Why are beauty standards for men in Hollywood so much higher than they are for women...

Why are beauty standards for men in Hollywood so much higher than they are for women? To be a leading man you need to have an extensive knowledge of nutrition, exercise, supplementation, medication, AND acting.

All women have to do not get fat. That's it. There is ZERO beauty standards for women because all they need to do is sit in a chair for two hours while some poor makeup artist makes them look passable. They don't even 'act' they just regurgitate lines fed to them by the directors 2 seconds before he yells 'action'.

All women are beautiful.

Men NEED to WORK in order to be beautiful.

Know the difference.

I wonder what was running through op's mind before posting this copypasta

>To be a leading man you need to have an extensive knowledge of nutrition, exercise, supplementation, medication, AND acting.
No you don't. You just have to pay personal trainers and personal chefs. Do you think Chris Pratt is an expert in nutrition?

that's why women don't get paid as much, you fucking brainless inbred retard :))

>copypasta
its not copypasta i literally typed it out because i'm curious to know the answer
>All women are beautiful.
no
chris pratt isnt male

>To be a leading man you need to hire trainers that have extensive knowledge of nutrition, exercise, supplementation, medication, AND acting
Fixed that for you

This is just about as stupid as OPs post

why havent you refuted OP yet? too chicken shit or something? dumbass

>you need to have an extensive knowledge of nutrition, exercise, supplementation, medication
More like a personal trainer, personal chef, and doctor to oversee your ((((((supplementation))))))

why do you care? are you a bodybuilder trying to make it in film? are you 6'4? do you think the rock cares about your austistic opinion?

Women feel they have to compete over really retarded shit that I don't understand but the standards exist and are very high

>(((((supplementation))))))
actually they made test and steroids illegal because they dont want man to achieve physical perfection because thats the only way to defeat ((((them))))

The Rock is 45, and will probably be able to be a headlining actor for another 5-10 years depending on his health.
Hollywood tosses women out on their ass after 30.

they are pretty high for women as well

this is a good thing. and it doesnt count as a refutation because unless you are mommygf tier (maggie isnt) then you hve no place on the silver screen. i dont want to pay 15 dollars to stare at her face for 2 hours.

also the "le hire nutritionist and personal trainer" is a MEME response and doesnt count as a refutation

cc:

>unlesa you are mommytier gf you have no place on the silver screen.
Katherine Bates would tell you to get fucked.
If you're an amazing actor, then you should be in movies.

>If you're an amazing actor, then you should be in movies.
t. virgin rèdditor

Trt is legal in first world countries and easy to get from your regular doctor once you hit 30

>i'm curious to know the answer
So you posted this on a tv imageboard filled with angry losers with no ability to provide an answer to the question

Wow, this meme again. this is obviously bair but ill bite.
You DO know that it is easier for most men to not only gain muscle but also simply "not get fat" because of testosterone right? Did you not learn that when you were trying to gain "extensive knowledge" about nutrition and exercise?

Yes men often have to get muscular, but with testosterone on their side, it's not much harder than girl getting and staying slim.
though most women don't need Rock's Olympic weight lifter tier body to get turned on as otter mode to athletic is good enough for 99% of them. Literally just have abs.
Women are expected to have near perfect facial symmetry naturally and with make up.
Women also have to worry about their fat distribution; sometimes, lose too much weight and your boobs or butt get smaller before your stomach or arms do. Women also have to worry about looking to old and matching the right outfits to look good. Extra points if your outfits match with your make up and hairstyle. Part of that fashion is also wearing inch heels that hurt like all hell. But I'm sorry, men have it so much worse I'm sure. I'm not even saying men can't have it as hard but much worse? Really?
Nothing, he is an idiot who doesn't live in the real world.
>All women are beautiful
Not according to hollywood and magazines.

ROIDS FOR A MILLION YEARS

How does that not count? She is literally losing out on a role because of her age and the way she looks in a way that she cannot change? All Rock needs to do to keep his role is continue working out.

>it's not much harder
it is though. Shut your whore mouth roastie, putting down the fork isn't hard unless you are a spoiled american brat whore

+dedicated roid cycle, trt alone doesn't cut it for his size

Literally all male actors have to do is take steroids, DNP or coke and beta blockers and have good genetics and they're good to go.

Actresses generally have to be able to sing, dance, take DNP or coke to maintain figure, take beta blockers, and have a dialed in hair and makeup routine. In many cases they have to fuck their way up the ladder. Shelf life of actresses is short as most women start becoming disgusting looking in their late 30s vs late 40s for men.

It's a lot more difficult to "make it" as an actress than an actor. On the flip side if you're an attractive female someone will always give you everything in life for free so the risk of complete life failure is much lower for actresses.

If you truly believe actors work hard for their bodies you are a moron please go to /fit/ and we'll help clear your misconceptions. Please up vote this post so idiots don't continue perpetuating false information about acting.

It reverses at age 40. No one wants you anymore as a woman and definitely not in a leading role unless you have the acting skills of Meryl Streep.
Tom Cruise is almost 60 and he is still man of action with 30 year old hottie love interests.

>be young woman
>suck 6'5 old rich man cock for 15 years
>turn 30
>get told you're too old becuse your skin luster is gone and your slender youthful ertile body is gone
>mfw they spent all this time telling young men theyre too short or too poor and expectt me to care some roastie isnt getting roles like thte endless supply of younger more pleasant looking women

>Literally all male actors have to do is take steroids
you clearly have no idea how expensive steroids cost. the amount of work contained in that sentence fragment is more than any actress has to do in her whole life

A guy doesn't have to look like that though. There are plenty of guys with bodies not as big as Rock that girls like. Actually some girls see Rock as too big.

Fuck off poorfaggot. No one cares about you. Go back to voting for Republicans or shouting SHADILAY or whatever the fuck poor retards do with their spare time.

>all the cunt apologists itt
Dude women have to not be fat once they hit 30 it's totally the same as slowly killing yourself with steroids to fit the generic tough guy archetype lmao

You will never learn

Women become pretty for free, but lose it at 32 without strenuous maintenance.

Men become "pretty" with hard work, but it lasts well into your 60s.

This is why women like Brittany Snow and Jessica Alba have flash in the pan careers while guys like Leonardo DiCaprio are still as popular as ever.

Nice argument there. No one is telling you that you gotta looked passed otter mode besides your body dysmorphia and you know it.
I love how you bascally call me tumblr teir while ignoring obvious biological differences between men and women.
It's not my fault you have naturally low T so it's hard for you to lose weight and gain muscle. That actually just puts you in the same predicament as most women.
You are really saying that roids cost more than all the make up, clothes, hairstylists, shoes, plastic surgeons, and personal trainers that girls have to buy? Let's get back to the point that most men don't need steroids to get to to otter mode so most of the time they don't even need that. You probably don't even work out. You're basically bitching right now because you're too lazy to even start since "it seems too hard" meanwhile being hypocritical enough to criticize others.

Literally toxic masculinity and patriarchy are the reasons for all of this. And this includes the beauty standards for men. You're trying to form an argument here that "crushes" feminism -- but in reality, you're strengthening it without you even realizing it.

Regardless, your statements are generally false when you look at the fitness levels of prior best actor winners. Casey Afflek? Skinny fat DYEL.

/thread

there is nothing easier in modernity now than to be a woman www.twitter.com/maggiearch3r/status/844654772011589633

Women don't become pretty for free you idiot. Stop. Make up, clothing, spa/wax treatments, hair stylists, plastic surgery(which many who realize they don't fit close to the ideal end up considering) are NOT cheap! You obviously don't go out much and have no idea what you're talking about. I didn't even talk about maintain low weight yet.

most of those things aren't necessary until you hit the early thirties threshold.

>Women don't become pretty for free you idiot. Stop. Make up, clothing, spa/wax treatments, hair stylists, plastic surgery(which many who realize they don't fit close to the ideal end up considering) are NOT cheap!

Oh yeah. All those 18 year old girls getting plastic surgery. Most of what you just described is purchased by women out of interest in it, not due to an invisible "patriarchy" forcing them to. When a girl is between 16-25, unless she's glaringly fat (like I presume you are), she will have a life that far exceeds the life of the average or even above average man. Fuck off roastie.

I don't know, I think it might be easier to be a millionaire or billionare heir/heiress. Then again, I'm not autismotarded

>statistically it is way easier to be a woman than a man
>YEAH BUT LIKE .1% OF THE POPULATION HAS IT EVEN EASIER U GUISE

Roastie plz go

Hahahhahahahaha! So you don't have/never had a girl friend or female friends then? I thought so. They may not be "necessary" but if you're going to use that argument, but neither is building muscle let alone to the same level as the Rock Johnson. Hardly anyone looks like that in Hollywood except a few.
Regardless of inherent necessities, OP was talking about standards and society does make those things a standard for women to be "flawless." You will notice a lot of girls ware obsessed with achieving that because of all the messages they get from fashion and entertainment industries. Same with boys but in a different way(not as multiple faceted either).
This OP also is trash because Rock became a famous actor BECAUSE of his workout regiment and body. He didn't have to do it to stay an actor. It was already a huge part of his lifestyle. They always put him in action roles at first because of it actually.

>This OP also is trash because Rock became a famous actor BECAUSE of his workout regiment and body. He didn't have to do it to stay an actor.
>He didn't have to do it to stay an actor.

You are so fucking retarded it's almost physically painful

Once again, roastie plz go

Oh so now we're moving the goal post... You're off the topic from OP now as we were talking about Hollywood but if we want to do that, OP's "standards" are because of the patriarchy too.

And most men don't have to be attractive to get a girl. You're just autistic and socially awkward or don't carry yourself well so you push people away. If you're:
>interesting/social
> funny
>athletic /talented.
Literally any one of those things with or without attractiveness will get you a girl. What kind of girl? Well..that depends. But it will get you girls.
If you are born ugly as a girl your life is over without plastic surgery and make up. Even if your "pretty," society has a huge industry built around telling you you're not good enough.

Society also pushes men to make a lot of money and be bread winners but that is also a problem.

Stick around on this website for a while. I love watching people like you gradually come to the realization they've been fed a pack of bullshit

"Le Rock" literally had to have surgery to remove his samoan bitch-tits.

The Rock became famous through his career in pro wrestling and his charismatic attitude, which led to him getting film roles. Compare him to other wrestlers who had better physiques but didn't get half as far as actors and it becomes obvious. Granted, he would never have been able to get his start if he wasn't physically fit, but nobody demanded that he had to be a freak of nature to stay relevant. Most women look fine if they're not fat and maybe have a bit of concealer to cover their acne from all the soy lattes and sugar they consume. The brainless sluts who have been brainwashed by oppressive beauty standards are free to shoot themselves with a make-up gun and get botox injected into their faces, but it isn't demanded of them outside of shallow jobs like modelling and acting.

He was an Athlete and professional wrestler. It was always part of his life style. You don't even know anything about the man you apparently worship.
And again plenty of famous actors DO NOT LOOK LIKE HIM! You are the retard. Now go away and sulk in your insecurities and loneliness for all I care, it doesn't change anything though.
1. Biologically it is easier for men to lose fat than females because of test

2. Women still have a lot of beauty standards they have to uphold as well.
You literally think beauty is all "skinny and fat" and that's your problem. That's a big thing but not the only thing.

You're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. Please stfu.

Female attraction to males is entirely primal and evolutionary (doesn't matter that we have birth control and condoms now). Men need to be born with the best genetics to be worthy of procreating and thus desired by females. It is simply a matter of evolution taking the most efficient course--a male is capable of theoretically impregnating 10,000+ women in his lifetime whereas females generally have a ceiling of 10-20 childbirths. Which system would you guess to have better results, all men reproducing at equal levels, or all women reproducing at equal levels? It's actually a good thing things are the way they are. If women weren't discriminatory, ugly genetic trash guys would go to town and that'd make future humans go extinct by having immune problems, inability to fend for themselves, etc. Also we'd probably still be retarded apes.

>/fit/

It's not demanded of them by you yes, same way a guy that looks like Rock Johnson isn't demanded by all women before they even consider to date a guy. It is demanded by society that shapes our attitudes and perceptions on life. I feel bad for the "brainless sluts" to that end as it is not their fault. It's the fashion and beauty industries trying to make bank that shoved it down their throats .

That's why it s important that people like us emphasize to girls that they don't have to be flawless and that all they need to do is be healthy and everything will fall into place.

see you brainlet.
You shut up and read a damn book or article for once in your life.

you have no point you numbskull

>If you're an amazing actor, then you should be in movies.
Problem is, some of those who complain aren't mommygf tier AND aren't that good actors

no self esteem issues here

Not even who you're replying to

>testosterone
>affects muscle mass
>affects fat distribution
>has fuck all to do with your twice daily starbucks run

>ottermode
>sufficient for 99% of women
tindr/ pof/ match/ every other dating site would like to have a word with you

>it's harder for women because while all men have to do is just pick up and put down chunks of iron while eating right, women have to wear clothes! and dab powder on our faces!

the sad part is, you sound so socjus that I doubt you participate in basic hygiene, much less beautification

Mad roastie detected. Womens standards for men are way higher than the other way around and this shows in Hollywood

>completely ignoring money and fame

Roastie is life on easy mode.

Lmao you're bitter because you're and ugly woman

>muh testosterone

These men are all roiding btw

>actually they made test and steroids illegal because they dont want man to achieve physical perfection because thats the only way to defeat ((((them))))

Whoa I didn't know Hollywood tests for roids?

>Blatant bait
Women over the age of 36 don't even get hired. Explain that.

but user, they do
source: imdb, wikipedia, google, rotten tomatoes, et al

>Explain that.
well there are only so many ways you can entice an audience with an older woman. older women are the most boring version of humans there is. younger girls have more options, more archetypes to play. older women literally only have

>mother
>workaholic

that's it

Not nearly half as much as the men, faggot.

>mothers
>boring
Wow. Great display of intelligence here.

>Wow. Great display of intelligence here.
not that dude but what's your point exactly?

I'm not bitter. I telling you how it really is with many girls you think are pretty don't see themselves as such and try so hard.
>These men are all roiding btw
Not all of them are though.
And without all roids, men have more testosterone no? It is scientifically proven that is why men naturally have a easier time than women keeping off weight from fat.
Rock may or may not be, he was always athletic plus he has Samoan genetics.
Plus you just proved that if girls aren't pretty they will be depressed with your comment. This goes further though because of standards by hollywood, many girls who are actually kind of pretty think they are ugly regardless of what you think.

Bottom line: OP is retarded. Men and women have it bad in different ways with standards but women have it bad though multiple dimensions.

you should see your doctor about your low testosterone

It's offset by the fact that women over 30 barely get hired anymore, depending on how their face holds up. Meanwhile, men get hired at any age and get paired with a ripe 20 year old actress.

>Meanwhile, men get hired at any age and get paired with a ripe 20 year old actress.
that's offset by their ability to do this in their late teens and early 20s www.twitter.com/maggiearch3r/status/844654772011589633

>but women have it bad though multiple dimensions.
Riiiiiiiiight. The same women who get a free pass to big roles even when they're shit at acting just because of their pretty face.

>plus he has Samoan genetics
This is retarded. I don't think you understand the amount of effort a man needs to put to have a good physique.

As usual, men have it harder than women as in every field but still come out on top and now we have women crying over it.

That a mother -as even edgelords like the Nazis knew- is the near backbone of a society and a culture. And that they are fucking important.

That fag's ignorance towards women (which is the same as modern hypocrite Hollywood) is part of the problem why modern women and society are in the shits. And that retard doesn't even know it.


And you should see a psychologist about your probably narcissist and sociopathic tendencies, you literal degenerate

umad?

>That a mother -as even edgelords like the Nazis knew- is the near backbone of a society and a culture. And that they are fucking important.

I mean, a father's role is equally as important and it's pretty boring to see a man playing daddy on screen.

Women can't get fat or old. Most actress never get roles in movies when they get older and have to transition to tv. It's not as bad for men, if you're actually a good actor you can keep getting work in movies

Do you know what ottermode is? I said ottermode to athletic covers 99%.
You don't need roids for any of those bodies especially not otter mode.
Again, it's not my fault you have low T and shit social skills the latter is something you can work on personally.
How do you know that every girl drinks starbucks all the time? Where did that even come from?
Look it up, test does affect fat burning too.
Makeup is not sufficient if your face doesn't have near facial symmetry. You can forsake face all together if you have certain other attributes things as a man, yet it doesn't mater what women do, they cannot be ugly. They get shit on by society.
So stick around on this Tibetan cartoon basket weaving forum and not the real world where people actually interact and actually have relationships? I think I figured out why you are lonely, user.

>And you should see a psychologist about your probably narcissist and sociopathic tendencies, you literal degenerate
you should see the X on the top of your tab for all that redditspacing. dont come back

The rock is naturally humongous though

Depends on the actress, faggot. Good actresses keep doing film. Bad actresses who were there just because of their beauty (most actresses) lose their entire value when said beauty fades away.

All great actresses keep getting roles, stop spreading bullshit.

For men most of them have to be good actors to land roles to begin with, so they are more likely to keep some of their value when aging. Add to that that there are more roles to fill for men and you're set.

Nice attempt at damage control.
You still fail to grasp the simple concept that most actors in Hollywood do not have the Rock's body. His point proves my point well that you do not understand the Rock's life and professional career. But keep imagining things.

I'm not /fit/ in the slightest but
>unironically listening to what women say they want

>mfw women think guys get this big for them

>Most actress never get roles in movies when they get older and have to transition to tv.
Take some time to read the post you're responding to instead of instantly responding when you're still worked up because you misinterpreted it you manchild

>Fatherfigures and rolemodels necessarily have to have kids

You make a great point, fellow grown-up.

>meme response and deflection from the start
>implying you're not a reddit shitposter

I did, what the fuck is your point you little bitch?

Some old and used hag transitions to tv because she's a shit actress. What's the issue here?

My point is you're a little internet tough guy man child who is seething over a post he doesn't fully understand

I know, right? I'll take a little brofuck over bitches any day. No homo.

>>implying you're not a reddit shitposter
so do you not have any actual arguments or retorts? because if you're just going to keep resorting to boogeymen replies and goalpost shifting then you need to fuck off

t. mad roastie

I made my points here and Can you point me to your points and arguments please, shitposter?

No it isn't just go outside sometimes. Outside of hollywood: The only guys who don't have girlfriends these days are austist and completely socially retarded dudes man.
unless the girl is a /fit/ girl, most women don't care if you're the Rock or not. Most men in Hollywood don't get many more help from personal trainers than women considering test makes keeping weight off easy + the fact women also need all this others shit like stylists, make up fashion etc.

With in hollywood, most men do not look like the Rock why are you so dense? Getting abs to show in men is as easy as getting and staying slim for women unless you're a guy with low test. I feel like I'm being trolled now because you are just so hard headed.

Lol all these incels in this thread.. I'm literally laughing at your lifes.

>Can you point me to your points and arguments please
see

>Deflection and ad hom
>an argument
That's it? All you can do?

>>Fatherfigures and rolemodels necessarily have to have kids

Fatherfigures must have kids, it's not like being a mother. You learn how to be a father, it's not an instinct like females and mother stuff.

>Fatherfigures must have kids
Is this bait? Or are you an actual retard?

Not even that guy, but you know there's a difference between the word father and fatherfigure user, right?

>Outside of hollywood: The only guys who don't have girlfriends these days are austist and completely socially retarded dudes man.
Yeah 6/10 men have to fuck a 4/10, awesome! At least they're not single, right? Kek.

Women have it easier, why can't you fucking admit something factual?