Hello Sup Forums, I am a former member of the detroit PD, I served from 2014 to 2015. I experienced the worst of the worst conditions possible for police officers to endure, and i have a limitless amount of stories from my 1 year stay, some of which i would like to forget.
I originally moved to detroit because i wanted to make a difference, I had originally thought that if the people of detroit had a more friendly police force, or if i could relate to them, that this would decrease crime.
I couldnt have been more wrong.
Shootings are daily, we start off the morning by sending out the "paddy wagon" to search for dead bodies. Lots of the crime goes un-reported due to the "no snitching" attitude of the people living there. The last statistic we ran was that around 80 people out of 1000 will be killed in the hardest areas, basically you had about a 8% chance of being shot any given day. We hardly even patrol the hardest areas because its just too dangerous, these animals are so brazen that they will openly brazen guns at us or even shoot the squad cars.
The last straw for me was when we were conducting a raid on one of the homes on lincoln street. We had gotten a tip that they were using one of the MANY MANY abandoned houses as a drug distribution and cutting center. During the raid I had to kill one of the suspects because they shot my partner in the chest. His vest stopped the round but that could have been me, and it could have landed on my head or neck. After that i quit and moved back to san fransisco to work at their local police department.
My view of black people has totally changed, Im still nervous and on edge around any black people i meet, regardless of the situation. I no longer believe that all the races are the same after having to endure that hell.
No i will not post any pictures of my uniform, badge, or gun. Our job is so hazardous in detroit that basically every piece of our uniform is able to identify who we are in case someone kills us.
So after 3 weeks the area was uninhabited i assume?
Angel Miller
What kind of people work in the Detroid PD? Their motivations? Do they see a future in Detroit?
Joshua Morgan
I know your exgf Angela.
David Peterson
Now I know what happens when you let monkeys escape from the local zoo
Levi Bailey
Don't blame you officer, the immortal words around blacks never relax still rings true.
Michael Flores
how many niggas did you smoked?
Brandon Mitchell
this
Zachary Morgan
some people are just stuck there, The pay is absolute shit and there isnt really and room for promotions. its a dead end job. I was lucky enough i had money stored up that i could move to somewhere else, the police are stuck there like the criminals are
its all uninhabitable, its hard to explain how different of a world it is
Josiah Smith
are you still a cop if so where do you work now also have any greentxt stories ?
Cooper Barnes
What's her last name
Justin Wilson
I fucking love japanon's
David Jackson
Why do you hate african americans?
Caleb White
I only killed one, most of them are amateurs when it comes to fighting and shooting, so we can take them down without having to shoot them most of the time, but shootings are not uncommon My partner was forced to run over someone because they were shooting at his car
I am still a cop, if you want stories just ask about what, i have basically seen it all now.
Jose Morgan
Angela M.
Kayden Hughes
Would you ever consider being a police officer in England, where you get to arrest people for buying cutlery?
Jason Perry
M-Merkel?
Jace Torres
>its all uninhabitable, its hard to explain how different of a world it is
Please explain how you actually believe detroit has an 8% DAILY shooting rate. Theres only 300 murders ish on average in detroit yearly. So how are 80 people a day getting shot in one area?
Go troll somewhere else.
Ryan White
Why are so many Michigan cops criminals themselves?
Josiah Barnes
So was this your first experience around blacks. Saying this is what made you racist and that you thought you could make a change plus being from San Francisco makes me think so
Gavin Lopez
What is your stance on gun ownership?
Thomas Lopez
What is standard procedure for going into one of the more dangerous areas? Do you guys just take a lot of backup with you or do you go in like a patrol in Afghanistan?
Owen Morris
>The last statistic we ran was that around 80 people out of 1000 will be killed in the hardest areas, basically you had about a 8% chance of being shot any given day.
no wonder you're a cop rofl
Kevin Morgan
Sorry you had to experience that, but you are better off taking that redpill.
Justin Sullivan
basic math. detroit is a huge city but the murders are concentrated so we're talking 100,000 people with 200 people being killed a year. Watering it down with the rest of the relatively peaceful suburbs is dishonest.
Jordan Young
have u witnessed some corruption there? i believe its the best thing u can do
Gavin Price
Michigander here Do you guys still have that special gang force?
Is there any hope for detroit?
How do you feel about Bill Clinton saying that syrian refugees should 'save' detroit?
Landon Rogers
our department run statistic was that for about every 1000 people, ~80 would be killed in gun related deaths, last time i checked 80 is 8% of 1000, dont believe what the city tells you, its much worse than they want to admit.
i dont know about all of michigan, but the people i worked with were not corrupt and were some of the most devoted men i ever met
LEGAL gun ownership is ok imo, the problem we have is that they simply steal guns and swap them around as they commit murders with them. I think there has to be punishment for those who dont properly secure their guns because they end up in the hand of criminals.
We never go into the most dangerous areas unless we get a call or we absolutely have to. You ALWAYS have you partner with you and you ALWAYS expect to have to get in a shooting with someone. We dont even patroll places like warren ave because its so dangerous. But when we go we go in pairs and more than one squad car
Adam Green
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Jose Hall
something about this guy
William Williams
not really, almost all of the crimes are gang related so have a special gang task force is redundant. We do separate ourselfs from the undercovers and experts on gang activity, but the two have kinda merged due to lack of funding.
Kevin Stewart
Fuck you pig. I hope your daughters are raped.
Aaron Reed
Spotted the nigger
Kayden Russell
I doubt it. Cops are drunk driving, weed smoking thieves.
Tyler Hernandez
t. Nigger
Ryan James
Do you have any advice for someone just getting into law enforcement? I'm in a fairly well off area, but it is becoming more and more "multicultural" by the day
Jaxson Bennett
San Fransisco though? Damn man you really went from one to the other. I'm guessing that was intentional given your experiences.
What are some things that surprised you about the people in the area? I'm assuming you didn't really know what it was like.
Julian Green
>our department run statistic was that for about every 1000 people, ~80 would be killed in gun related deaths, last time i checked 80 is 8% of 1000, dont believe what the city tells you, its much worse than they want to admit.
Right, but you're mixing up the time intervals. 80 deaths per what? Day? Year? Millennium?
Tyler Reed
8% chance of being shot any given day Assume all shots are fatal 92% chance of survival every day 0.92^21=0.1735 After 3 weeks, 17.35% of the population remains
Juan Perry
How do you tell what kind of drugs a nigger is on?
I heard that place is swarmed with homeless and nude people
Parker Rivera
It's not the cops you should be worried about tough guy.
Samuel Cruz
I think he said 80 per day
Colton Cook
>fuck you pig
Evan Brown
What is the absolute worst neighborhood in detroit?
Evan Wright
>i hope your daughters get raped Well you would know a thing or two about that wouldn't you tyrone.
Why don't you piss off and let the nice police officer talk to people here. Thanks!
Oliver Gray
80/1000 people dying of gun related deaths != 8% daily shooting rate
Sorry to be autistic but a shooting rate that high would be enough to kill every single person in under a year
Elijah Perez
8% of the population of Detroit is not getting murdered every day.
Jose Lewis
Weed? Nah, that isn't the drug that cops abuse. What 1 in 4 to 1 in 3 are abusing is STEROIDS. Remember that the next time you hear about a cop freaking out and shooting everyone. It's roid rage.
Every time you interact with a cop it's like playing Russian Roulette. Be polite, it costs nothing. Time to be rude is later on with the lawsuits. Of course niggers, they couldn't be polite if they tried...
Ayden Wright
pretty sure he ment per year since per capita is usually counted per year
Grayson Watson
dont trust anyone, ever.
so much better i cant even quantify the difference.
yes, people who smoke pot reek of it and. people on crack or coke are jittery and paranoid. Heroin makes them act like zombies, and pcp makes them go batshit crazy
Carson Brown
Welcome back to SF, user. See you around the station ;-)
You're in good company, just keep it low until...well you'll know when. SHAKE UP SOON!!!
Oliver Turner
Neck yourself nigger i hope a cop kills your child
Isaac Martin
>black lies matter!!
Michael Moore
>a shooting rate that high would be enough to kill every single person in under a year if you really want to be autistic, then no, it wouldn't kill everyone at some point there would only be one person left, and you can't murder yourself.
Wyatt Barnes
Your opinion about US issues doesn't matter. Fuck off EuroNigger
Nolan Myers
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Ayden Smith
Is being a cop in America scary? Anyone can have a gun, just like you.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Don't you have some liquor store looting to get to hoodrat?
Ryder Robinson
BUILD A WALL AROUND..... it could pay by itself just leaving the population going FERAL and later open some sort of Hunting season!!!!L
Wyatt Torres
How much of the violence is drug related? Either someone dealing, someone enforcing payment/turf or someone using? How much of that violence would go away if drugs were legalized?
Chase Williams
what do you think of the kratom ban? any cool stories of san francisco tech scene?
Zachary Sanchez
I did a little rough math
Assuming that you're referring to a 80/1000 liftetime shooting rate
Assuming the average lifetime is 70 years
.08/(365*70)=.000003% daily shooting rate
Which is still pretty high, that means over the course of 10 years roughly 1% of the population can expect to be shot and killed
Colton Edwards
I don't think it's daily. And well, Detroit's population has been declining over the decades. You could say all the people that could leave, have already left and the rest of slowly killing themselves.
Dominic Perry
the worst part is going into siuations were there are so many unkowns.
the person you are pulling over could just pull out a gun and waste you.
Noah Ross
Pretty obvious that his stat meant 8% lifetime. Compare that to the 0.003% chance for the rest of the US.
Colton Harris
almost all the violence is gang related, steming from the drug economy there. And you cant legalize this shit, ive seen what stuff like heroine and crack does to these communities and im telling you it needs to be illegal to have, use, or produce.
Noah Fisher
>Im still nervous and on edge around any black people i meet, regardless of the situation.
I can relate and it is understandable, but this is nothing but psychology. Make friends with one or more black people and eventually you will reset. Other wise you will not recover and start believing 4 chan bullshit about races.
Our you can live the rest of your life being twitchy for no reason around black people who are totally harmless.
Camden Cooper
To be fair he said in his OP "You have an 8% chance of being shot every day" which does not sound like lifetime rates to me
Connor Thompson
Detroit is a shithole just like Rio and about 80% of the middle east.
How about we do them a favor and just put them out of their misery?
Grayson Gray
not if you control the situation, why dont they teach you guys to fuck people up?
i mean look, if its sketchy at all, my gun would be out and in my hand and the driver or whatever would know that i am going to fucking kill him if he fucks around
and if he tests that then i would draw down on him and order him to the ground and cuff him then check his shit out
fuck police policies
you need to be more military
Aaron Lee
typical Sup Forums to get hung up on a number like proper autists
David Perez
Fucking Sup Forums not understanding what OP meant by 8%.
>Imagine it like a list of 1000 outcomes >920 of them say "Live" >80 of them say "die" >Each day, you pick one at random (Go into the worst areas of Detroit) >When that choice is selected, it still remains on the list >Chances of choosing "die" are still 80/1000, not 80/999
Fucking basic statistical maths, lads.
Landon Flores
Numbers are important swedecuck
For example, there's a humongous difference between "10% of swedish women will be raped by imported Arabs while their beta men stand by and watch helplessly per day" and "10% of swedish women will be raped by imported Arabs while their beta men stand by and watch helplessly in their lifetime", the difference is several orders of magnitude
Christopher Moore
>Move to San Francisco to be police officer >much safer than Detroit >get assigned to Tenderloin >get knifed by homeless crack addict
Elijah Johnson
Day of the rope is coming nigger where will you run?
Mason Morales
This is what I was getting at.
Juan Green
That is because you are too stupid to infer meanings from language. Not your fault, but please shut up and let the smart people talk.
Jace Adams
I don't think you recognized what the actual objection to the statistic was
Everyone understands what you said, it's just that if it were true, 99% of people in detroit would be killed by gunshots in under a month
Chase Reed
But they're getting the drugs anyway, aren't they? All you're doing is just setting the price higher.
And people wouldn't be shooting up heroin, they only buy that because it's concentrated and easier to hide and smuggle. They would be smoking opium. Same thing with cocaine, they'd be drinking coca leaf tea, not smoking the concentrated freebase. It's the same reason most people drink beer today and not hard liquor, like they did during Prohibition.
You've heard of functional alcoholics? Alcohol is just as corrosive to society, but somehow alkies find a way to get along and feed their addiction too. Yeah, it's not great, but they're not. causing. chaos.
Stop trying to make a perfect society, it's never going to happen. Aim for one where the people on these drug crutches can hobble along without causing chaos. You do like order right? Not a fan of chaos? What you're doing with the drug laws is causing chaos...
Elijah Bailey
What do you think is the solution to the gang banging problem in the USA?
Jackson Nguyen
MY KID COULDA GOT KILLED
Jace Rivera
I inferred that when he said "you had an 8% chance of getting shot per day" that he was talking about daily risk of getting shot, which seems pretty reasonable to me
If you hear "You have an 8% chance of getting shot every day" and you infer "You have an 8% chance of getting shot in your lifetime" you don't understand the (extremely large) difference or you're kind of dumb
Jaxson Evans
>I originally moved to detroit because i wanted to make a difference >After that i quit and moved back to san fransisco to work at their local police department.
As someone from the Bay, who the fuck are you? Why would you move from legitimately the best living conditions in America to the worst? Makes me feel like this is a roleplaying thread.
Isaac Taylor
my question would be what is the moral of the local police in detroit, and do they all think of the city as a lost cause? Given employment and buisnesses have gone elsewhere, what is left to serve and protect?
Henry Torres
Yep. Cops and Firefighters abuse testosterone.
Hudson Carter
dude i dont know what universe you live in but you cant be more wrong.
these people are not gonna "sip coca leaf tea" or some shit like that, these people are desperate and will shoot heroin with a dirty needle, like they already do, and spread aids, like they already do.
Pot isnt the problem, its heroin and coke, addicts breed more addicts.
William Reyes
what is the worst thing you have ever seen/heard a nignog do?
what is the funniest thing you have ever seen/heard a nignog do?
Blake Edwards
drugs and money, and the fact that gang culture is idolized
i saw so many kids look up to gang bangers like they were heroes
Lucas Hall
i dont know what i was thinking, i thought i could make a difference. noone can
Jason Sullivan
Y'all are going to arrest and rape Kaepernick?
Jose Roberts
would probably join for the sake of shooting degenerates
Gavin Brooks
Get out nigger.
Daniel Turner
its the human condition, all you can do is provide these drugs to the highest purity and in the cleanest manner for the cheapest price
when you legalize all this stuff the homies on the corner get destroyed by capitalism
just like what happened with rum runners and bootleggers
when the stuff is legal
no one goes to uncle billy in his basement to get rum
they go to the store to get the best, cheapest rum or whatever rum they want
these are facts and you need to start seeing them
history happened
prohibition happened
this is literally the same thing
prohibition 2.0
Andrew Cruz
Michigan goes hard California pussy
Christopher Smith
the worst thing ive seen a "nig nog" do is beat someone to death with a hammer. apparently he had owed him like 3 dollars so he brought out a claw hammer and started bashing his head in. We arrived just in time to see him picking out his brains with the hammer
The funniest thing ive seen someone do was when they were drunk and disorderly. We stopped him because he was wondering around drunk, told joikes the entire time so we brought him to the drunk tank and cleaned him up, gave him a fresh change of clothes
>I'm so proud of the fact that everything I have is in the middle of a desolate shit hole, and babies like you can't handle living in hell like I can!
Aiden Wood
>a human life >3 dollars That's just fucking sad. Not just because it's a very low price for a life, but because he could have easily paid him that back a little later so the whole killing is completely meaningless.