The Idle Army: America’s Unworking Men

>Millions of young males have left the workforce and civic life. Full employment? The U.S. isn’t even close.

>During the past half-century, work rates for U.S. males spiraled relentlessly downward. America is now home to a vast army of jobless men who are no longer even looking for work—roughly seven million of them age 25 to 54, the traditional prime of working life.

>Not even in dysfunctional Greece or “lost generation” Japan has the male flight from work proceeded with such alacrity.

>What do unworking men do with their free time? Sadly, not much that’s constructive. About a tenth are students trying to improve their circumstances. But the overwhelming majority are what the British call NEET: “neither employed nor in education or training.” Time-use surveys suggest they are almost entirely idle—helping out around the house less than unemployed men; caring for others less than employed women; volunteering and engaging in religious activities less than working men and women or unemployed men. For the NEETs, “socializing, relaxing and leisure” is a full-time occupation, accounting for 3,000 hours a year, much of this time in front of television or computer screens.

>The male retreat from the labor force has exacerbated family breakdown, promoted welfare dependence and recast “disability” into a viable alternative lifestyle. Among these men the death of work seems to mean also the death of civic engagement, community participation and voluntary association.

>Imagine how different America would be today if another roughly 10 million men held paying jobs. It is imperative for the future health of the country to make a determined and sustained effort to bring these detached men back—into the workplace, into their families, into civil society.

wsj.com/articles/the-idle-army-americas-unworking-men-1472769641

What the fuck is going on with you yanks? Menkää töihin!

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Millennials are lazy swine.

t. boomer

Seems like MGTOW is gaining steam. I'm worried.

The skilled labor is off loaded and the mindless is going to robots.

Confirmation bias.

Then men choose to fall out of society, it's not a situation encouraged by the failing work force?

Change immigration and divorce laws, which will never happen because corruption in the White House is now rampant.

Sure as hell won't be foolish enough to marry, and all of the jobs are being outsourced or given to Pablo.

>make it difficult to get jobs
>inflate prices of everything
>allow women to destroy the concept of family life
>demoralize white guys for simply being white guys
>wonder why they dont care about society anymore

Perhaps if white men were not made out to be the boogeyman in their own nation things would be different. Perhaps if the boomers weren't greedy disgusting swine the economy and job market would be better.

They've created a system where white men are vilified, criminalized, and marginalized. They also created a system where we can easily retreat from society as a whole and live off of tax payers. Now the country is collapsing without our support and they're panicking.

Burn it to the fucking ground, purge the cancer, rebuild anew from the ashes.

>The male retreat from the labor force has exacerbated family breakdown, promoted welfare dependence and recast “disability” into a viable alternative lifestyle
Mainstream media has completely lost touch with reality. They have the cause and effect entirely backwards.
Family breakdown exacerbated male retreat from the labor force, welfare dependence and the recasting of "disability" into a viable alternative lifestyle have promoted the male retreat from the labor force.

Our government and academia is built entirely around implementing the Cloward-Piven Plan.

>It's everyone elses fault that I'm sitting at home shitposting 24/7 and not doing anything with my life

Sure, we do have disadvantages and handicaps, but right now you're acting like a nigger in terms of 'I can't do it because of m-muh oppression'

Current society and economy are shit, doesn't matter how much you work from a scratch, you'll never own and build a house like in the old times, the only way to get anything is through debt, want a degree > ask for a loan, want a house > ask for a loan. Boomers made economy a pile of shit. Thanks to illegal immigration business owners no longer need to incentive young people to work since Pedro, Juan and Paco are willing to take any job for even less than the minimum wage. In the end you'll work your entire life just to pay debt, rent and more debt and most of the money you make will go in taxes, funding shit I even hate, like migrants benefits, the army ultra expensive budget, boomers social security and your boss luxuries.
I rather live and die as a selfish parasite than a mindless useful pawn of this shit economy.

b-b-but da joooz ;_____;

I have a good job and contribute to society so I don't know what the fuck you are on about.

I am explaining why others think they can't do it.

Pretty much this. I still quite frequently stress the FUCK OUT about what I'm doing with my life, but then remember that I've spent a considerable amount of time, energy, effort, and money on being conventionally successful and it's been thrown back in my face year after year. So now that I'm running up on 30 I've reached the conclusion that unplugging, and no longer giving a fuck is my best choice if I wish to retain my sanity. I really don't have to work very hard to buy myself things I like, and live a comfortable lifestyle so why bother to put the effort forward?

I mean I've had my fair share of long term relationships and the only thing I've really learned about them is that they are fucking EXPENSIVE and women are fickle, at best, and treacherous at worst. Just a few months ago I started getting texts from an ex, who is now married, wanting to talk about how she's been married for a month and cheating on her husband now.

Sure you can still play the game and win, I'm not saying it isn't possible, but holy shit this is so much easier.

>NEET
not employed, educatable, trainable

He's using an example as a whole while you're projecting onto him as an individual

Please think next time you post

Its not an I can't, its an I don't want to play this game.

Well, not me, Im pretty happy and adjusted.

>yes goyim
>just go to work and pay half your paycheck in taxes so Shaniqua and her ten spawn can eat fried chicken and snack packs all day

Well it's hard to tell, thanks for clearing that up senpai.

This so fucking much. The freedom and technology we have nowadays is mindblowing. There's literally no excuse why somebody can't get employment. You can freelance online or start an online business with the click of a button.

money stacked up like pablo peso after peso

I'm an 18 year old sales associate and I'll be going into the Air Force so this ain't me.

NEET here. I spend a lot of my time volunteering locally and perform duties at my local house of worship.

What's happening is we can't get work. Automation of HR departments mean younger men are immediately out competed by anyone with a tiny bit more experience over all other metrics.

Even though I do have connections and have made relationships with local managers, I can't translate that into actual employment.

After the 6th round of final phase interviews where you are called 2 weeks later to be told they've "filled" the position, you really want to give up.

Wow good argument, I guess that means you should act like a nigger and live off autismbux while living off your mom until she dies?

Good choices, AFSC?

this desu

>available jobs are all shit
>typical college degree required to work retail at $10/hr
>available women are all single moms or toxic SJW Lena Dunham wannabees with more tats than a Hell's Angel
>grow up getting shit on by feminist dyke teachers who hate men and told that we are garbage
>spend entire childhood high on ritalin or adderall, lose sense of self
>housing costs are 40% above what they were before the last crash
>video games are actually pretty fucking good

it's not rocket science, WSJ. a lot of guys feel marginalized and would rather play CS:GO all day than jump headfirst into the shit sandwich that is modern life

What's wrong with that?
If it means it will help make the system come crashing down (or slowly rot, rather), so be it.

Let it all fucking burn.

Nukes in 15 minutes.

NEETing is the best thing I've ever done desu.

Sounds like a case of a poor guy boycotting Porsche AKA the fox and grapes syndrome. But hey, keep telling yourself that. Whatever lets you sleep at night.

So you're admitting you're a nigger.

>hard to tell

What is reading comprehension

Lets examine what men have to look forward to:

>get into a good college and work your ass off to do well at a complex subject, while everyone around you parties and drinks because they study "history of art" or some shit
>get a job in an office because no-one actually values your skills, it's all about being a bullshitter and everything you worked for at college is useless
>work 9 to 5 surrounded by bitchy women for shit pay
>commute for 2 hours because your wife wanted a house in the suburbs and she would leave you if you refused
>go home to your used up whore wife who fucked around in college and now wants a free ride
>spend a small amount of time with your children, who she is gradually turning against you
>eventually she decides that she is bored with you and demands you move out
>resist and the police will force you to leave and prevent you from seeing your children ever again
>move into a depressing divorced guy apartment with other men
>get fired because HR decided they wanted more diversity, or because you held a door open for a woman
>embarrassed to see your own children because you're such a failure, a fact which your wife takes care to constantly remind them of as they grow up
>turn on TV, it's women complaining about men, or gays complaining about men or transexuals complaining about men
>drink to take away the pain
>if you're lucky, you have the courage to kill yourself in front of your children next time they visit and tell them it's mummys fault

Not even MGTOW or anything, but the social contract which made marriage and work worth it for men is just non-existent now.

>video games are actually pretty fucking good

Dude, you should rejoice.

Every man who isn't working is someone that isn't being co-opted by the system. In other words, someone that won't resist change, in fact, will probably look forward to it.

>flood country with illegal cheap labor
>young people cannot find starting low end jobs
>high end jobs even with a master require years of work experience
>whaaaa why don't they just get a job
I have a master degree and graduated very well. I was lucky enough to be able to have a couple of retarded starting jobs afteer my master. And even that was not enough for me to find a long term job in France, not to mention a job with a pay that would ave allowed me to start a family.
I'm just grateful that now I can work in my family business and shitpost when no customer comes in

You made no mention in your first post that you were working, had a good job, and contributed to society. So yes, I was going to make an assumption because if you take a look at this thread, we have a lot of filthy lazy NEET's proud of the fact that they're parasites.

You have no idea what it's like over here.

Every job I've had for the last 5 years was from family. White males are being destroyed in America.

Before I hit this situation I was a hiring manager at a CVS and I literally saw my white friends online applications vanish for not being brown enough.

I'd rather be a nigger than a nigger enabler fampai

>tfw south africa seems more appealing as a white male than the US

excuse me what

NEET here

I was your typical kid. Played sports. Gifted academically but lost motivation. Parents divorced. Coasted through school.

Join military. Go infantry. Inspired by movies like Platoon and Black Hawk Down. Honorable Discharge.

Enter school. Go abroad. Get back and realize what a joke my education is. Drop out. Go to VA. They say I have transition issues and I'm an alcoholic.

Get bennies. Financially secure. Mortgage.

Struggle with feeling that I have no satisfaction. Wish I would have died overseas. Can't stand this new era of leftism.

What to do /pol?

Tell them to lie about their ethnicity

If you are white and have dark hair or a big nose, claim youre a jew

If you have slightly brown skin, claim youre a native american

If you have neither of those things, claim youre a tranny or something weird like that

They cant check to verify any of these things and if youre willing to act the part they cant really stop you.

Upside down Poland gets it. I'm 1.2 years into my first real job after college and I'm still 4 years EXP away from even being considered for anything of value because the mid-level skill labor subgroup or whatever they call it is essentially overwhelmed with everyone who couldn't pursue work in the low-skilled jobs due to a bloated labor force and we're all fucked now because companies will only consider people with an absolute shitload of work experience now. If you don't know someone, you really can't get anywhere until you're about 40.

Where are the articles about rampant unemployment in black communities that's been an issue for decades? Why does the (((media))) only get concerned when young white men don't work?

I feel you bro. Very similar situation, and Jesus fuck I wish I knew what to tell you.
Honestly I think I'm going to revert back to my Lance Corporal days, get a bunch of Micky's and get black out drunk.

Because they are trying to demoralize and destroy white men. Do you even read this board?

You mean hiring quotas that favor women, laws that favor women, a court system that favors women, all while being told we are the ones with power can add to an atmosphere of apathy among young men?

Who woulda thought?

because that's just "black culture"

The entire nation could crash and burn and the niggers would be fine with that since they can live off almost nothing since they're creatures of gib me dat.

But you sitting around being like one isn't going to change anything. You just come off as a defeatist who's looking for any excuse whatsoever to live off of others.

>pajeets and chinese can get a masters degree in a bullshit subject from a cheap public school paying in state tuition without being able to speak intelligible english
>employers and HR depts. are ignorant and reverse racist and assume asians are good at semitechnial subjects so hire them for high paying bullshit jobs
>americans are articulate, are less inclined to exaggerate about their skill, and are aware of the bullshit nature of most of these jobs so end up appearing less talented

I've clawed my way through utterly incompetent pajeet managers who were paid for skills they didn't have, it's unbelievable how easy it is for them to take advantage of the system. This country does not support american workers in meaningful positions anymore. Party due to lack of technical education, and a managerial culture with hr departments that have no knowledge of anything. Some things are changing, a local cheap college quadrupled out of state tuition, but it seems to be really easy to get in state even if you're coming straight from overseas.

>Who are America’s new cadre of prime-age male unworkers? They tend to be: 1) less educated; 2) never married; 3) native born; and 4) African-American..

archive.is/VHKyx

...

Women wanted to be the breadwinners now they are crying when they get their way. Deal it, cunts. The hard work + child-rearing is all yours now.

Yup. And I'm lucky considering that my family is rich enough to support me. I can't imagine what the hell poor people are supposed to do other than giving up on society and start committing crime

But unemployed young black men isn't "new"...

Based Texan

thats what im doing

literately no other choice.
go ahead and tell me that working to taxes to the jews is better.

when the cunt dies ill get a house and some cash and some life insurance moneyz.
gonna sell house stak dem phat sacks naw i sayen nigga, then move the fucking hell outa this liberal shit hole.

go to gods country where its mostly white and cold and rural. live like a fucking king.

then i might get some part time wagecuck servant job maybe just to keep the money from drying up.

MGTOW is Jewish Propaganda to carry out White Genocide.

Man there's an influx of Berserk posters

>waah, keep the system alive pleaaase, why don't you play the game like me, i'm a good worker, i work in advertising and retail, i'm important

>literally atlas shrugged
Except rand was wrong, it's actually the working-middle class white man keeping the world ticking over, not the business classes.

>take a CS class for a master's degree
>Only non-indian in the class
>the indian guy who I have to sit next to since the whole class is packed full tries to copy my work all the time

Literally disenfranchisement.

Its not easy to be a young man these days; distractions are often abound, and often times it pulls our attention away from what matters. My life is not particularly hard. But its not the hardness that bothers me. but rather that of an endless malaise. Unemployed and with few entry level prospects, even those of us who are educated find little solace even in meager entry level employment. Instead we waste our time with frivolous pursuits, such as porn, video games and internet surfing or living the "scene" lifestyle. Our parents are also willing to indulge our lack of initiative, if only out of pity or mercy.

Men are often found in a peculiar position these days. Masculine pursuits and institutions of masculinity are intruded upon and told to concede to forces of "equality" and "progress", which are nothing more than pretenses for an agenda of grievance. We are told to be sensitive, empathetic, and engage in identifying with our "feminine" sides. We suffer in education, graduating less and less in a school system that doesn't engage us. The prospect of divorce has deincentivized marriage and family life entirely. We make up for a large majority of successful suicides, homeless, and casualties in war. In an act of infantile rebellion, we engage in a self destructive lifestyle that has us resign from responsibility and manhood. If that's what being a man is about, what incentive do I have to engage in it?

Those of us who aren't resigned to a culture of degeneracy and self indulgent narcissism find little comfort in our morality. While we aren't sacrificing our dignity and values, our righteousness makes for a cold bedfellow.

Never watched Berserk

i just liked the picture senpai

im a simple guy

If by chance, if ever when the time comes, you'll be rounded up and sent away with Jemal and Tyrone for being the parasite you are.

You like to complain about the Jew, but you are the very inventione of the Jew, what the Jew wanted and has gained over the past 60 fucking years. Congratulations you useless sub-human.

This was my reality when I did work for a non-family business.

The turnover rate was horrible, niggers got fired every other month and they'd only let you hire a white man after going through hell and high water with multiple niggers fired for not showing up for work.

Almost no one knows how bad it really is over here for white guys who want to work.

I'm pretty sure percentage of NEETS among black males is higher than white males.

So that means the government will enact more leftist regulations in order to stop the inevitable collapse and ramp up its attack on productive members of society?

Seems more than likely.

I have been NEET for a while now and not entirely by choice. Literally nowhere will hire me. I have applied to warehouses and not even they will hire. In fact, most want people with prior warehouse experience. I am not joking.

I try to get jobs through nepotism and that doesn't work either.

It's fucking stupid. Plus, some places I have applied to sold my information. A temp agency did, I know that for sure. I get a lot of scam calls now along with marketing in my mailbox. It's fucking shit.

I want to create my own job but I have $30 I am sitting on. I can't afford to get a car and our public transportation is nonexistent. I am thinking about suicide.

It is.

Whats funny is that a lot of them are huge fucking nerds and weeaboos, but because of roody-poo culture, they have to hide their power levels.

New Berserk is airing this season so it's bringing in new people.

Why would it be frowned upon to go back to a life of homesteading and self-sufficiency instead of existing to slave for jews to enrich them while receiving a pittance, financial problems and disastrously unhealthy levels of stress that end up killing us while Schlomo Goldstein reclines on a beach in Tahiti?

Behold, the 'superiority' of the modern white male. You faggots should be ashamed of yourselves. Your ancestors created civilization and now you do absolutely nothing with your lives. You deserve to lose your country to immigrants.

>hating NEETs
>posting picture of a NEET

You have my prayers, brother.

Keep up the struggle.

Fuck man it's amazing.
I literally just want an ok job that I don't really like but keep because it allows me to feed a family of 4 - 5, with a house that has an hour long commute one way because that's what the wife wants, enough money left over to take a vacation once a year or so, but not enough money left over to really buy myself nice things because I spend it on the kids instead.

But nope! That entire idea has been destroyed, but the expectations are still the same. So where the fuck do I benefit bending over backwards to make women and our sheckle overloards happy? Short answer is: I don't. So fuck it. Make just enough to buy shit I like and life off of until I die.

Well put, user.

The point you are missing is that both the men at the top and the men at the bottom are necessary to keep society functioning.

If women suddenly stopped working, however, the economy might actually improve.

I should have guessed by the file name.
News to me. I probably won't watch it though.

why not regress to the country side and live a simple hillbilly lifestyle being free what keeps you in the city? honestly the country side is where its at if you want to live comfy work hard and find you moralfag waifu

The sad thing is that you have the choice of sacrificing your morals or your well-being.

Either you live a degenerate, or a slave.

Sad times we live in.

>no jobs at all until i turned 21 due to school
>first job ever was at a walgreens (pharmacy in midwest area)
>supervisor was a bitchy fat female
>work with lots of qts and like 1 other guy
>occasionally flirt with some of the qts
>supervisor has the hots for me and texts me constantly
>tell her one day not to bother me unless it's work related
>next day show up
>i've been fired for sexual harassment
>one of the qts i flirted with reported me
>the 1 guy there said apparently the other girls been trying to hook me up with the supervisor because she's depressed and just got out of a marriage
>hire an attorney
>he contacts the dept of labor
>tells me there's nothing he can do because a woman's word on sexual harassment in the workplace is the only evidence most of them need for a firing

Back to video games

You know the worst part?

I was skilled enough to train store managers, but they never made me one, they sent a lazy fat bitch that drove the store so far into the ground I quit after running it alone as manager for almost a year before she showed up. Yes the regional manager was a nigger.

>>tells me there's nothing he can do because a woman's word on sexual harassment in the workplace is the only evidence most of them need for a firing
>Back to video games
Tfw our ancestors would have gone to war over this bullshit.

returnofkings.com/83983/its-becoming-easy-for-single-men-to-drop-out-and-live-on-minimum-wage

If you don't have a wife and kids to support (via economics and feminism) and your desires are modest, you can slack by on minimum wage. After all the whole economy is geared towards getting women buying things, not men. So if there's no woman in the picture, there's not a lot of buying going on. Nobody's really marketing to men, other than video game companies and car companies.

About the only thing a guy would spend money on, if single and there weren't video games in the picture is his car. But with the advent of vidya and the interwebs (and high gas prices there for a while) there's not the same desire to work on the car as there once was. And a lot of apartments won't let you either.

And there's no need to buy a house with a garage if you live by yourself. Even then you can often get by with a smaller cheaper house in a less prestigious neighborhood (don't need to care about schools for one, don't care if the neighborhood isn't "family friendly").

It's just amazing how much downsizing you can do, once you cut the woman out of the picture (or she cut herself out of the picture) and now that you've downsized, you can downsize your job too.

All of this is not good for the economy or the debt masters who need your nose at the grindstone all the time. But it's their fault really. They could've prevented the divorce laws from getting so kooky. They could've made it harder for single men to slack by as they do, made it easier to get married early.

I don't really care anymore, bring on the chaos. I know I'd rather be a single man in the coming chaos than a single woman, that's all I have to say. These angry independent empowered bitterbitches are going to get curbstomped when it all finally comes collapsing down.

>Go to website to apply for min. wage, entry level job
>They want a professional resume
>They want detailed work history with phone numbers and addresss
>They want two professional references and one personal (non family) reference
>They want your Social Security Number
>They want tax forms
>They want a 40 minute "personality assessment" that just asks the same 10 questions over and over again
>Why aren't people looking for work anymore?

Slavery is worse. Never ever choose slavery. Even death is preferable.

As someone who unfortunately lives in Central Maryland, one of the most diverse areas in the country, this is true. Niggers don't like to work and are as stingy as the Autistics in here.

It's amazing how many Autistics here despise niggers (Can't blame you), yet they have soooo much in common with Tyrone. Both of which huge determent's to society with a surplus of excuses of their 'plights'

And even for things that they claim to support, I guarantee you, they don't actually contribute. Much like NEET's here who are in favor of Trump, how many of them have been to a Trump rally, donated, or became an activist in someway to further the cause of the conservative movement? Likely none. They rather watch anime or play Minecraft all day and sometimes bathe when their mother nags them about how their odors flood the house.

I am honestly just getting a little discouraged. I know I can't work in places like fast food or straight customer service because I cannot deal with people, so I know my limits with it and try to get on with menial labour or stocking. Months ago I applied for a small hardware store and got to the phone interview. I was told they were looking for someone with more retail experience. This was for stocking. It's such bullshit.

Hell, the other day I applied for a job in asset protection for Best Buy. Got rejected via email but when I checked the job boards again they had reposted the job. It was very aggravating. It sucks not even being in control of my own life right now.

>apply in person in our store!
>we do all of our hiring online now so if you went to [website] you should be able to do it

hey commonfilfth

Take out a loan, buy car, get licence and start driving school.

You guys need to start a business. Or start writing a blog and monetize it. Make red pilled Youtube videos with robot voice overs. Something, anything. You say it's impossible to get traditional 9-5 jobs, well, maybe you are right. But that doesn't mean you can just sit on your ass and do nothing except jerk off to porn.

Do something productive.

I'm a NEET because I'm depressed and have no motivation to do anything. The last job I had I was treated like shit so fuck them, I'm fine doing nothing.

I was the senior person on our customer service team. I had two double minority (black and female, and brown and female) coworkers who didn't do anything. Naturally I complained several times over the course of several months to HR. They of course did nothing. I eventually have a "yeah well fuck them" moment. Fired the next week.

Jesus Christ.

FUCKING THIS

If you go to the store and tell the manager you applied and that you have experience they just yes you to death anyway. It's because of laws that you have to say you're hiring and even do interviews every couple of months.