy.
Democracy is a system that, by design, splits a nation into artifical factions that are in perpetual conflict with each other. Red vs Blue. Green vs Yellow. Etc.
Worse, the system inevitably devolves into corruption by an evolutionary process of sorts: The most successful parties and politicians will always be those that are the best at lying and manipulating the public (so as to get their votes) while actually serving the interests of those that give them the most "donations" (so as to fuel the next campaign of lies and manipulations). Some idealists will emerge, no doubt, but they simply cannot compete with a charismatic professional liar that is backed by connections to mass media.
National socialism seeks to destroy this system and replace it with a single, unified governing body that serves the peoples best interests as a matter of ideology (or, if all else fails, because the people would otherwise remove it).
No more lies, no more smear campaigns, no more empty promises never meant to be kept, no more endless arguments that never lead to action.
It combines two seemingly conflicting notions - the stark and stoic Nationalism with the subservient and altruistic Socialism - so that they may balance each other. The harshness of nationalism is softened by an imperative to help those in need. The weakness of socialism to exploitation is tempered with iron resolve and burning pride.
One nation. One state. From the people, for the people.
Isaac Williams
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Nicholas Cook
Nobody is arguing against nationalism, its the retarded socialist economy that is the issue
Ryan Powell
>family is more important than material goods
Money is power. The jews do not seek it avariciously for no reason. They are not stupid.
Strong families that are poor will be washed away by the powerful all the same. We need strong families that are also wealthy.
Liam Robinson
>卐 LOLOHOAX
Why do neo-Nazis go to such lengths to deny the holocaust?
If Hitler didn't plan or even attempt to ethnically cleanse the Jews and Eastern Europeans he would have been hypocritically to his own published believes and state ideology.
Jackson Green
hai i'm a qt socialist and was wondering if any of u would ever date someone like mee?
thx :3
Thomas Scott
>falling for the socialism meme >pic related
We must all do our part to support those in need obviously and the wealthy have some duty to lift their brothers and sisters up if they have fallen.
This is an interesting topic to think about m8. Hopefully we can have both.
>why do normies go to such lengths to protect a Jewish myth
Why m8, why?
Jaxson Powell
>>>>>>>>>>/lgbtbbq/
Where you belong
Ethan Baker
>why do normies go to such lengths to protect a Jewish myth
>why m8, why?
I don't think they do go to that much length, they're usually just aware most people who deny the holocaust are neo-Nazis.
I'm sympathetic to a great deal of Natsoc, but I still don't understand why people go to lengths with the holocaust denial conspiracies? It would only mean Hitler was a liar, hypocrite and pussy
Noah Russell
>deny the holohoax are neo-nazis
This just isn't true m8 and is another example of you accepting the kikes truth before doing actual research.
Go and check out David Cole (Jew) who destroys the gas chamber myth and then go and check out David Irving who's a WW2 historian who denies the Holocaust.
>a liar, hypocrite and pussy
What do you mean m8?
Jayden Torres
the holocaust is just a lie, and why would it mean hes a liar and pussy, he never said he wanted to kill them all. he might have mentioned it in mein kampf, but he changed a lot by the time he got into power after writing that book, I think he became a bit more sensible
Charles Hernandez
The actual man in charge of repairing the economy was Hjalmar Schacht.
Schacht realised the economy of Germany was entirely unsustainable without some reforms, otherwise conquests would be necessary to fund it.
The actual Nazis (Göring, Hitler,..) made sure to kick him out especially because they did not agree with his economic policies that helped revive the German economy.
Once the war would be over, the economy would crash again and Germany would experience yet another depression.
Schacht was a member of the Nazi Party but he also publicly expressed his disgust at the treatment of the Jews as soon as 1938, and tried to co-conspire against Hitler after 1938. One can hardly call this man a Nazi.
In the end all this proves is that Hitler cared more about power and dominance than he did about the good and well-being of his people.
William Diaz
Let me stress this again: Hitler didn't fix the economy, Hjalmar Schacht did. Hitler then fired him and ran the economy into the ground again.
Even if you concede that Hitler fixed the economy (which he didn't), you still can't separate that from the fact that the German economy was essentially converted into a war machine dependent upon its upcoming conquest and looting, which in turn set the stage for a genocidal campaign through Eastern, Central, and Southern Europe...all of this ending with the complete collapse of the German state, its defeat in an unwinnable war, and its partition subsequently.
If you're judging by immediate legacy, worst leader ever (even restricting that to just the German people he deemed racially worthwhile).
William Garcia
>Hitler’s Plan To Destroy Christianity (1/3)
Once the war was over, Hitler promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian Churches. By the latter part of the decade of the thirties church officials were well aware that the ultimate aim of Hitler and other Nazis was the total elimination of Catholicism and of the Christian religion. Since the overwhelming majority of Germans were either Catholic or Protestant this goal had to be a long-term rather than a short-term Nazi objective.
Under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler—backed by Hitler—the Nazi regime intended to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. The Nazis plan was to de-Christianise Germany after the final victory. It seems no exaggeration to insist that the greatest challenge the Nazis had to face was their effort to eradicate Christianity in Germany or at least to subjugate it to their general world outlook. It was Hitler's long range goal to eliminate the churches once he had consolidated control over his European empire.
Evan Walker
>Hitler’s Plan To Destroy Christianity (2/3)
In 1999 Julie Seltzer Mandel, while researching documents for the "Nuremberg Project", discovered 150 bound volumes collected by Gen. William Donovan as part of his work on documenting Nazi war crimes.
Donovan was a senior member of the U.S. prosecution team and had compiled large amounts of evidence that Nazis persecuted Christian churches. In a 108-page outline titled "The Nazi Master Plan" Office of Strategic Services investigators argued that the Nazi regime had a plan to reduce the influence of Christian churches through a campaign of systematic persecutions. "Important leaders of the National Socialist party would have liked to meet this situation (of church influence) by complete extirpation of Christianity and the substitution of a purely racial religion," said the report. The most persuasive evidence came from "the systematic nature of the persecution itself".
Wyatt Young
>Hitler’s Plan To Destroy Christianity (3/3)
In Hitler's scheme for the Germanization of Eastern Europe, there was to be no place for Christian churches. For the time being, he ordered slow progress on the 'Church Question'. “But is clear”, noted Goebells, himself among the most aggressive anti-church radicals, “that after the war it has to be solved... There is, namely, an insoluble opposition between the Christian and a Germanic-heroic world-view". Once the war was over, Hitler promised himself, he would root out and destroy the influence of the Christian churches, but until then he would be circumspect.
In his memoirs, Hitler's chief architect Albert Speer recalled that when drafting his plans for Hitler's "new Berlin", when he told Hitler's private secretary Martin Bormann that he had consulted with Protestant and Catholic authorities over the locations for churches: "Bormann curtly informed me that churches were not to receive building sites".
Blake Reyes
WARNING AGAINST APOSTASY:
>6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
>7 [Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth;
>9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
>10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
DEUTERONOMY 13:6 - 3:11
Elijah Perez
Not this shit again. Fuck off already christfag.
Matthew Williams
>he thinks natsocs arent socialist
why are NatSocs so ignorant on their own policy.
Parker King
Seriously? Do you get paid to post this every single time the topic comes up? What could you possibly get out of it?
Brayden Stewart
>Deuteronomy
Jordan Martinez
>another example of you accepting the kikes truth before doing actual research.
I'm talking from experience. It's generally atypical for someone to start saying Hitler had no intentions of harming Jews and Eastern Europeans, without them having invested interest in Hitler being not a bad guy.
>A liar, hypocrite and pussy
If Hitler had the means to decimate the Jewish population, and systematically cripple the populations of Eastern Europe but didn't, he would have been contradicting the very fundamentals of his ideology.
If it turns out Hitler never intended or planned to ethnically cleanse, I'd be genuinely curious why he chose not to.
Gavin Ross
Are these threads automated? It seems to me that every time one is posted I see the same replies and arguments recycled.
Lincoln Howard
I never said NatSocs aren't socialist m8. Try harder.
>Hitler had no intentions of harming Jews or Eastern European
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
>contradicting the very fundamentals
Show me where these fundamentals are m8.
Camden Lopez
seems so
Easton Wood
Newfaggots come in and spout the same memes about WW2, the 3rd Reich and the holohoax without ever reading earlier replies or threads every single thread. It's a chance to expose them to the a different side of the story and hopefully put some doubt in their mind about the current narrative.
Aiden Hughes
Dumbing my Adolf folder here. Stay tuned for goodies!
Have you ever read Orwell's essay "The Lion and the Unicorn"? I am a big fan of Orwell's essays, I would say even more so than his novels since you can get a real sense of his beliefs about actual world events and school of thoughts from his essays. Here's an excerpt from this 1941 essay:
Two incompatible visions of life are fighting one another. ‘Between democracy and totalitarianism,’ says Mussolini, ‘there can be no compromise.’ The two creeds cannot even, for any length of time, live side by side. So long as democracy exists, even in its very imperfect English form, totalitarianism is in deadly danger. The whole English-speaking world is haunted by the idea of human equality, and though it would be simply a lie to say that either we or the Americans have ever acted up to our professions, still, the idea is there, and it is capable of one day becoming a reality. From the English-speaking culture, if it does not perish, a society of free and equal human beings will ultimately arise. But it is precisely the idea of human equality – the ‘Jewish’ or ‘Judaeo-Christian’ idea of equality – that Hitler came into the world to destroy. He has, heaven knows, said so often enough. The thought of a world in which black men would be as good as white men and Jews treated as human beings brings him the same horror and despair as the thought of endless slavery brings to us.
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Andrew Morgan
It is important to keep in mind how irreconcilable these two viewpoints are. Some time within the next year a pro-Hitler reaction within the left-wing intelligentsia is likely enough. There are premonitory signs of it already. Hitler's positive achievement appeals to the emptiness of these people, and, in the case of those with pacifist leanings, to their masochism. One knows in advance more or less what they will say. They will start by refusing to admit that British capitalism is evolving into something different, or that the defeat of Hitler can mean any more than a victory for the British and American millionaires. And from that they will proceed to argue that, after all, democracy is ‘just the same as’ or ‘just as bad as’ totalitarianism. There is not much freedom of speech in England; therefore there is no more than exists in Germany. To be on the dole is a horrible experience; therefore it is no worse to be in the torture-chambers of the Gestapo. In general, two blacks make a white, half a loaf is the same as no bread.
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Kevin Smith
>I don't understand what you're trying to say.
I'm speaking about holocaust deniers. Hitler clearly intended to ethnically cleanse Jews and Eastern Europeans. If Hitler didn't act on these intentions and we're under the premise holocaust deniers are right then I'd be curious why Hitler didn't remove any Jews from Europe and why he didn't brutally treat Eastern Europeans.
>show me where these fundamentals are m8
I feel like I've got to explain what national socialism is to you. Race and racism is a fundamental to Hitler's ideology, he was totally obsessed and fanatical about it. If you don't take my word for it just read Mein Kampf or Zweites Buch which was by the man himself. He wanted the total eradication of the Jews in Europe, and lebensraum in the east for the German people at the loss of Eastern Europeans.
Holocaust deniers would say Hitler didn't understand hjs own ideology or some shit. Then if deniers thought Hitler did want the eradication of Jews, it would leave the question why he didn't attempt to eradicate them.
Angel Kelly
But in reality, whatever may be true about democracy and totalitarianism, it is not true that they are the same. It would not be true, even if British democracy were incapable of evolving beyond its present stage. The whole conception of the militarized continental state, with its secret police, its censored literature and its conscript labour, is utterly different from that of the loose maritime democracy, with its slums and unemployment, its strikes and party politics. It is the difference between land power and sea power, between cruelty and inefficiency, between lying and self-deception, between the S.S. man and the rent-collector. And in choosing between them one chooses not so much on the strength of what they now are as of what they are capable of becoming. But in a sense it is irrelevant whether democracy, at its highest or at its lowest, is ‘better’ than totalitarianism. To decide that one would have to have access to absolute standards. The only question that matters is where one's real sympathies will lie when the pinch comes. The intellectuals who are so fond of balancing democracy against totalitarianism and ‘proving’ that one is as bad as the other are simply frivolous people who have never been shoved up against realities. They show the same shallow misunderstanding of Fascism now, when they are beginning to flirt with it, as a year or two ago, when they were squealing against it. The question is not, ‘Can you make out a debating-society “case” in favour of Hitler?’ The question is, ‘Do you genuinely accept that case? Are you willing to submit to Hitler's rule? Do you want to see England conquered, or don't you?’ It would be better to be sure on that point before frivolously siding with the enemy. For there is no such thing as neutrality in war; in practice one must help one side or the other.
When the pinch comes, no one bred in the western tradition can accept the Fascist vision of life.
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Asher Ward
Facebook banned me for spreading the word about der juden.
I am a little butthurt to be honest. Cuckerburg is public Jew #1 and he needs to be outed for the shekel sniffing Palestinian raper he is.
Wat do? >Inb4 kys I'm immortal.
Austin Morgan
That's a relief, good to know I'm interacting with humans and not an algorithm.
There's some pretty good stuff in here. To anyone who hasn't already read it I recommend The Patton Papers. The man was a military genius and his personal writings give a perspective of World War Two, Soviet socialism and German national socialism that's more accessible to Americans given his writing style. It also gives great insight into the role of the American media in the folly of Germanys further destruction after the war.
Charles Nelson
He would most likely disagree with himself if he saw the world right now. Surely?
Ryder Ortiz
Glad to see someone lurks around here, sorry if that sounds rude.
Ill get to reading those papers, sound like a good read. There is so much content to cover its nice to have other opinions of the material posted here.
>clearly intended
Post proof m8
>taking his personal writings this seriously
I understand where you're coming from m8 but can you see that he was a politician and couldn't enact these policies without seriously reprisal from other governments. I can say here, on a Burmese finger painting forum, that I want all kikes in ovens. If I came into power I know i'd have to settle for deportation and segregation.
Its nuance m8, he had to have it so he could function as a leader, he couldn't act upon his raw emotions. That would be foolish. Is this really that hard to comprehend?
Hail Victory Brother!
14/88
Luis Reyes
Bampen
Dylan Gutierrez
Eläköön voitto!
John Morales
>he was a politician and couldn't enact these policies without seriously reprisal from other governments.
It didn't stop contempary powers from brutal treatment of ethnic issues, from the USSR, to the British empire and very soon later the Japanse.
If Hitler had avoided war with west, I still believe he would have attempted Germanise the east and cleanse "undesirables."
But Hitler did go to war with the west, he was an international pariah. He had every reason and opportunity to eradicate eastern populations, to Germanise in line with lebensraum and eradicate total partisan opposition from ethnicities. It's why Himmler was appointed to this task and why directives of Eastern Europe were different.
>post proof m8
I've been Auchwitz, that was fairly convincing. The whole brutal labour and concern traction camp thing seems a big piece of evidence. From personal anecdotes my family was in Ukraine and Russia, the treatment was beyond horrendous. Families were rounded up in barns and burnt alive. This behaviour was encouraged and soldiers were told to "steel up their hearts."
I am a socialist though. National socialism doesn't necessarily have to have a socialist economy though. There's nothing in the ideological texts or philosophy based on it that says it has to have a socialist economy.
He followed positive christianity that excluded all jewish apostles, old testament and the way we see Jesus as a jew.
Cooper Parker
I usually lurk, but there's some good stuff in these threads, OP.
Ryan Moore
>My feelings as a Christian point me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. Adolf Hitler, Munich, 12 April 1922
>God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work. Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved. In vowing ourselves to one another, we are entitled to stand before the Almighty and ask Him for His grace and His blessing. No people can do more than that everybody who can fight, fights, and that everybody who can work, works, and that they all sacrifice in common, filled with but one thought: to safeguard freedom and national honor and thus the future of life. Adolf Hitler, Berlin, 30 January 1945
Ayden Parker
In 1933, “I swear by God this holy oath” was amended to the German oath of allegiance.
As SS leader, Heinrich Himmler required his officers to read and memorize a book he wrote called “50 Questions and Answers for the SS-Man”:
>The first question is: “What is your oath?” >The answer is: “We swear to you, Adolf Hitler, loyalty and bravery as leader and chancellor of the German Reich. We vow to you and to the principles laid down by you obedience to the point of death. So help us God!” >The second question is: “Thus you believe in a God?” >The answer is: “Yes, I believe in a Lord God.” >The third question is: “What do you think of a person who does not believe in a God?” >The answer is: “I consider him arrogant, stupid, and a megalomaniac; he is not suited for us.”
>Be in no doubt that we would not be able to be this body of men bound by a solemn oath if we did not have the firm belief in a Lord God who rules over us, who has created us and our Fatherland, our people and this earth, and who sent us our leader.
>We have the holy conviction that according to the eternal laws of this world we are accountable for every deed, for every word, and every thought, that nothing our mind thinks up, our tongue speaks, and our hand does is completed with the act itself, but is a cause which will have its effect, which in an inevitable, inexorable cycle redounds on ourselves and our people in the form of a blessing or curse. Believe me, men with this conviction are anything but atheists.
>The whole brutal labour and concern traction camp thing seems a big piece of evidence.
This does not prove intents for extermination
>Families were rounded up in barns and burnt alive.
prove it
James Gutierrez
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Ryan Kelly
>if Hitler had avoided war >implying the allies didn't reject his peace offers
It was their choice
>I still believe
Well good thing we can hypothesize.
>I've been to Auschwitz >anecdotes
Laffen m8, come back with some sources. The holohoax is just that. A hoax. It is being used to demonize nationalism and simple plebs like you are buying it.
Cheers m8, you would've appreciated what this place was like before Sup Forums harbor.
Matthew Carter
These threads are coming too fast, I'll not stay.
Say hi to the South African chap for me.
Isaiah Rogers
The holocaust didn't happen. How gullible do you have to be to believe that. We already established it in this thread. One of Froghurt's mate's thought himself a big champion of holohoax pushing. We completely btfo out of him. He couldn't answer our questions at all and left the thread before the discussion was over.
We firmly established that the holohoax narrative can't be true according to the population statistics that we have available and that the jews are confirmed to be lying about it. We even caught evidence of them spreading disinformation on wikipedia within the last year. This was his last post. This was the post below his last post. He didn't post anymore after that.
Read the thread. It was quite amusing to watch this guy swagger into a thread like a gay pride parade in a country village and get absolutely btfo.
Logan Bell
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Adam Wright
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Grayson Ortiz
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Charles Gutierrez
I'm sympathetic to Hitler's beliefs, but they were fanatical. By accepting the holocaust I'm not trying to demonise him.
Hitler was fanatically obsessed with the unification and eastward expansion of the German people, with the plan of cleansing undesirables. This is accepted
>buht Hitler would never actually do any of that, he was a nice guy who didn't really care about race. It was just to get support.
Nazi Germany had concerntration camps, labour camps, and partisan suppression in the east which caused barbaric civilian tolls.
>b-but it's only coincidence that these institutions did this, I doubt they actually meant to actually brutalise Eastern European civilian populations in line with Nazi ideology.
The Jewish population in Europe fell as if it had been ethnically cleansed, and people in the east uniformly remember how women and children from Eastern Europe were treated like partisans which needed to be exterminated.
>Th-they don't actually remember it, it was all fabricated as an intricate plot to make it out as though Hitler would actually do what he wanted. These people were bribed and the statistics made up.
Connor Howard
>pic related
Refer to. And post your sources
Brandon Smith
>the holocaust Prove it.
>the plan of cleansing undesirables Prove it.
>The Jewish population in Europe fell as if it had been ethnically cleansed No it didn't
Stop just saying things and prove it.
Cameron Wood
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Jack Morris
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Elijah Ross
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Carson Cook
Come on. Show us your best piece of evidence that proves any of the following. >government conspiracy >gas chambers >6 million One piece of evidence for any of these will end the discussion. You will win. And the holocaust will be proven to be true.
Nolan Cruz
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Justin Peterson
Even if all of this was true, the general Jewish population were complicit in the attempted extermination of the German people during the 1920s. He had a right to be fanatical.
Eli Garcia
Come on. Show us your best piece of evidence that proves any of the following. >government conspiracy >gas chambers >6 million One piece of evidence for any of these will end the discussion. You will win. And the holocaust will be proven to be true.
Ian Reed
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Isaiah Sullivan
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Nicholas Hernandez
>retarded socialist economy >leads to literally the best place on earth that humankind has ever seen in history
