should the community pay for his or her treatment or should that person just die in the street?
If someone has no health insurance and gets really sick
Joseph Lopez
Nathan Hernandez
They should just die in the street.
Eli Rodriguez
Most American's actually want to replace the ACA with single payer healthcare.
Jonathan King
>If someone has no health insurance and gets really sick
The same thing that happens in Germany, they die. Hospitals here can turn away people who have no ability to pay or have insurance. Are you a proxy shill?
Jaxon Barnes
>should the community
And I thought germans hated communists.
Christian Price
Doctors and other healthcare professionals won't stand for it.
If a person is in a life threatening Emergency they get saved.
If that person cannot pay, it gets written off and the cost is passed down to those who can pay.
You're not going to get a system that just lets people die for inability to pay.
Now, the thing you have to think about is.. if everyone's insured, people go and get PREVENTATIVE CARE more frequently, they have their labs and physicals once a year, that costs a lot less, and can prevent some serious emergencies from happening.
Overall the cost is then lower if everyone is getting $100 checkups and $50 labs once or twice a year, vs $10,000 nights in the ER.
Brayden Roberts
You are guaranteed insurance byl law. Even unemployed get full cancer treatment.
Henry Torres
>MFW I actually have to pay the IRS next year thanks to the stupid penalty.
REEEEEEEEE
Adam Turner
They should die. Death is natural.
Eli Lopez
>Hospitals here can turn away people who have no ability to pay or have insurance. Are you a proxy shill?
This is incorrect. Public hospitals are required by law to provide treatment to anyone, even if they cannot pay.
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Müssen Ärzte auch Unversicherte behandeln?
Ja. Grundsätzlich dürfen Ärzte Patienten nur in begründeten Ausnahmefällen ablehnen, etwa dann, wenn die Praxis so überlaufen ist, dass keine angemessene Versorgung sichergestellt werden kann. Nach dem Arzttermin bleiben zehn Tage Zeit, den Versicherungsschutz nachzuweisen, in der Regel über die Gesundheitskarte. Wer das nicht kann, bekommt wie ein Privatpatient die Arztrechnung zugeschickt und muss sie selbst bezahlen.
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Robert Moore
If the community cares about that person they can raise the money for his treatment.
If not tough shit.
Colton Taylor
>>MFW I actually have to pay the IRS next year thanks to the stupid penalty.
>REEEEEEEEE
HAHA, it costs 600 Euros per month in Germany to get health insurance if you are self-employed.
Go bitch about your 20 bucks tax to your IRS somewhere else.
John Roberts
>You're not going to get a system that just lets people die for inability to pay.
If you put Blackstone guys outside each hospitals with AR-15s, you can make sure doctors do not smuggle people into the hospital to treat them if they cannot pay.
Daniel Cox
I just don't understand the cost.
100K for a few days at a hospital. Where the hell does it all go?
Josiah Scott
doctors would stop working in hospitals and make their own private practices then.
Healthcare workers go into that field out of compassion for other human beings. Making good money is a side benefit but that's why doctors do shit like "doctors without borders"
Jackson Jenkins
>100K for a few days at a hospital. Where the hell does it all go?
(((Corporate welfare)))
Where did you think it goes? An aspirin for 24 dollars, a bag of clear liquids IV 88 dollars, usage of patented equipment for a transcatheter heart valve replacement for 8 minutes plus the replacement valve - 40k.
Christopher Hill
They already do get taken care of via tax dollars. If someone comes in the ER and has a life threatening condition they will be treated and even admitted for as long as they need care. Leeches can cost the tax payer tens of thousands of dollars for a hospital stay.
Emergency rooms cannot turn people away. Of course the hospital gets government subsided and the doctors make a lot of money because of it.
Michael King
Most of it goes to administration, and pharmaceutical companies (the drugs can cost a lot)
Doctors will sometimes drop their own fees for their work if a patient is financially pressed, but it doesn't put much of a dent in those really expensive hospital stays.
Aiden Lewis
>doctors would stop working in hospitals and make their own private practices then.
I doubt it.
>Healthcare workers go into that field out of compassion for other human beings.
You never met a doctor, have you?
>Making good money is a side benefit but that's why doctors do shit like "doctors without borders"
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAAAAAA, Burgers are so funny
Alexander Butler
Yes healthcare in this country is screwed up and overpriced. And some are making a fortune off of it.
Jaxson Cox
>Emergency rooms cannot turn people away.
But they shoot.
Andrew Nguyen
>Tips fedora
How edgy.
Grayson Baker
I don't want to pay for sharonda and shaniqua's heart disease because they can't eat healthy. No thanks.
Evan Cook
>Yes healthcare in this country is screwed up and overpriced. And some are making a fortune off of it.
It is no different in Germany. Your healthcare just costs a bit more, but that is due to certain added inefficiencies in America (such as overpaid doctors and overpaid nurses).
Caleb Roberts
Too bad because you already do. Sucker!
Blake Fisher
die in the street
Noah Howard
Yes I work in Healthcare. A lot of doctors are greedy as fuck, partly because there is so much money to be made.
ER doctors where I live are earning like $250-300 per hour lol. That's $2500 for 10 hours of work.
If ur a doctor who travels to rural areas, then u can make like $500 an hour lol.
Jordan Jenkins
We already have that, they're called Emergency Rooms and free health clinics
>Mfw Europoors still think they invented "free" healthcare
Kayden Powell
>"community"
>Enormous government bureaucracy centrally planning healthcare that forces you to pay for every lard ass, smoker, skateboarder, and useless fuck against your will
Dylan Adams
Europe did you fucking mongoloid.
>The first move towards a national health insurance system was launched in Germany in 1883, with the Sickness Insurance Law. Industrial employers were mandated to provide injury and illness insurance for their low-wage workers, and the system was funded and administered by employees and employers through "sick funds", which were drawn from deductions in workers' wages and from employers' contributions. Other countries soon began to follow suit. In the United Kingdom, the National Insurance Act 1911 provided coverage for primary care (but not specialist or hospital care) for wage earners, covering about one third of the population.
Michael Murphy
I know, but they shouldn't get service if they are too greedy to leach off of society.
Brandon Hall
the community should pay to ensure that they die on the street.
John Nelson
I agree with this. There way too many fatasses, smokers, alcoholics, dumbasses, etc. that are an unncessary burden.
Somebody with a legit genetic condition or involved in some terrible accident? Yes, they should be taken care of.
People who are unhealthy because of their own choices should be purged though.
Anthony Brown
they should die in the street for not being productive enough to get a job.
but we should bring back jobs by killing free trade and fuck the central banks so we can make America productive enough that all citizens can do that
KYS for this shit tier bait ahmed, I know guns are banned there but we could probably sneak you one.