Ive been a libertarian for years now, but im becoming more and more aware of its flaws; more specifically, its inability to stop the degeneration of a society. The only system that seems to be able to prevent that is fascism, but i cant seem get behind the whole "gigantic, omnipotent government that has the ability to do whatever the hell it wants" thing. Is there anything i can read or that you all can tell me to help me out here?
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Here's the thing to realize, OP:
Libertarian principles cannot be realized under democratic governance. Given the choice, the majority will gradually vote away their freedoms in the name of security and/or social justice.
Only a government that is not accountable to the majority can deliver real freedom.
But how do you decide who this is? Who has the right to that power? How do you ensure they dont immediately become corrupt?
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We have reached the point where we are already oppressed by liberal goverment. The left has actually became the facist regime. So we need to revert back to right wing to preserve our way of life.
>room full of monarchists
>ok... so who becomes the king?
>everyone raises their hand
Here's the thing about fascism, my man.
It works for like 10 or so years, then goes straight down the crapper.
The government tries to control every aspect of your life, arbitrarily says what is "degenerate" and what is not, and silences anyone who disagrees.
It is a ideology of stagnation. If you want to start reevaluating your political philosophy, instead of making an oppressive corrupt system of government, start with taking away universal suffrage which is actually reasonable.
corruption eventually happens, which is why we need pic related
this guy is right, which is why the U.S. govt is set up the way it is, mostly
See, you get what im talking about. The only problem is, if you're removing the right to have a say in society, arent you infringing on their liberty? Theres got to be some form of middle ground
So essentially, you need a dormant yet omnipotent power that can step in when necessary, but is opposed by a populace that actually values their own rights and is willing to fight
I feel you. I care a lot more about the demographics than I did before, so I consider myself a Hoppe libertarian. I don't believe in democracy but I don't believe in a huge government either.
Maybe a monarchy with an armed populous and a constitution would be better? At least we know who to replace if they start fucking things up, making our leader's self interest ties in with our own.
You're still putting the power into the hands of the people to govern themselves, but you are using a filter to make sure their voice is educated.
Your filter can be whatever you want. It used to be you had to own land and be a white male in the US, as these were the people who could actually afford education.
I'm a fan of the Starship Troopers method of having to do military service to gain your rights.
You're leaning towards fascism. I can relate in the sense that fascism is a good social policy, just not a governance system. What I mean by this is that humans naturally subscribe to hierarchy and no one is equal. You will have stupid people, you will have smart people.
When you give everyone the right to vote thinking that they're somehow equal in their education, you turn campaigns into pandering and voting into a meme.
Leaning towards you guys. There has to be some form of control, on both who gets a say and what is allowed, but by and large people should be left the fuck alone. However, the idea that somehow everyone is magically completely the equal because we happen to exist in the same are is ridiculous. Im not as smart as a brain surgeon, so you shouldnt treat me as one, etc.
Democracy just turns politicians into whores instead of leaders. How can you enforce policy when you have to suck satans dick for the money?