The recent move by obama to transfer ICANN to the UN will end global free speech
The reason they are doing this is pic related. I implore you to read it.
When we can talk to one another and share information we cannot be effectively lied to and so we cannot be effectively manipulated. By gutting free speech they intend to do nothing less than to lobotomize the world
We must discuss the best tactics for preventing this from happening - call your state senators and politicians
We must think of workarounds to the system - How to set up our own DNS - Usable deepweb chans - Ways to avid detection on the deepweb
Chans have magnified the power of Trump, of Euro-skeptic movements, of burgeoning nationalist consciousness around the world. We must not fall, for if we do their will be no alternative to institutional media - and when that happens those in power will control all the information we use to make decisions, and therefore, the outcome of said decisions
It is a very well written petition with many supporting links.
Thanks very much for your help. Please share this wherever you can.
Matthew Flores
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Grayson Garcia
The threat as I see it is that ICANN will now be able to threaten hosting companies with range bans to get them to comply with banning specific websites
Before, ICANN was granted a legal monopoly status by the US government and so would be in violation of its terms were it to start banning content based on triggering speech - now that it is no longer located in the US, that is not the case
Joseph Hill
yeah. As for both situations, it was a good run.
Leo Turner
We can stop it
We've memed Trump to top contender status, we can do anything we put our memes to
Hudson Hall
Why do you think they are "giving it away" instead of selling the contract. Its a done deal , they are just waiting for the ICANN to finish spering before it goes to the EU and under Soros control. if not for that, it would be over on 9/1
Benjamin Phillips
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Angel James
ITT: idiots who should take a basic networking course.
LISTEN UP YOU RETARDS.
>what is ICANN? ICANN is an international non profit based in the US that has always handled DNS. The US government has de facto legal control over it. International organisations such as ICANN, ISO, IEEE with various universities have always managed and created the infrastructure of the Internet.
>What is DNS? Domain naming system(DNS) is a database server in your Internet Service Provider that matches IP addresses to domain names. ICANN standardises it so every ISP from SingTel to Verizon has the same database by being in charge of who gets which ip address. Why DNS is important is so end users don't have to memorise IP addresses to go to their desired site.
>can DNS be used to censor information? No. The government could disrupt and delete domain names that prevents people from accessing sites by typing in their names but everyone would notice and external DNS databases would crop up. Or they would just learn the IP addresses of websites.
>Is the government spying on me? Yes, look up the Five Eyes program. Many governments work with ISPs to search and extract potential threats to their government, mostly terrorists. It has nothing to do with DNS or ICANN.
Kayden Thompson
So what can we do? how will we use the internet after? I'm guessing it won't just disappear in one day, so memeing for trump before the election will stay, but what can we do?
Mason Long
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Caleb Torres
>The DNS can't be used to censor information >The DNS matches IPs with domains
Pick one
All they need to do is redirect a domain or refuse to resolve it
Juan Collins
The best bet now is to make people aware of it
This has two benefits: 1 - The more people that know about the threat, the more people that will oppose it and the more politicians stand to gain (in terms of votes and support) by vocally opposing it 2 - It will catch the attention of the technologically capable and push some number of them towards creating alternatives
Noah Martin
Are you even trying? This has nothing to do with Hillary >redirect it And host an exact site copy hoping no one will notice? The government would have to rig up an exact chan with real time posters.
>don't resolve it People will notice if no one gets through. And IPs would quickly spread through the Internet. Honestly if the government really wanted to they could just get a warrant and take down the site server like with Kickass torrents or Silk Road.
And by the way, the US is actually relinquishing control of ICANN and letting it run itself. It is not going under the UN.
Bentley Barnes
>Hoping no one will notivce So what if they do notice? They can make most people not care by saying that they shut off access by preventing the spread of "Hate Speech"
Sure there will be ways around it but they can massively decrease traffic by making access impossible for all but the tech savvy, which greatly reduces the power of those that go against the imposed narrative
Logan Wright
Shouldn't we open them on Sup Forums then? Also I'm stocking on tons of torrents now lol
Ryder Cruz
I hope we can all drink the Kool aid and die together.
Aiden Nguyen
That is a good idea, want to help me spread the message?
Nolan Martin
Well in China or Singapore, in the US the combination of public backlash and violation of free speech laws would destroy it.
That doesn't get rid of the two problems with your supposed censorship theory.
1) The US government is RELINQUISHING control of ICANN, not taking control of it. And no, it is not going to be under the UN.
2)It is much more effective to just place a ban on IPs on local ISPs, or just shut down the site with a warrant. DNS is a convenience service, it is not essential to the Web.
Tyler Parker
Sup Forums's modicum of networking knowledge let's them see this is a bs conspiracy. Go make a thread there and try.
Camden Jones
>Stocking up on torrents for when you go innawoods Very clever, my little hook-nosed friend
Dylan Rivera
let it die
the internet has failed
it is a panopticon and mass propaganda machine
facts are censored by search engines
history is rewritten by wikis
events are twisted by the media cycle
the internet is kill let it die
Colton Phillips
This, when the internet dies it will be like one massive redpill getting shoved down the publics throat
Adam Baker
I have 120 torrents running at the same time, and that's only for anime and tv shows, haven't started to download movies
Matthew Fisher
you might need this
Samuel Rogers
Currently researching what it is.
Jackson Bennett
I'm more concerned about ICANN conforming to the censorship demands of individual countries
As for shutting the sites down with a warrant, that wasn't possible for mere speech violations when ICANN was stationed on the US
Owen Ramirez
Even if im extra paranoid le tinfoil hat, I will just have the torrents I wanted already downloade in my harddrive. It's win-win
Oliver Ortiz
Bullshit, the internet has for the first time in history broken the monopoly on information dissemination by the elites - now we can talk to eachother and receive our information from sources they don't control
You're defeatism isn't even logical
Zachary Gomez
When this goes through and people realize that free speech has been cut off won't this make people stop posting 'man this sux' on facebook and start going out and protesting? Essentiallly doing the opposite of what they want? Just want to know.
Connor Turner
>implying only USA is able to handle internet properly >implying USA was actually protecting freedom of speech >implying USA losing control over ICANN is anything but good
Kys. Also, sage
Zachary Adams
Leave and never come back, faggot.
Kevin Sanders
>The US wasn't protecting freedom of speech
Clearly you know nothing about speech laws throughout the rest of the world
Owen Turner
Clearly you are a naive child that still thinks laws matter to your corporate overlords.
Grayson Myers
Clearly you're a shill.
Logan Wright
>cu++Klx9 cuck confirmed
Parker Powell
If you legitmately believe that the US does a worse job of protecting freedom of then your cucked country, then you're an idot - show me one case of a person getting arrested or, fined or having their domain or property seized for speech violations in the US
Show me one
Jayden Stewart
>implying people won't just go full bread and circuses You act like the people have agency my m8
Michael Ortiz
Its not really that bad, far too many companies rely on the internet staying exactly as it is, they will never allow the risk of opening this Pandoras box, I promise you.
Thomas Jones
But that's the beauty of it - our dank memes are breaking their way into the circus!
Our humour spreads the redpill all the better for the decadent times we live in
Owen Perry
the internet is to normies as tendies are to autists. Don't underestimate that.
Samuel Wood
ummm...is it happening?
Benjamin Barnes
There are no major companies that would be affected by censoring speech that goes against the popular narrative
Connor Clark
>The recent move by obama to transfer ICANN to the UN will end global free speech
It's a Sup Forums makes shit up and then people freak out about it episode
I've seen this one b4
Isaac Cruz
I always blamed the internet for things like the SJW uprising or bronies. It allowed people with ideas or interests that would be shot down in social circles the ability to connect and form large groups -when drawn from a pool of billions of people- instead of remaining in separated, isolated areas effectively killing the mindset.
I also blame the internet for undermining belief in the kike-run media to its current record low, so let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Jordan James
It's guy attempts to diminish the severity of a threat to the only force capable of standing up to the elite
I've seen this one b4
Wyatt Scott
What threat? Obama isn't "transferring ICANN to the UN" you ultra sperg
Justin Carter
R A R E A R E
Christopher Moore
yes he is
Thomas Perez
This is about as much about letter agencies spying as it is about the next generation in the US being told that even debating certain topics is off-limits.
But that wasn't the point: Your corporate elites don`t care, and they are the ones having the control. They don't need to limit free speech in the law because they can simply prevent you from seeing certain topics. That starts with facebook preventing certain news from trending, continues with twitter banning people having polarizing opinions and ends with google simply removing sites from its search results.
Isaac Martinez
Cultural singularity soon
We must make it our culture
Adam Smith
Provide 1 source.
Josiah Wilson
No, but when ICANN leaves US jurisdiction, there becomes no way too enforce domain ownership. Unless you point DNS servers statically to a trusted DNS server, you have no guarantee that "www.google.com" actually points to the site and not some Chinese phishing clone.
Bentley Bailey
ICANN isn't under US jurisdiction, ICANN sets policy unilaterally and the US is bound to it.
Zachary Perry
ICANN is beholden to no government. No government has no legal authority over an international non profit. It's like if Russia barges into the Red Cross and start dictating how they spend their money. There is no legal or moral obligation, the only way possible left is force. Which is pointless because the databases are scattered all over the world.
Local ISPs however are.
>shutting down sites wasn't possible when ICANN as under the US government Yes it was, China, Syria, Singapore have done it many times, through local ISPs. No government has ever tampered with ICANN, ISO, IEEE.
I have no idea where so many people seem to be getting this bad information but whatever source it is it lacks basic technical knowledge about the Internet and censorship.
Dylan Fisher
Slight lessening of red tape at ICANN.
Isaiah Kelly
Of course they can do that, but their control isn't complete because sites like the chans exist - however if they gain control of the DNS, they can't prevent normies from reaching such sites and thereby massively increase their control over the information people recieve
David Bailey
You have no clue what you're talking about.
Ryder Wood
>(((international))) Fuck of kike worshiper.
Chase Ramirez
Start arguing any time
Camden Young
I can't, you've not provided anything which is factually correct.
Parker Richardson
Meanwhile Germans get thrown in prison for having bad thoughts about rapefugees on zuckerbergs kikebook
Leo Reyes
We shouldn't let internationalists get control
Samuel Gutierrez
According to your unbacked assertions
Charles Martin
how about you show me a single source for the foundation of this retarded thread "obama to transfer ICANN to the UN"
The US government oversees ICANN, its not in control but you can be sure it has influence. My point is, majority of the companies that stand to be affected by this are American companies, they have a vast interest in keeping ICANN structured exactly as it is.
These companies do not won't to enforce censorship based on rules handed down from the UN, there's no financial incentive too.
>call my governers office >talk to someone not bill haslem >begin talking about ICANN and obama selling the internet and how I want it stopped >they cut me off >ask me what im talking about >start flaundering because i realised i have no idea what im fucking talking about >they as well have not heard of "obama selling the internet to foreign nations" >tfw memed by Sup Forums again only this time I look like a complete idiot after giving them my name.
Fuck you guys
Tyler Lewis
YOU IMPLORE ME?
Alexander Lewis
Dead within a week
Josiah Jones
sorry hoss gonna need something from the white house, because this is just conjecture
ICANN has been independent for 20 years, we've had this thread about 6 million times now
Robert Ross
Oyyyyyyyyy
Matthew Stewart
Im no L33T H4X0R but doesnt the ICANN just give out the names for domains. Doesnt that mean if a website is blocked you cansimply visit it by using the dns adress instead of the domain name?
Anthony Howard
>but you can be sure >Muh opinion
John Cruz
ווויייי
Connor Cruz
so to clarify there is no source that Obama is selling an independent organization that the US government doesn't control to the UN?
Luis Sullivan
Tell that that the US should not allow it's contract with ICANN to expire and allow the organization to contract with foreign governments because no other country in the world has the commitment to freedom of speech that America does - simply put, we cannot trust any other country to have any measure of control over the internet
Jackson Thompson
dude
Asher Allen
There is a source, but you won't acknowledge it because you shift the goalposts
Jackson Johnson
The fuck are you even talking about.
The internet is not going anywhere. Paranoid retard.
Jacob Gutierrez
Yes, but the threat is that they can greatly diminish traffic to 'bad think' by making internet users have to jump through hoops to reach the correct domain - the average normie is not capable of doing so and/or won't care enough to expend the effort. It doesn't outright cut off communication, but it greatly stifles it
Jackson Rodriguez
I'm failing to see the place where this shows Obama is selling ICANN to the UN.
>I have a source but I won't provide it
Nathan Evans
The source was already provided to you by eZj2+ZRx
You ignored it because it wasn't posted by the white house itself which you wrote explicitly here
Matthew Howard
That wasn't a source, it was a news article based on conjecture.
Connor Sanchez
Now it`s a threat? In the OP you very clearly stated that ending free speech is the sole reason they are doing this.
Seems like you are either confused because you don`t know what you are talking about, or making shit up because you want Sup Forums to do your work for you.
>Posting the ID instead of linking the post I want retardchanners to leave
Jeremiah Reed
if they tried anything they would get hit just like the newyork stock exchange was multiple times for stopping trading and reseting hours worth of trades
servers just a pile of scrap metal with capacitors melted to the mother boards and shit. M.A.D.
Jayden Gonzalez
>Now it's a threat Anything is a threat until it's actualized, seeing as ICANN has not yet been transferred, it is indeed still a threat
>Posting ID Nitpicking is for people grasping at straws
Tyler Miller
>any of this >a threat take a networking 101 class or something jesus christ you fucking nigger
my 12 year old sister knows more about this shit than you
Wyatt Collins
So I take it that you are just believing this, as you have nothing that actually backs up your claim except some clickbait that talks about the possibility that something completly harmless happens? Or, in other words, your OP was nothing but hyperbole.
>Nitpicking is for people grasping at straws Nitpicking is for people that don`t come here from the retarded clone of a site to spout equally retarded opinions.
Jace Murphy
>seeing as ICANN has not yet been transferred
ICANN has been independent for 20 years mate, the contract on IANA is being released.
You don't know what you're talking about as i6zbdK6s said.
Aaron Williams
There is a lot less institutional power behind the chans then there is behind stock trading jews
As much as I want to believe what you say, I don't think that the retaliation would in any way prevent or make up for what would be taken
Luke Wright
Daily reminder this is not bullshit, obongo's pulling the trigger on it oct 1, and those telling you not to worry about it are either tards who don't understand it or leftist faggots looking to subjugate dissenters. >muh precious global narrative!
Ameribros, call your representatives every day. Congress can veto this shit but they need to do it fucking soon.
John Moore
ICANN was not indepeendent, they were granted legal monopoly status by the united states government in exchange for their services being in accordance to what the US wanted - you can't honestly believe they were granted this status and then were allowed to act in any way they wish
