Why is there such a lack of ecchi in Sup Forums stuff? It's like either extremely subtle, over the top smut...

Why is there such a lack of ecchi in Sup Forums stuff? It's like either extremely subtle, over the top smut, or too goofy.

Where's the middle ground?

Because the main demographic for cartoons in America are children.

>Why is there such a lack of ecchi in Sup Forums stuff?
Current year.

Because fuck your cheap fan service, that's why.

It's out there, but Sup Forums hates it because it's mostly anthros.

Thankfully we're above that as a society.

America invented the internet to serve as a pornography distribution service, a function which it performs, spectacularly. Using cartoons to do the same would be redundant.

Because it takes away from the content. There's literally no point to it, which is why anime sucks right now.

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face in boobee
geddit???

>he can't find the balance

>Why is there such a lack of ecchi in Sup Forums stuff?
Because it's 1) a niche market, and 2) incredibly skeezy.

A company that has to do something as expensive as cartoons can deal with one or the other but both simply isn't profitable outside of places like Japan where hikis are somehow able to spend boatloads of money.

>Looks
Bee>Bird
>Personality
Bird>Bee

we used to have cheesecake all the time until the SJW mods banned everyone for posting

Children don't have money. I'm a grown-ass man with disposable income!

>>Personality
>Bird>Bee
nice shit taste m8

america is about the edge

No u

Mongatari is way OTT. What are you talking about?

I thought the sexual revolution was to encourage this shit, not catering to sex hating dykes.

The fuck? This shit is why people look down on reading comics. Comic writers have no taste and just write pulpy garbage meant to shock.

>A company that has to do something as expensive as cartoons can deal with one or the other but both simply isn't profitable outside of places like Japan where hikis are somehow able to spend boatloads of money.

Pretty much this. As much as I prefer western styles of character design and animation over anime, I simply have to accept that the Waifu industry is for the most part something largely distinct to the Japanese animation economy and sexual norms.

Would you *actually* spend money on western ecchi merch like figures, posters, DVDs and shitty licensed vidya gaems? Because I know you'll buy them for your nieces/nephews, younger siblings, maybe children of close friends and the odd doorstep baby you might have taken in. In other words, the industry doesn't need to take a huge risk to cater to you personally when it can keep on doing what it's doing and still get that money.

>Would you *actually* spend money on western ecchi merch like figures, posters, DVDs and shitty licensed vidya gaems?
Not him, but I own this, so yes.

Fuck Ecchi
Fuck fanservice
If I want to fap to something I'll fap to actual porn

Snake>Bat>Bee>Snail>Bird>Monkey>Cat>Math>Dark>Crab>Doll

I'm glad there isn't.

Fuck anyone who complains when a character is an author self insert, but turns a blind eye when an author starts inserting their fetishes into a story needlessly.

Patrician taste

>actual porn
I can never go back. 2d porn is just so much more varied and fun.

Any examples you'd like to share of fetishes being forced into things which offends you?

You talk like Sup Forums shit is written entirely by furfags.

Throw snake on the floor and you have yourself a proper list.

There's no middle ground for the easily triggered.

I'd rather throw her on the bed.

It's almost impossible to give cartoons direct money, because otherwise steven universe would be making the most money and not TTG

cuz Christians and soccer moms

People exaggerate the amount of ecchi in anime to crazy extreme levels that have nothing to do with reality, and conflate casual nudity and normal sexuality with ecchi. I'm watching 20 shows right now and I think only two of them have any ecchi to speak of. Anime is ruined now, guys.

Why does liking ecchi require being a hikikomori?

Sexuality in anime and manga predates so-called otaku culture anyway, and even Pokemon had an episode shitcanned in America because it was too sexual for them. Sexuality in anime and manga is not some exotic underground stuff in Japan that only the "wrong" people are into.

Because there are killjoys telling us it's wrong to like these kind of things

To be fair that's from like 97? I'm sure there's still shit like this around though.

Is Rick and Morty the Bakemonogatari of the West?

What makes it the same as Monogatari?

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei

Doraemon.

do you hide it when people come over?

Specific cultural commentary, sexual perversion. They do have very different narrative styles though.

It was but then they realized men liked it too.

I don't think that user was referring to 3d porn so much as porn/hentai in general.

No, but I havent unpacked it since I've moved and haven't had it too long.

No one's actually cared when it was out. Girls already know I'm a loser when they come over.

>I'm watching 20 shows right now and I think only two of them have any ecchi to speak of.
Are they recent? What are they? I know good anime exists, but it's extremely rare for it to be current. Usually it's the old stuff that's good.

Drifters is pretty cool and airing now.

Because, despite the rare instances where the genre is actually embraced to at least a decent level of potential, ecchi is already lame on it's own.

>Where's the middle ground?

Only weebs with no sense of awareness say this regarding fanservice. Unlike anime, western animation doesn't hinge on the wallets of virgin otaku. Think about this for more than a second: animation is already seen as a taken-for-granted art form, so would adding more TnA for nerds to oggle really help?

>people coming over
>ever

That doesn't make them even similar, and people really overestimate the amount and importance of ecchi in Monogatari. There really isn't that much of it.

I meant shows that are airing currently.

> I know good anime exists, but it's extremely rare for it to be current. Usually it's the old stuff that's good.
This is a myth.

Ava Ayala in Ultimate Spider-Man has a few

Because ecchi as a Japanese medium is constructed nowadays as a selling point. The show or visual novel itself means little, and they make very little money off it. Where the market that keeps ecchi alive lies is in the merchandise.

And your average, non-hikikomori individual will probably invest in the original source material but not in the extremely expensive merchandise surrounding it. And that merch is frankly what keeps the ecchi industry alive in Japan. Strictly speaking, the ecchi industry exists to purposely cater to these people because the majority of their profit (perverted merchandise, bodypillows, lewd figurines, etc) is purchased by shut ins. Your average sexually charged adult is probably not going to allow themselves to be seen in possession of that shit.

>This is a myth.
How? It's knowledge I've gained based on experience. They don't make them like they used to, except Fukumoto. That guy is a genius and needs more of his work to get adapted.

There has ALWAYS been shit anime. The reason why it seems like the old stuff is better is because no one talks about or remembers the bad old shit.

Is this not obvious? This is not exclusive to anime either, it applies to every medium. Are you aware of the "born in le wrong generation" meme? Have you used the internet before?

There may not be as much as people say, but it stands out. Although I did end up entirely forgetting some ecchi bits until my second watching because I was so engrossed in the dialogue.

Admittedly it wasn't the most substantial connection I was making.

I agree with your position on anime though.

Shows that are heavy on ecchi are not made often and don't have strong sales. Most character merchandise is not ecchi either.

>And your average, non-hikikomori individual will probably invest in the original source material but not in the extremely expensive merchandise surrounding it.
What does being hikikomori have to do with anything? Do you even know what a hikikomori is?

There's anime merchandise in every prince range and most of it is not expensive. Even figures are mostly not that expensive.

>the ecchi industry
Which is what exactly?

>majority of their profit purchased by shut-ins
You mean for example the half a million "shut-ins" that attend Comiket twice a year? Or the "shut-ins" working in anime, manga. light novels and video games? The "shut-ins" who attend concerts and special events for anime?

>The reason why it seems like the old stuff is better is because no one talks about or remembers the bad old shit.
No, there's always been bad shows but what's different is the ratio of good to bad. It's gotten REALLY bad lately. It's different for the west where it's mostly mediocre and nothing too quality. Anime is mostly bad with a few gems.

and that comic has a 14 yr old with huge tits
so america is also about boobs!

> It's knowledge I've gained based on experience.
It's knowledge you've gained from other people and now you think it was your own idea all along. Either that or you're one of those people who think Cowboy Bebop (or some other mega popular super normalfag anime) is the model for what anime is supposed to be like, and anything that isn't like Cowboy Bebop must be bad.

It stands out because it's the only thing people pay attention to.

>Anime is mostly bad with a few gems.
No it isn't.

Where is your proof? You keep claiming that there are good current anime, but I don't see any. Give some names. The guy said 20, so...

not in the thread, just scrolling but, you need to go outside my friend. maybe meet some girls. you're wasting your life away being so serious on the internet about what? anime dolls?.

>I don't see any
Because you're not looking, because you invent various excuses to dismiss everything without even trying it, or because your concept of "good anime" is some manime you saw in your early teens so now all anime has to be exactly like it.

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm not that user, but if you know how to meet girls you shouldn't be on here in the first place.

Because we all have access to the internet, and therefore all the pornography we want whenever we want

So teasing little moments of almost-softcore-nudity aren't really the kind of thing that will make us run out and buy DVDs in america

I don't know why it is in Japan. They have internet over there too right?

There have been at least 130 anime series made within 2015 alone.

Name 20 good ones with little fan service.

If you can't even do that, then less than 15% of general anime is actually watchable.

Then what's with all the music videos that are almost softcore porn? Why do TV shows and movies have nudity and sex? Why is sex used to advertise things?

??? I don't get it. If it's so easy to find then why can't you just say it? Could it be that you're not telling the truth? I mean, if you're right then you should have no problem listing them.

>Name 20 good ones
You would either fabricate some reasons why they are not good, even if you've never heard of them before, or again your concept of "good anime" is some narrow-minded bullshit, so anything other than your childhood anime is "bad."

And why did you feel the need to specify "with little fanservice"? Ecchi, again, is not nearly as common as people think it is.

See above.

music and sex are tied together for brain reasons

as for why movies have sex scenes, I never got that either

Side note: are webms just completely out the window on Sup Forums at this point? 95% of them load at dial up speeds.

>And why did you feel the need to specify "with little fanservice"?
Because that's what the thread is about. Your refusal to provide evidence because "b-but you'll just say it's bad anyway" is just making you look worse and worse as time goes on. You better provide proof or stop making claims.

>music and sex are tied together for brain reasons
What?

>Because that's what the thread is about.
What does that have to do with this? As I just said, people overestimate the amount of ecchi in anime. There's no reason to specify shows without it.

>Your refusal to provide evidence
I just explained why that's pointless. Did you not read my post?

That was not the point of the first anons post though. It was about good AIRING anime.

Last chance to provide proof or you concede. No excuses.

>I'm bored and need something to watch.

Again:
>You would either fabricate some reasons why they are not good, even if you've never heard of them before, or again your concept of "good anime" is some narrow-minded bullshit, so anything other than your childhood anime is "bad."
So go fuck yourself.

The fact that you are this stubborn in not providing examples in an argument to help boost your point just means you're trolling or never had a point to make.

All of your previous posts have become invalidated. Go back to Sup Forums where you can spout this nonsense.

Again:
>You would either fabricate some reasons why they are not good, even if you've never heard of them before, or again your concept of "good anime" is some narrow-minded bullshit, so anything other than your childhood anime is "bad."
So go fuck yourself.

(Didn't even need to type a new post.)

You're not posting responses because of a predicted response but here you are ACTUALLY posting a rebuttal that is basically, "I'm not listening".

Like, I could argue that it's pointless to respond to you because all you'll do is say, "No it's not" or "It's a myth".

Aw what a cute little troll. :)
Hope this is keeping you up all night user! I can already tell by your posts you have no job.

(you)

I know you desperately need them. Considering you're responding to every single post in this thread, I think getting replies might actually be helping your crippling anxious anti social tendencies you probably suffer from. I'll throw a couple more your way if you want.

Because since we westerners don't have the same weird genitalia censorship laws that Japan does we can produce porn like fucking nothing, we have millions of free and completely uncensored videos at out finger tips, so we don't need some half assed non-porn to get off.

Also fuck that annoying bullshit with the main male accidentally groping or stripping one of the females that ends with her viciously attack him or screaming that weird Japanese ear drum popping cry, that shit is in my top 5's for why I don't watch nip shit anymore.

>you are ACTUALLY posting a rebuttal that is basically, "I'm not listening".
No I'm not.

>Like, I could argue that it's pointless to respond to you because all you'll do is say, "No it's not" or "It's a myth".
I could argue that you are lying.

I have not done any trolling.

>I can already tell by your posts you have no job.
I can tell that you've cornered yourself and now you want a way out by trying to make this thread about me instead, or the things that you imagine about me.

I, again, have not done any trolling.

>Considering you're responding to every single post in this thread
If it bothers you that I respond to your posts, you can simply stop posting them.

>I think getting replies might actually be helping your crippling anxious anti social tendencies you probably suffer from.
You've cornered yourself and now you want a way out by trying to make this thread about me instead, or the things that you imagine about me.

(you) (you) (you)
I'm so sorry for you afflictions. I know it must be hard being this much of a degenerate even for Sup Forums's standards.

Anime once again proving its superiority.

>If it bothers you that I respond to your posts, you can simply stop posting them.

The Man With No Proof:

New anime: 40 year old man posts on Sup Forums with no proof and tries to see how far he can get without getting called out on it
Of COURSE there's gonna be fanservice, are you crazy? How else are we supposed to make money?

Note: this show would still be better than 90% of current anime.

>You've cornered yourself and now you want a way out by trying to make this thread
You LONG cornered yourself by refusing to name just some anime shows to help prove your point. At this point, you're the one who stopped any discussion dead in its tracks and are now just scrambling to get the last word in.

Man, this show was so fucking boring, but god damn.

you assume everyone on Sup Forums can't get girls because you can't? keep telling yourself that. you're normal.

>Hyouka
>Boring
You're just a massive plet

If this is the type of autism anime attracts, then thank God we're not like anime. I'll take the Steven Universe fandom over idiots like this anyday. At least SU fans have a hint of self-awareness to them enough that they can be humiliated off the internet, like that suicidal chick.

that's probably the edgiest moment in Body Bags(which is actually pretty good otherwise), indeed the rest of it is pretty normal in terms of violence(like about the same as your average PG-13 movie, although the cursing would probably bring it up to an R rating cause the MPAA are a bunch of weirdoes), although it kinda does explain why after the original mini-series and one other story, the POV shifts over to another more sympathetic character

oddly enough that doesn't get brought up in the comic all that often, at least regarding her bust size, her age on the other hand comes up somewhat often

Japan has a very substantial porn industry, and a lot of anime and manga porn is made too. So your theory is completely wrong.

>Also fuck that annoying bullshit with the main male accidentally groping or stripping one of the females that ends with her viciously attack him or screaming that weird Japanese ear drum popping cry, that shit is in my top 5's for why I don't watch nip shit anymore.
So you seriously think that cliche occurs in every show, even in ones without male characters?

I, again, was not trolling. If you seriously think I'm trolling then why are you responding? Either you're very stupid or you don't even understand what trolling means.

Yes, that's what I said.

I already told you why there's no reason for me to post "proof."

>Of COURSE there's gonna be fanservice, are you crazy? How else are we supposed to make money?
I already stated that anime heavy on ecchi is not made much and does not have strong sales.

>You LONG cornered yourself by refusing to name just some anime shows to help prove your point.
No, I did not corner myself. I already explained why there's no reason for me to name any shows.

>scrambling to get the last word in.
You're the one bringing up getting the last word. I never mentioned anything about it.

I am not autistic or an idiot. You just can't come up with any arguments.

KyoAni is pretty shit overall though

>keep telling yourself that. you're normal.
Is that first period meant to be there?

Regardless, you can't undermine my self-esteem more than it already is.

Meme.

American Dad does a bit with Francine. It's nice.

>I, again, was not trolling
That's a myth.

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