Redpill me on the 4th dimension, Sup Forums

Here's my take: It's Jewish bullshit. You all claim math is an untainted academic field, but how do you explain the idea that the 4th dimension is propagated by mathematicians?

I understand the concept of more than three dimensions in terms of understanding the relationship between X number of variables in Cartesian space. What I don't understand is why the tesseract exists.

I can't see a four dimensional square. I can't even picture it in my head. Why would the Jews make something like this? Just to make math another feel good field?

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>this thread will get lots of posts

What's your fuckin problem you ponce?

The fourth dimension is mostly considered as time. The graphic there is just stupid.
Also, stop seeing "muh joos" everywhere, science is science and there are bizarre theories because certain fields can only be theorized about at the moment.

>stop seeing "muh joos" everywhere

hello newfriend, google Frankfurter Schule and how its ideas have overtaken all sciences, with math in the question as pointed out by the op

The fourth dimension is not "considered time" retard. All dimensions are physical.

Each dimension is a right angle off the previous one. The tesseract is not some fabricated concept. Don't be dumb senpai

he meant the fourth spatial dimension tho

I've been to the 4th dimension on DMT. AMA.

pick up a compass and straightedge for the first time in your life and then come back and talk about dimensions

>4th dimension is considered time
I see you primarily read children's literature then

Also KEK is commonly considered a god. It is not a god. KEK actually is pure math, it is the code needed to construct the time cube. AMA.

Did you see any memes? How's your posture?

Time is not orthogonal to length, width or length. space-time is as nonsensical as time-temperature.

>ideas have overtaken all sciences
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Explain to me how you make something orthogonal to the third dimension. I'm waiting. Tell me where you put the ruler perpendicular to it.

Sway back on DMT. I saw the code. Literally saw elves constructing time space. We are all antennas. Reality is perception. But physical structure is simply math. We perceive things because our brains are literally antennas, consciousness is connected universally, we are all one as is nature and every object. To get past our dimension one must ascend. The time cube can do this. Praise kek.

It's pretty simple. 2 points for a line, 4 lines for a square, 6 squares for a cube, 8 cubes for a hypercube. You can see the 8 cubes, you just get distortion from loss of dimensions.

Dimensions, all three of them, are orthogonal to each other. Time is not a dimension. It's a measurement of relative movement. Calling it a dimension is as ridiculous as calling temperature a dimension.

Tell me more, dmtman

>We perceive things because our brains are literally antennas, consciousness is connected universally, we are all one as is nature and every object.

are you just shitposting or what because I conceived this same idea when I was a very small child

You can't because you only view the world in three dimensions because you have only two eyes. Ask the fishes with seven eyes to put the ruler. Why would they even need more than two eyes if there weren't more than three geometrical dimensions?

Wtf are those elves? Terence Mckenna talks about them.

>i'm mad that i can't visualize an extra dimension the thread

go read flatland and fuck off. jews don't have anything to do with this jesus christ.

No, I meant spatially. I'm not the retarded German who became retarded by sucking too many Muslim dicks.

Source? I don't think having another eye would make you see in four dimensions. Wouldn't the eyes need to be in some special alignment anyway?

If the outer cube is static and the inner cube rotates independently purple monkey dishwasher

everything is actually part of a multiverse rather than universe. boundless numbers of dimensions.

Nice bait senpai

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Bad troll you are

I said
>Time is not orthogonal to length, width or length.
If you could read you might could parse that statement, as "time is not orthogonal to length, width or length" and thus not be so idiotic as to ask me how it can be orthogonal AFTER I CLAIMED THAT IT IS NOT.

>I don't think having another eye would make you see in four dimensions. Wouldn't the eyes need to be in some special alignment anyway?

Yes, fortunately there is an eye with just such an alignment

>Wouldn't the eyes need to be in some special alignment anyway?
Not sure with more than three eyes. You see, just like two dots define a line, three dots define a plane no matter how you align them.

Remember the last time Nazi retards wanted to push the "Jewish science" meme?
Do you? Do you remember Deutsche Physik? Do you remember why it ceased existing?

>time is not a physical dimension
Wow, now Sup Forums's theoretical physicists really impress. Sorry, I'm just a regular physicist.
In every applied field, time is, whether it is 0-dimensional as many claim or not, used as such.

>Tesseract is not some fabricated concept
I did not say this, however, the tesseract's rotation like in OP's image is only sensible when you understand what that implies: The thing you claim to see as the geometrical body actually isn't the body but its projection. Simplified, it's like in Platos cave, I guess.

Well, I met some people that are considered highly influential in their respective fields and they do not seem to have any connection or plot. Uni's structures are highly politically biased in general, I give you that.

3x 2d images does not make a 4d depth perception. You would need 2x 3D imaging organs with different positions in 4th dimensional space to be able to get 4d depth perception.

>Do you remember Deutsche Physik? Do you remember why it ceased existing?

The Jews, right?

because the "fake jewish physicians" started working towards the atom bomb, meanwhile deutsche physik had nothing

They can make more sense once you understand how they'd work to someone in three dimensions

I had to run a dnd campaign with one of these as a dungeon, you get weird shit like the only way to get into the central room of a hyper dungeon cube is to go through a door in the same direction twice, it's interesting really

ITT: Not everything you can't understand is jews

4th dimension is time you idiots

Space-time isn't a dimension. It is a perspective.

In other words, it was the Jews, is what you are saying.

Actually the Kikes are on the 7th dimentional plane. Existing as ever-transcendant being of pure energy in the center of the multiverse complex. We must give up on 14/88, we must join the Jews, they are everything there once was and ever will be, they are eternal love

eh, my statistical mechanics are a bit rusty but I don't think so.

>You can't because you only view the world in three dimensions because you have only two eyes. Ask the fishes with seven eyes to put the ruler.
If fish were as adept mental masturbators as humans are, they could probably work out the maths for three dimensions but they wouldn't need to do that to posit our existence (at least not the ones caught and thrown back).

OP is talking about the 4th dimension in geometry.

Just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean that the concept of a 4 or higher dimensional space doesn't exist.

Most things in a four dimensional space can be derived from what happens when you go from 2D to 3D. Let me show you a few examples:

Take a line. Duplicate it and move it along the Y axis. Connect each new point with the point from the old line. You got a square.
Duplicate this square, move it along the Z axis and do the same as before with each point. Now you have a cube.
Then duplicate the cube and move it along the W axis and connect the points with lines. Congratulations, you just made a tesseract.

The same concept can be applied for triangles and tetrahedrons, where you introduce one new point and connect it with all existing points each iteration.

What OP posted is just a projection of a tesseract into two dimensional space. Imagine the projection of a cube onto a plane. When looking straight onto it, you see two squares inside each other connected by 4 lines. As you rotate the cube, the rectangles change shape and position. The very same is happening with the projection of the tesseract.

Here's one more analogy: In 2D space, shapes can be rotated around a point. In 3D space, shapes need to be rotated around an axis. If you extend this concept to 4D, you have to rotate a hyperbody along a plane.

Fun fact: You can tie a string into a knot in 3D space, but if you take this knot into 4D, it will untie itself. Instead, you need to tie planes.

For some more info, watch this video from Numberphile:
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>on DMT

go back to /x/ you fucking junkie, no one wants to hear about your stupid elf dreams.

I take your explanation but why the fishes have extra eyes then?

Oh oh! Can we do Time Dilation and why the speed of light is the fastest anything could ever move in Universe?

I love that one.

I smiled

I really am fuckin stupid, though. Hopefully that kraut is humbled by this.

>ITT: Not everything you can't understand is jews

it's Jews all the way down

t. Legolas Greenleaf

Increases field of view.

That's pretty cool, man. Mind if I steal that for a video game? I can give a shoutout of some kind if you want so you know it's me.

not sure what fish you mean but many amphibians and aquatic reptiles, if I recall, have a light sensing primitive eye that looks up at the sky for shadows which are threats

if you mean deep sea fish they probably have extra eyes because an array of small eyes can gather more light than one big eye that is too big to fit on the fish's body; it's kind of how radar arrays work too

>extra dimensional mathematics is a jewish trick

Please go back to /sci/

I'm actually really hoping for an answer. The whole concept is just slightly beyond what I can retain. I can understand it given a lot of study, but as soon as I stop thinking about it, it slips away from me.

ITT: people who watched 3 videos on youtube about the 4th dimension and now feel smart about it

Some people ask is God real. Well it is real. I say it because God is literally in front of you at all times. Your physical surrounding is what I call god, pure consciousness. Imagine before the big bang, how did matter form?

Consciousness itself manifested into matter. The body you have, the trees that give us oxygen, the water in the ocean, all of this is tied together in a pattern. A universal consciousness if you want to call it that. Our brains are like antennas that perceive light, physical structure, everything we see is in fact a wavelength tied together. When you die you become part of this. To be honest I truly believe physical matter formed out of this consciousness , it got so strong it formed what we know as matter.

Do not fear , fear is not necessary. We are all one, it's very hard to understand and I am not making this up. But in the end we are all connected and intrinsically tied to eachother. Once you realize this basic truth, everything starts to make sense.

Also primitive creatures like mollusks and jellyfish have lots of photoreceptor organs because they haven't evolved the complexity required for a big contained eye, and wouldn't have a brain to process it if they did

>Wow, now Sup Forums's theoretical physicists really impress. Sorry, I'm just a regular physicist.
>In every applied field, time is, whether it is 0-dimensional as many claim or not, used as such.
You mean it's conflated with dimension. Literally positing and putting it in the same category as dimensions is no less ridiculous doing the same with temperature. Length, width and height are pinned to things tangible and absolute.

>The thing you claim to see as the geometrical body actually isn't the body but its projection
Are you talking about the reality prism bro?

y = ax1 + bx2 + cx3 + dx4

There's your fourth dimensional representation of your position, y = f(x1,x2,x3,x4).

Also, to OP's pic:

>2 dimensional representation of a 3 - dimensional object representing a 4th-dimensional object

Shiggy diggy

why do i always miss the fucking math threads god damnit
okay listen up
first order of business; theoretical physicists are wizards, don't listen to them when they talk about extra dimensions until you've got a solid mathematical background

in mathematics, the dimension of a space refers to the cardinality of its generating set or set of basis vectors

mathematics is the complete opposite of jewish trickery
if something is true under some given axioms, it will always be true, and anyone can derive that it is true
mathematics also requires lots of abstract thinking and other helpful mental skills which the jews don't want you to possess

and instead of actually spending 5 minutes learning the ultimate universal truth that is mathematics, you decided to skip the googling, and shitpost on Sup Forums instead

>Descartes' ontological argument's counter
>I think therefore I am

But how do you know you're doing the thinking Descartes?

tfw DMT man came up with this conclusion on his own

This. Jews are currently in the 7th dimention working on getting into the 11th. but things get expontially much harder (even for kikes) as you enter the 8 dimention. There might still be hope for the Goyim struggle in the 10th dimention because of space-time fluctuation creating periodical 11th dimentional conditions in the alternate multiverse complex where there might be a goyim transcendant energy timespace-cloud

Praise kek friend.

Honestly shit posting friend but I still believe what I wrote.

I'm not afraid of death anymore, but I'd like to believe my consciousness doesn't just cease forever after I die. Did dmt show you any kind of afterlife?

We are three-dimensional, so we can't truly understand 4 dimensions.
Anyway, technically, time is the forth dimension, so I mean to say that we couldn't understand five dimensions.

The after life is pure energy famo. Do not fear. All stress and anxiety come from fear. Once the truly knock out fear from your process in thoughts you will be free.

I've always theorized we could read minds via "smoke signals" off our heads if we built the right tech...

Answer to what?
Sorry, I'm just now having my coffee..

It wasnt my idea originally, I was inspired by a map I found some time ago on the internet

Look up info on a hypercube dungeon, its pretty insightful

Likewise. The counter argument to yung Descartes resounded in me.

There exists a big pool of thoughts. Our minds are antennae that tap into these thoughts, picking up on relevant frequencies.

Howabout this first You're reminding me of molecular science with your post.

Time dilation and why nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

er I meant my response to

Nigga the 4th dimension is time.

I'll still shoutout...

Ok. And I recalled wrong, it was the spiders and not fishes. Probably the restrained mind of a three-dimensioner can explain spiders also with 3D logics.

Imagine the first dimension, with two points along it, one, and zero.
0
Then you add a second dimension, also with two points that are labeled one and zero
10
This signifies a point which is at the first dimension's 0 position, and the second dimension's 1 position.
Then you add a third
010
And then you put this three dimensional thing in a box, and then put that box next another box. Label the boxes 1 and 0
1010
And then you can do that last step ad naseum to get as many as you like.
That's all of the nuance behind it.

God is infinite but as such He cannot behold himself.
Thus He shattered his being into minuscule fragments which combine and decombine and recombine into matter and energy and minds and souls so that He might behold Himself and understand His own being
Why are we here?
We are the result of God asking that same question of Himself

anyway this is what I've kind of believed for most of my life
maybe it's silly, I don't know

love is 4th dimension

What are we talking here? Linear Algebra? Metric space? Set theory? It's just a specific case to a general construction. "Visualizations" (i.e. projections of higher dimensions onto lower dimensional spaces) can be done in many ways, but isn't as useful for understanding the algebra as you might assume.

>there are people on Sup Forums right now who can't into math involving more than three dimensions
honestly kill yourselves

If I close one eye I still see in 3d. What does this mean?

For spiders it's easy, it's for field of view increase because most of those are simple eyes, like little back view cameras on a car
Depending on spider the main eyes may be pretty damn good too, jumping spiders have incredibly high resolution main eyes for aiming jumps

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I'm a white mathematician, there is nothing jewish about the tesseract or the 4th dimension.

The tesseract exist as an idea and as a name. "Tesseract" is jut a fancy name for the 4th dimensional.

What you have in your picture is not the tesseract, is just an idea of how we could imagine the construction of it. The tesseract does not look like that since we can't draw or even imagine the 4th dimension.

Mathematicaly the 4th dimension and higher dimensions is useful for the understanding of the real world. Some real world problems will mathematically be in the, lets say 4th, 5th or 6th dimension or even the infinitly dimensional space.

Hope this helps! :)

your brain does all the image processing so once it has a 3D image you can close one eye and your optical processing center will still remember the distance mapping that it already saw.
also you can bob your head and it gives you depth perception with one eye, that's how the pirates used to aim their cannons

Sorry was slopy writing, I meant ""Tesseract" is just a fancy name for the 4th dimensional hypercube."

Okay but do I get to experience more cool shit after life or is this it?

I realize it, but I wish I could conceptualize it better to make beautiful art. I've been seeking inspiration for some time now and slowly but surely it's coming. Right now I feel like motion is the key. Sound.

Very cool shit. Will make this look like a joke.

Harness that man. Make beautiful art. Praise kek .

Ok then howabout species with only one eye? They perceive the world in 2D. Why a species with 100 eyes wouldn't perceive more than three dimensions?

hes talking about kardashian space you have to use nigger maths. they cant count to 4 so time was changed to not existing

>Inductive reasoning implies the existence of physically impossible hyperdimensional objects

Praise him who is most high

The forth spacial dimension is infinite 3d spaces adjacent to each other
In the forth dimension you can see part of the third dimension simultaneously
The "direction" of the forth dimension is everywhere
Anyone who says time is the forth dimension is a faggot retard

The influence of the Frankfurter Schule is overrated Adorno was anti-degeneracy and many of his ramblings on culture are quasi reactionary, he even hated jazz.