SpaceX just attempted a test launch for a Falcon rocket and it exploded.
I work near there out at Cape Canaveral, there is a massive liquid oxygen storage tank (above ground) directly next to the launch pad.
SpaceX, from what I have heard, is surprisingly lax about safety and operations procedures (compared to NASA itself).
Is private industry really the best option? Sometimes burdensome safety regulations prevent stuff like this I guess.
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Private industry only works for profit not quality
And people say that capitalism is good.
wew lads
>small setback
>oy vey, goyim, accept communism; it totally works for sweden
>Storing liquid oxygen next to a launch pad
Plebs
Where else are you going to store it?
1. Public projects failed just as often
2. Privatization only makes sense when competition is encouraged and possible. Afaik, SpaceX had no incentive to compete.
solution:
mr.musk must be in the rocket on every launch. i'm sure nothing like this will happen
Must have been one of the Falcon 9 that landed.
>Nasa has never fucked up
So this is sabotage then?
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Update::
Reports of two explosions from our field personnel on base at the moment. The oxygen tank very likely gone.
LINK?
I don't really see what the problem is with explosion, shit like that happens all the time.
Having said that, apparently the payload was lost, which isn't good.
It's probably cheaper to replace an above-ground tank than to install a below-ground tank.
Did they say what kind of an anomaly?
it's just outside of Sup Forums mehmed
Is there a video though?
Excellent idea
Not yet, probably gonna need an investigation into this anomaly, wonder what it was.
Trump doesn't want your jew rocket in our American orbit
this
NASA playing dirty
What was the payload? Nukes? Body parts? Extremely lewd imagery?
Bullshit, if everything you build explodes you're not going to make any profit. Public projects don't have same kind of responsibility, as no ones life is ruined if the company fails and you can pump endless amount of money from the tax payers.
No, the payload was a satellite
Ayy lmao's
Probably a poor Syrian refugee. He might have had an explosive belt strapped to him by the vile racists.
Their payload was an Israeli comm AMOS-6 satellite
IAI got rekt
That's boring as fuck though. I thought they were secretly sending porn to the ISS.
they were storing a time capsule of hentai porn in the upper atmosphere.
there's no hope for the security of your porn stash now.
Not of the explosion
t. Kerbal Pro
>AMOS-6
>6
OY VEY! ITS ANNUDAH SHOA
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video of the smoke and explosions at Space-X's compound.
CHAYNA
Why were they doing a static fire (test) with the actual, $200M payload mounted? Sounds like they should have used a dummy of the same mass etc but were trying to get it done faster / cheaper. WHOOPS
I doubt they know yet, but whatever the cause "an anomaly on the pad" will remain a technically accurate description of a fuckhuge explosion.
Source on the doujin?
>Not driving around in kerbal karts to test them before the moon mission
>Not storing fuel around the launch pad so your kerbals can refuel
I can tell you've never established a base on the Mun.
Fuck knows, but them saying Anomaly hints that something interfered with what they usually do, wonder what, Sattelite was Israeli build by IAI
You are very wrong here. NASA has insanely strict launch and test procedures now. They spend way more on safety than private spaceflight companies.
you're the jew, aren't you supposed to be the one misinforming everyone?
>AUTHORITIES CLAIM THE BLACK SMOKE PLUME TO BE NON-TOXIC
breathe deep faggots
NASA has exploded plenty of their own space ships. Sometimes with people on them. Going to space is fucking dangerous.
Hey hey hey, we only misinform if there is profit from this misinformation :^)
>NASA pointlessly spends large amounts of money of achieving nothing.
that's an argument FOR NASA how?
>we
It is insanely expensive to install and uninstall the payload from the delivery. Very likely cheaper to test fire with the real payload installed.
NASA needs more fires. There's a tradeoff between progress and safety. I'd rather have progress.
>Private industry only works for profit not quality
Nope. Soviet Union had absolutely terrible safety.
Depends whats the government wants more of, safety or progress.
It is.
SpaceX is cutting corners to try to ofer the best service by the cheapest price.
So this kind of thing will happen.
Anyway, there is that other company that I forgot the name that is working just fine.
When things like this happenes, its just a step in the process of getting right. Now is time to go back to the drwaing board and re-do the work.
I recommend the book that pic is from btw, it's interesting / funny especially if you have some chemistry background :
IGNITION! - An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants
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(out of print, so downloading it is semi-legitimate)
An ayynomaly
You might be thinking of ULA, which is a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Boeing. They're heavily sponsored by NASA though, and get much more government funding/subsidization than SpaceX. They also have to follow NASA SOPs more strictly as a result.
yeah and NASA never killed anyone in a fire or an explosion, I don't like SpaceX has killed anyone yet
It wasn't one. I'm not a big NASA fan, what with having to deal with their bullshit 80% of the month. I was just correcting that guy.
think not like fuck I must have some mental thing
Im not sure about being "funded by NASA".
Maybe is quite the contrary: LM and Boeing are the ones financing this and NASA is helping them out with calculations, enginerring and selecting the companies that are needed to build the parts they need.
Well, if you think about it, the fraction the average taxpayer money pays to fund NASA is so low that is worth keeping them.
>wuz
They also get hugely reduced costs for "renting" NASA facilities. That's free shit. Not necessarily free money but still funding in a sense.
Blow up the tank senpai
I can see how for a Brazilian cutting most but not all corners would be seen as very conservative but in the USA this isn't how we operate.
NASA still got a man to the moon
Uhhhhh
It's not really cutting corners, more issues of innovation.
The SpaceX launch architecture, and the business ethos behind it, is entirely new and runs counter to the practices of legacy launch companies like the ELA, which use cold war and russian hardware, because they're running on a standard aerospace industry attitude on conservative design; reliability is much more important than raw capabilities, cost effectiveness or being cheap, and innovation doesn't happen unless it's along the lines of developing existing architecture. Add on historic attitudes towards government funding and cost-plus contracts where they could heap extra charges on the taxpayer for being late and well, you can see where that goes.
The SpaceX architecture is new, cheap because it's new (new engine design, extreme level of computerisation of engine use in the falcon 9, etc), cheap because it's almost all inhouse, and reliability not on the similar level to ELA because it's not as old and developed, yet. The company itself also cares much more about the cost and development argument in order to corner the market, since launch costs are the biggest costs of getting anything to space, and a failure in 1 in 50 launches at a third cost is better than 1 in 100 at full ELA pricing.
>SpaceX, from what I have heard, is surprisingly lax about safety and operations procedures (compared to NASA itself).
That's because SpaceX has yet to lose men like NASA did which prompted NASA's safety procedures.
>sweden
why am I not surprised
lol. You're saying they wanted it to bomb?
Also private industries care about quality more.
It blew. It's gone.
True. But them again, at least they are having some revenue over facilities that in other cases, would be closed without generating income.
Is "this for that".
Anyway, institutions like NASA, Cern among others, backed by States are needed for breakthrough on science.
They fund things that at first, has no commercial value. But once they found that discovery, only private companies are able to mass produce/ deliver a service to the massess at reasonable prices on a big scale.
200 million dollar payload? What was it? Any details??
We need to crown Elon Musk stat!
How are they private? They receive federal funding.
>mfw muhammad doesn't know they operate on federal funds
Including the loss of the 200M payload lad? :^)
>what is insurance
Not worth wasting money when you could be generating a profit during what is otherwise regular launches.
Also, IIRC, customers usually get discounts for slated test launches.
Israeli AMOS-6 satellite
>tl;dr
>go fuck yourself.
failed launches happen about 1/3. Nasa would most likely require much higher standards in safety because they're most likely launching manned flight missions and don't want to send people to their deaths.
SpaceX has successfully landed rockets that has delivered its cargo into orbit.
The massive liquid oxygen tank that is above ground was most likely empty because it put its liquid oxygen into the rocket that failed.
Can you stop shitting on awesome shit? you take your filthy diarrhea and try to fucking spew it all over a golden pile of shit thinking you're legit.
I don't even know if any of the stuff I just said is true, i'm quite sure it is, and the only part that might not be true is the reason nasa has higher safety standards, which doesn't fucking matter because space x has been considered apart of nasa for some time now.
Would you say that Colt Defense LLC isn't a private company then? They're actually a public agency run by the government?
They receive federal defense funding for contracting after all.
Huh, probably caused by the fact each page is a huge image like pic related. Try a different reader?
It renders fine in SumatraPDF - sumatrapdfreader.org
never happened
>there is a massive liquid oxygen storage tank (above ground) directly next to the launch pad.
Well no shit sherlock, how do you think they fill the oxidizer tank? It's obviously not filled when the rocket launches. The safety standards you have to follow for things like LOX rockets are incredibly stringent and you have government inspectors all over your ass, even in private industry. Trying to say they are "lax" about safety procedures is ridiculous, they'd be fined into bankruptcy if they fucked something up.
t. rocket engineer
If it's rendering fine for you, then yeah I need a different reader.
Also nah. That PDF isn't just a scanned image, it's an OCR PDF, where scans pick apart the text such that it can be selected, copied and pasted. That's the rendering problem, not the size.
>rocket engineer
be honest, have you ever made rocket surgery or "this isn't rocket science" jokes?
also who do you work for?
>"this isn't rocket science" jokes?
All the time
Lockheed, I guess technically I'm a jet engineer not rocket, but from a combustion standpoint it's all the same
Risk/cost analysis. All of their testfires have gone okay so far. They would have spend probably upwards of $200m installing, testing, and uninstalling dummy payloads.
It was carrying facebook satellite, so no loss of value.
Everything you just said is retarded
>>Private industry only works for profit not quality
>Nope. Soviet Union had absolutely terrible safety.
How is this in any way related? So everything made by the state is equal to USSR? Right wing retards...
>People still believe we went to the moon 50 years ago
>Can't even reach space today
Found it!
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>yeah and NASA never killed anyone in a fire or an explosion,
But NASA were pionners. You can't compare 60's and 70's technology to today tech
NASA is pretty much the largest sucess of USA. Americans should be proud of it
Nice
>Also private industries care about quality more.
No, they care about profit. If profit is achieved by better quality or not, it's other question.
Chinese factories care about quality?
>Several million dollars goes up in flames
How do they still get investor funding?
F rip Elon the divorce will be the final nail the Jews can't have your electric hippy mobile
Watch the documentary 'Idiocracy"
>takes the movie seriously
>movie
>not prophecy