Trump lied, the wall died

Trump lied, the wall died.

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thank you for correcting the record
flawed fuck

saged

He isn't going to have a choice if push comes to shove.

I would assume his plan took into consideration that Mexico obviously wasn't willing to pay for the wall.

I mean, the whole reason I bothered to research Trump at all was because everyone just kept saying "Mexico will pay for the wall" in a sarcastic voice.

I know everyone thinks Americans are stupid, but I had a bit of faith in them to have a presidential candidate who could back up what he said. Plan might still suck, but I assumed he had a Plan B in case Mexico said no like they were obviously going to.

We're no paying it, but they will build it.
I'm Ok with a wall, I mean, if they want a wall, build them.

Don't you guys have one to keep out the subhuman natives to the south of you?

Callate guey. Ustedes van a pagar.

People are fucking retarded.

>withhold aid from Mexico until the wall has been built

WOW MEXICO PAID FOR THE WALL

>who will pay for the wall?
>We did not discuss that

Trump lied again, what a surprise. I thought he was a straight shooter? Not a liar like all politicians? Isn't that supposed to be his whole appeal?

Trump Make Mexico great again MMGA. the wall will be build, an cartels will fear the might of America's military

>Let's team up for border security on both borders
>We aren't paying
pick 1. We will literally fuck you faggots up to public starving if you don't pay.

according to the EPN speech that's the plan, we secure our border in exchange for you to actually help to take down the cartels and limit the influx of guns into Mexico.

>trump:hello, peña, it's an honor to meet you
>peña: WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE WALL
>trump:...okay...how about we just talk about trade.
>peña:okay...but we're not paying for the wall!
>trump:sure...sure...

Why'd we help you deal with your problems for free? You're literally taking up space for our expansion.

>isn't that supposed to be his appeal
No. Everyone with a brain knew that Trump was never a straightshooter. His appeal is that he's not Hillary Clinton.

JEEZ I GUESS I DONT KNOW WHO TO VOTE FOR NOW. THE WALL I MIGHT PAY FOR OR TOTAL AMNESTY WHICH I WILL PAY MUCH MORE FOR.

Seriously, who are you trying to convince with this?

Mexico can't tell us what to do. Fuck yo tax free remittances ayi ayi ayi

>Let's take over a country filled with pregnant 12 year olds, psycho cartelfags, and drunk mestizos

Negative, ghost rider

dd you guys even fucking read the art of the deal?

trump is the mozart of business deals.

Why haven't we just had a joint expedition into Mexico to take care of the cartels together? It's not like the military industrial complex will say no to more conflict.

But at the end of the conversation, Donald told me Mexico is paying for the wall

How is
>Mexico will not pay for the wall
The same as
>There will not be a wall

^

They will pay by diverting economic aid into paying for the wall.

wew. You new to conquest lad?

Huh, well I'll be damned. Not even president yet and he's already got the workings of a mutually beneficial deal to secure the border, reduce the drug trade and cut off funding to the cartels that are terrorizing Mexico. Who knew?

trump didn't even write it

he literally paid someone to exaggerate about him

The money to pay for the wall will be taking out of the $38 billion trade deficit that we have with Mexico and that's not mentioning all the aid we give the beaners.

>they

Please listen you, foreign aid is not our money.
You'll pay it, by using foreign aid for the wall.

We're not paying a cent.

>Basic negotiation tactics
>On par with the sophistication of Mozart

Kek

I watched the movie.

Read the Art of the Deal.

Trump's whole thing is that he negotiates smartly. He's patient when there isn't a good deal and he's aggressive when there is.

Disciplined aggression is not straight shooting. Its more like sniping, setting up good odds and patient waiting for opportunities.

I know these are troll posts, but lurkers need to get educated. Trump says crazy things because it works.

>We're not paying for this wall!
>Haha, of course you are, silly.

This thread again? Saged.

History.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancho_Villa_Expedition

Again, it's not our fault that you have stupid businessmans.

You guys are dumb if you think we care about a literal wall or who's paying for it. We care about border security, and every time Trump does something like this, the longer he holds out, the more confidence we have that he really holds our values and cares.

The wall will be built. Do you want to fight about how high he's going to build it, if he'll use mortar, cement, bricks? What colour to paint it?

>foreign aid is not our money.

Not anymore it isn't.

Then why didn't he say that at the press conference

>Democrats claim to be peaceful
>Democrats claim to be compassionate
>Democrats claim to be against war
>Democrats claim to support Islam

And yet the person they support is a psychopathic maniac killer

youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s - The Truth About Hillary Clinton's Mental Illness

youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM - "We came, we saw, he died! LAUGHS" (Gaddafi)

youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU - Hillary Clinton openly states she wants war with Iran to protect Israel

youtube.com/watch?v=xvhBoF_pCHo - Hillary laughs maniacally about war with Iran


>Hillary Clinton The Racist

Hillary Clinton calls blacks "super predators" and says they "must be brought to heel."

Hillary Clinton praises Robert Byrd, former recruiter for the KKK.

Hillary Clinton praises Margaret Sanger, a woman who said minorities must be exterminated like weeds.

Hillary Clinton praises Margaret Sanger, a woman who led a quiet campaign of genocide against minorities using abortion.

It was never ours.
It's YOUR tax money.

i want wall tho

this if we aren't siphoning money to them they are paying

I like to call him the Beethoven of Bankruptcies.

Having a discussion about payment and stating your point of view about it are two different things.

you're getting one he didn't say the wall wasn't coming

He cannot discuss negotiations with the Mexican President either way due to the Logan Act.

Logan Act: a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.

Nice try Shill.

>ignores 980 successful Trump companies

Hey guys, his casino went under in Atlantic City!

pretty fake and gay lol, and you morons all fall for it.

can you idiots just critically think for a second on why a mexican president would tweet in english, or failing that do a quick google search for his twitter?

Wew. You new to global politics? I know it's fun to LARP about being conquistadors again, but governance over a mestizo population that inherently hates whites won't end well and will just give the jews more excuses to start movements against white people. If you're an extermination enthusiastic, good fucking luck.

>

>It's up to Mexico to see if they are going to pay

Lad, there are two options : Mexico pays by writing a 10 billion $ check, or Mexico pays by a special tax on Mexican products entering the US.

lol cnn been stuck on this topic for 45 minutes.

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>The wall is a horrible racist idea! It will NEVER happen!
>Mexico agrees to wall but doesn't agree to pay for it (yet)
>LOOOOOL WHAT A LYING PUSSY MEXICO WON'T PAY FOR THE WALL CHECKMATE TRUMPKINS

because the actual aproach doesn't work, it doesn't matter how many drug lords you kill new ones will always appear as there is so much money involved, we either need to legalize drugs or actually secure the border making sure that is almost impossible for drugs to enter into the US and guns enter into Mexico.

I don't care. It's not like mexico can afford it anyways.

Just build the fucker.

>politicians never keep their word but that's okay
>trump starting strong to get a fair deal is absolutely not okay

Liberals are fucking retarded.

>His appeal is that he's not Hillary Clinton.
Well he's pretty shit at that apparently. You cucks and your delusions are cute though.

>guey
You disgusting burger don't even try to speak Mexican again

Mexico isn't going to give them the money, trump is going to stop money flowing from the US to Mexico and use that to build the wall. That is and always has been the plan.

Trump didn't write or say most of whats in that book....

>extermination
>ruling over them
go on, try getting it out.
I don't know if you're capable of thinking of any other possibilities,
but try finding them

That's what I was thinking that whole time, too. Rhey didn't "discuss" anything and from what I gathered, Trump wouldn't be allowed to negotiate anything anyway. The "outrage" over this is stupid, though Trump probably should have said something like "we didn't discuss any details" rather than "we didn't talk about it".

Mexican headlines:
"Pena cowardly calls Trump a liar behind his back after a humiliating historic error in inviting Donald Trump to Mexico"

BOOM.HEADSHOT.

your prize.

>implying shillary won't win
but otherwise pretty much this

Easy ass deal to make as well. $52 billion trade deficit with Mexico, wall is only $10-12 billion.

If they want to continue trading with us they will pay for the wall

The end result is the same. $ N billion you would have had, you will not have, and there will be a wall on the border.

build a wall the trump man said
to the voting booths they head
cuck'd in both their head and heart
such is life for a shart in mart

source??

I think most of the people for whom the detail matters are smart enough to be able to figure out the difference.

No mames guey.

except trump just came out in favor of total amnesty as well (even more so than hillary)

hillary is now the strong-on-immigration candidate

Exactly this.

I'm an attorney (admittedly I do secured transactions and trust administration work) but obviously Trump knows the Logan Act exists. It's so much more likely he wouldn't do something that would get him 20 years in jail, rather than doing something that could just easily backfire.

Correct the record is out in force today.

I like to think he's more of a
Mozart

He has never said that ever.

Proof or GTFO.

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manlet BTFO

>Why is a guy that is only a presidential candidate not discussing wall payment specifics with the Mexican president

Mexico can keep dreaming. The Wall is going to be built and if they don't help we aren't going to help them with their terrorist/gangster problem it's as simple as that. They need to seriously start considering the best investment for the future of both the U.S and Mexico in the past 40 years.

>You can't truly be rid of them
True.

>Legalized drugs

No, the cartel is too smart for that, plus if it's legalized that essentially leaves the cartels with their empire intact. Only force can get rid of them at this point. Even with extreme policing, the cartels could just do what the Colombians did in Miami, and reinvest their funds into property and construction projects. The only way to deincentivize the drugs is either extreme punishment and crackdowns, as in Pinochet style executions, and take a rigid control over the economy for the time being. Problem is, with groups like la Raza and various commie organizations, it would just create more revolutionaries if western interventions to take such immediate control. As long as the cartels have a steady supply of college students, street thugs, and blacks you will never get rid of the demand for drugs. The only option left is to overthrow them and punish anyone who sympathizes with them/ takes up their mantel. Pretty much just pipe dreams unfortunately.

It's like you people don't realise how powerful the United States is.

The President of the US could end Mexico as a nation and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

If Trump wins the Mexican politicia\ns are literally going to be beginning for him to be merciful towards them. And Trump is a big enough cunt that he will force them into paying for a portion of the wall lel.

Lol no he isnt. He just got played by pena nieto. EPN got him with the handshake, essentially compromising trump to mexican desires without compromising mexico to any specific financial burdens. Mexico is preparing to take advantage and win on trade if possible. They dont give two shits about a wall.

>I
>Not He
Mexico is going to lose the rape game

But he's accepting the fact theres going to be a wall, good.

are you fucking stupid?

JUST LAST WEEK

he said all the illegals in the country get to stay unless they committed some other crime (only "the bad guys" get deported). this is the literal fucking definition of amnesty. trump is in favor of full amnesty now, just like hillary, obama, rubio, and jeb.

>Mexico pays by a special tax on Mexican products entering the US

US consumers will pay those taxes

Then blame Tony Schwartz for doing such a good job.

Even if Tony recants the book now.

Kill them all. And make it be known that death is the sentence

Watch this .gif and play this music in the background: youtube.com/watch?v=Plt2klMikKE

Donald Trump is the new Mickey Mouse, Making America Great Again

(((CNN))) so desperate to spin this negatively, they can't stop talking about who will pay for the wall.

Pathetic.

Those are the only two options dumbass. Unless we elimate our enemies, we will always be seen as an invasionary force. There's many ways to make the natives friendly with conquerers, but Mexicans won't have it.

OK shill.

>Senor, I wish to remit a thousand dollars to my family in Oaxaca.
>Sure, that will be 1100 dollars. Wall tax, Paco.

Multiply that by millions of remittances a year.

What exactly came out of this meeting?

Mexico was never preventing America from building the wall.

The only thing I'm getting out of this is Trump didn't act like a massive jackass.

>hmm, should i refute his point with reasonable argument and facts?
>nah, i'll call him a shill
You guys are essentially SJWs. You have your little safe spaces and buzzwords for shutting out speech that makes you uncomfortable.

>Death is the sentence

You've never been around actual sociopaths have you? Death doesn't scare them faggot, men who are willing to decapitate children and hang them up on the free way as a warning to their opposition are pure nihilists. Hell getting themselves killed is romanticized.

Mexico needs to care of itself, I dont want Iraq 2.0.

Which money is that?

>Mexico needs to care of itself
The US is largely responsible for mexico's mess. Its our black market that created it, there needs to be decriminalization of these commodities to begin breaking up the cartels.

Correcting the Record are we James?

Who is this girl?