Evidence of Jesus

What is your evidence of existence of Jesus?

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>What is your evidence of existence of Jesus?

Not a christposter but tbqh lad this is a weak argument, that he existed isn't particularly disputable. But all that can really be said of him for certain via primary sources is that 1) He existed & 2) He was baptized.

All the miracles and shit in the NT isn't remotely sourced. That's pretty much why you have to throw all reason to the wind in order to believe.

LMAO

Roman documents prove he existed, fedora.

What's your evidence for believing you were not created by him the moment you stop reading this message?

I doubt you need proof of something that existed 2k years ago. Just like some of the world wonders, no one knows if they existed, they were recorded but who could tell now. And i do believe the bible these days isn't read for more Cheesus but just to know how to live a life without sin, or something like that. SOme people find fulfillment in such shit while others don't or just are too lazy to even try and then complain how christianity is the worst shit ever. Let's be honest the worst shit nowadays is Islam.

Well, it's a fact he was a Jew, there's no discussion behind that.

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I've heard there are strong evidences of Jesus.

I reverse searched the image and it's fucking bullshit.

> Is this the REAL face of Jesus? Forensic experts use ancient Semite skulls to reveal what Christ may have looked like.


There's fucking more than 500 million Jews and Arabs. 80% of them don't look like pic related.

It's just fucking bullshit

youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U

I'M A CHRISTIAN, I KNOW JESUS AND GOD EXISTS.
NATSOCS, WHAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE OF EXISTENCE OF JESUS?

>What is your evidence of existence of Jesus?

The prophets and romans that agreed on what he looked like and made portraits, paintings, murals and embroidery of him for 2,000 years.

bible tells it

1. Off-topic.
2. That's literally what ancient Israelites looked like before they started getting whiter.

>isnt sourced
>4 different sources alone in the NT, not considering other sources

>Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.

>That's literally what ancient Israelites looked like before they started getting whiter

You're implying that in 1500 years, a race can change its skull shape, color, hair?

What about Chinese? And blacks?...

>4 different sources alone in the NT, not considering other sources
Luke, John and Matthew are all textually dependent on Mark. so really we only have one source

Stop believing everything you find in the Internat you retard.
And his "photo" was made by a fucking Artist. The last thing you want to do is to take a 21th century artist seriously

>Christus
this is a later edit by christians. he actually said Chrestus

i am jesus not literally but existentially

please realise Jesus was created by ((( ? ))) and in this new religion ....miraculously ..... (((They))) are the chosen ones

>we wuz kangs

This, desu. It's written by a Roman who calls Christianity evil.

You can breed completely new breed of dog within your lifespan, change their skulls, snouts, tails, color patterns. That is just few dozen generations. Why would humans be exempt from that?

It's not necessary to prove the existence of Jesus. It's impossible to disprove the truth in the words that were spoken by whoever said them. Build your faith on a rock, the word.

What's crazy about the reconstruction picture in the OP? Plenty of jews today look like that. Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews look like that. And even plenty of Ashkenazi Jews, look at Serge Gainsbourg - he looks incredibly middle eastern.

>the bible is all true because the apostles said so in it

Nah m8, that's you having faith. It isn't evidence of anything.

We're talking about a whole race.
Not fucking chihuahuas

>Jesus don't look like an average semite, he looks exactly like this weird looking guy.
Unless Jesus's photo was made by a team of archeologists, it's fucking bullshit

Not true, John was seperate and there is supposedly an earlier lost gospel q

as well as a ton of forgeries and fakes :3

>The last thing you want to do is to take a 21th century artist seriously
No one will read this because they're overdosing on bluepills and probably funding kikestarter indie video games.

I want you to know you are not alone.

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Dunno, but here's an atheistic(or otherwise non-Christian or non-Abrahamic), or at least historically critical view of Pontius Pilate, the man who the Judaeans forced to execute Jesus.

youtube.com/watch?v=c19E4py1r40

Jesus preached his ministries during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberius, that is when the Roman prefect Pontius Pilate was the administrator of the Judaean province.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius_Quinctilius_Varus#Political_career
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_(Roman_province)

After the Bar Kokhba Revolt the Roans had enough of these god damn Kike bastards and just renamed the whole province as Syria Palestina, after the enemies of the Israelites the ancient Philistines

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_Palaestina

socialist kike.

Christianity has some good values though.

Romans*

His trial under Pontius Pilate.
Also, that pic was clearly drawn as a mockery, based on the look they've given him.

You can't call jews "goddamn kike bastards" if you advocate worshipping one as the living omnipotent god. The two positions are mutually exclusive. Pick a side, and quit being a hypocrite.

Jesus was Judean. Kikes are not. They are manipulators and liars.

The bible predicted this in Revelation.

>pick a side
Fucking kike piece of shit. Fuck you.

Who says I do? I don't worship any fucking kike, so if the Israelites were not White Nordics, there's no fucking reason why I'd worship their fucking bullshit Meshiach(anglicized: Messiah.)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

He asked for evidence, I offered a trail of clues to follow.

youtube.com/watch?v=VF7kqc7th0A&index=68&list=PLitcEeja1fPsx4FCmLYxqNroq6FXVXw63

>kikes
Jesus was a "kike" too, you fucking hypocrite.

Prove that Jesus was a special, totally white man with a thin, short and straight nose and brown hair, living in the Middle East.

ALSO, THAT WASN'T THE POINT OF MY THREAD. THE POINT WAS TO TRIGGER THE NATSOCS.

>EVIDENCE OF JESUS - TESTIMONIES
>EVIDENCE OF GENERALPLAN OST - TESTIMONIES
>JESUS - REAL (BECAUSE OF TESTIMONIES, DUH!)
>GENERALPLAN OST - FAKE (BECAUSE THEY'RE TESTIMONIES, DUH!)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodian_dynasty
>The western extremities of Judæa towards Casius are occupied by Idumæans, and by the lake [Sirbonis]. The Idumæans are Nabatæans. When driven from their country1 by sedition, they passed over to the Judæans, and adopted their customs.2 The greater part of the country along the coast to Jerusalem is occupied by the Lake Sirbonis, and by the tract contiguous to it; for Jerusalem is near the sea, which, as we have said,3 may be seen from the arsenal of Joppa.4 These districts (of Jerusalem and Joppa) lie towards the north; they are inhabited generally, and each place in particular, by mixed tribes of Egyptians, Arabians, and Phœnicians. Of this description are the inhabitants of Galilee, of the plain of Jericho, and of the territories of Philadelphia and Samaria,5 surnamed Sebaste by Herod;6 but although there is such a mixture of inhabitants, the report most credited, [one] among many things believed respecting the temple [and the inhabitants] of Jerusalem, is, that the Egyptians were the ancestors of the present Judæans.7
Strabo, Geography 16.2.34
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom#Religion
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hyrcanus#Conquests_of_John_Hyrcanus

Fucking dumb kike filthy fucking scum. Lol. Fucking retarded as always.

Oy vey shut it down

My biggest proof is that his disciples existed and went to great lengths to spread the word of Jesus' existence and resurrection. Even if you discount Paul, who could have been anyone or the inventor of an early Christian cult, there were developments in Christianity far outside of Paul's grasp in Armenia and India by the end of the first century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Thomas_Christians

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Typical manipulative meme-graphics bastard.
Quotes taken out of context, e.g. the Matthew 23:33 - "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ sins. 33You snakes! *****You brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of hell?*****"

Also Judea = Jewish kingdom.
“He came to His own [Judah], and His own [Judah] did not receive Him. But as many [Jews] as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name... (John 1:11-12 NKJV), and He clearly said, "You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22).

He's a Pole trying to bait the board you idiot. Has the burger grease finally fucked your brain because the Jews aren't lurking in every shadow.

There are records he existed as a historical figure.

That's an assertion. Where is your actual evidence?

How do you know someone with an agenda didn't write it? Something written on a page isn't necessarily evidence.

>Doesn't read the fucking article I posted

There were no inroads to India and Armenia in the Roman Empire at the time. The fact that Christianity was even in India was rediscovered hundreds of years later. If you want further proof, there is solid archaeological evidence of Christian chapels in the area at the time.

Just Google it you fucking retard.

So you have no evidence. Thanks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate_stone
He was crucified under Pontius Pilate.

>presents factual arguments
>yo fuckn retarded or wo fuckn kike!!!11!1

I knew there was no use in trying to have an intelligence conversation with a degenerate Atheist like you. I actually have dual citizenship with your disgusting little island nation, but I'll never go back because your nasty little crooked teethed Muslim shithole is going down the drain like your precious cucked empire did twenty years ago.

digitalcommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1283&context=srhonors_theses

I understand this is an honors' thesis, but you can read through the most salient points and refer to the references he gives, given you know how to read or will bother to enlighten yourself on the subject (you won't).

Well, somebody mowed the lawn.

Im an atheist but i have to say
Unbiased roman history writers

Doesn't matter if he existed, the things he said are true and I live my life by that.

>EVIDENCE OF JESUS - TESTIMONIES
>EVIDENCE OF GENERALPLAN OST - TESTIMONIES
>JESUS - REAL (BECAUSE OF TESTIMONIES, DUH!)
>GENERALPLAN OST - FAKE (BECAUSE THEY'RE TESTIMONIES, DUH!)

He existed just like Megatron existed.

>he subscribes to the debunked khazar theory

Most historians believe that Jesus existed, whether he really was the son of god is another subject.

>What is your evidence of existence of Jesus?
Millions of Hispanics with that Greek name

The Short:
Possibly.

The Long:
Jesus' historicity reads similarly to Pythagoras, and Lycurgus. There's some lack of evidence to his existence

There -is- evidence of a movement based on an ideology of Christianity as a religion that formed from the amalgamation of Gnosticism and Old Judaic texts that foretold of a savior king that would bring God's chosen people back to him.

Comparatively:
>Think Pythagoras and his theories.
>Think Lycurgus with the Spartan warrior/citizen culture.

Historicity of a prominent character and their supposed doctrines does not seem to have an impact on people's agreement with their proposed ideologies - in other words, it's a matter of "faith" at that point; irrespective of historicity.

"The God That Wasn't There" was a documentary that very explicitly explored the historicity of Jesus. All the potential "cannon fodder" (if you will) needed to disprove via overwhelmingly circumstantial evidence that he did not exist can be found right there.

2 of the 4 Roman "citizens" that supposedly identified him were found to be frauds. The other 2 are "questionable", but "possibly authentic" by best account from historians familiar with the subject.

The Tacitus example here is of questionable origin (according to some scholars), but perhaps the best "proof" for historicity of Jesus' existence.

It is generally accepted by historians that he did exist, though. The reasons are overwhelming circumstantial, again, but this is driven by people's need for validation of a faith that helped guide western society to world dominance upon it's adaptation by Constantine.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

Here is a picture of his tomb which he was put in 50 AD when he died in Kashmir from a natural death of old age. Jesus never died on the cross, someone who looked like Jesus died in his place. The real Jesus also was called Easa and didn't like the holy cross symbol.

This is well known in Islam, but, if christians knew this, they would just do what they always do historically and destroy the evidence to keep their religion going at the expense of older ones, the leader being a rich aristocrat.

The Catholic Church knew this and actually has a fraternity specifically with the purpose of assassinating Easa descendants, because he had children while he was alive in Kashmir.

>Believes that jesus looks incredible handsome
Oh man you fell so much for the jewish image for marketing jesus

>Christianity has some good values though.
They all do. Some good generic philosophy mixed with toxic amounts of horrifying immorality and insane dogma.

There's not a dimes worth of difference between any of them

Well actually I can believe you, user. Poor jesus he had his image corrupted by the christians to make him look like a perfect savior when he was really just a regular human. Made me have some feels.

>documents proved his existence
>mfw when i could have wrote anything about other gods and years later the the religion fags would have eaten it up.
top fucking kek
why are religious fags so stupid, user?

He built the railroads for our sins.

>debunked
Yes, clearly there is no reason not to debunk the truth of modern Jews origin.

Satan's lies, thanks Muslim.
I bet you believe that fly wings contain cures and that the sun sets in a muddy puddle, too.

What is your problem with people believing in what they want to? Rationality has no place in every aspect of human life, live your life and stop trying to ruin it for others, idiot.

Sure i never forced them to change their ways, and hopefully they dont either.
But everything should be questioned.

>Uses the words in a book made maybe less then a hundred years ago over a tomb made two thousand years ago

>Talk down on a religion they clearly didn't look into

When I went to a mosque, we had to learn Islam, the same type of Judaism in Israel, and Catholicism because our leaders "didn't want us to disrespect other peoples culture".

Did you know Jews that are orthodox are suppose to follow 617 laws in order to create a paradise on the earth? Did you know Jews get punished far worse then non-Jews when God the father judges them due to the fact that they accepted responsibility?

>Talk down on a religion they clearly didn't look into

“They will ask thee of Dhu'l-Qarneyn. Say: I shall recite unto you a remembrance of him. Lo! We made him strong in the land and gave him unto every thing a road. And he followed a road Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. He said: As for him who doeth wrong, we shall punish him, and then he will be brought back unto his Lord, Who will punish him with awful punishment! But as for him who believeth and doeth right, good will be his reward, and We shall speak unto him a mild command. Then he followed a road Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom. So (it was). And We knew all concerning him.” S. 18:83-91

The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease." (Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537)

Further, the Koran says that Jews are to answer to the Torah, as are Christians to the Gospels, not the Koran. Yet then it says those books are corrupted and only the Koran is word.
Mohammed was a false prophet, tricked by Satan into believing he was experiencing the word of God, via Gabriel. Satan is known to take the form of Angels in order to deceive us.
I'm a sinner, we all are, but come to accept Christ as your savior and know God's Love and worship Him and not satan, and your life will be saved for the better here and After.

>Please god just end us now so we can know peace

I have eaten his body and drank his blood.

>not Matthean primacy

Kek

What are you talking about? I live in Texas and there's like eight Jesus's down the road from me.

Well considering one wonder still stands and we know where the remains for most of them were...

What the fuck would a source be then? They were stand alone "sources" before they happened to be collected into the Bible. Just because they are in the Bible doesn't make them not sources.

Saint Paul never met Jesus but hung out with those who did. He'd have known if they were just talking about metaphorical person.

Jews today are mostly slavs and khazars with drops of Semitic

That's cool, but better abstain from tasting anything else of his

Thats still second hand

>assuming
Why are fedoras dumber than niggers?

Word

Even retards can present facts and arguments. Look at molymeme

The New and Old testament have many things like this. What you are doing is called cherry picking. Other people can also cherry pick. You have made your mind up, so I won't waste my time arguing with you. Enjoy being cucked geopolitically during the 4 degree increase temperature that will lead to even more mass immigration.

JESUS NEVER EXISTED, I HAVE PROOF:
jesusneverexisted.com/

WAKE UP SHEEPLE! GOD ISN'T REAL, HE'S A FAIRYTALE JUST LIKE THE EASTER BUNNY AND SANTA CLAUS! ATHEISM FOREVER!!!

AND BY THE WAY: SWAG IS FOR BOYS AND CLASS IS FOR MEN! SO WHY DO GIRLS ALWAYS PUT ME IN THE FRIENDZONE!?!? *TIPS FEDORA*

There is none.