Denying the people's right to self defense is the ultimate human rights violation.
Forcing people to leave their security in the hands of a governing body is not only preposterous, but out right criminal. It is impossible for a government to protect their citizens 24/7, a police officer takes minutes (after a phone call has been made, if it ever was made) to get to the scene of a crime.
If the citizen of a country that has forcefully disarmed it's citizens by means of confiscation or threat of criminal charges, gets harmed in a situation where the use of an outlawed weapon could have protected them, THEN the governing body of that country should be held accountable and compensate the individual or their family for failure to effectively prevent or stop the crime from being committed.
We all know this would never happen, but it details just how weak and subservient we as a people have become.
EVERY MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO A FIREARM, NO EXCEPTIONS.
There is no morally sound counter argument against this.
Some might claim that the safety of the majority is at greater risk if people are allowed to carry weapons, the problem with that claim is that they are assuming that the police is protecting them now, when its been stated earlier that they aren't. A criminal will break the law and get access to guns regardless.
GUN CONTROL ONLY HURTS CIVILIANS NOT CRIMINALS.
Liberal anti-gunner's fear does not stem from the idea of firearms, but from the idea of having to be responsible for their own safety.
This argument also extends to the type of weapons the people can own and carry. The muskets our forefathers used were state of the art at the time,but now they are no match for modern day machine guns, therefore the people must have access to them to ever hope to stand a chance against a criminal government.
Laws that place restrictions against certain weapons are a direct infringement and should be attacked or ignored.
I have yet to find anybody who can have me BTFO with a counter argument.
I'm the most patriotic Fulkerson here, and will defend the 2nd amendment passionately.
Some might say I'm too pro gun.
Camden Lopez
ready
Xavier Baker
We get newfags here everyday, it's best they get educated during their brief stay.
Cooper Torres
DELETE THIS
Camden Moore
Bump
Samuel Barnes
Nah
Michael Martinez
B-b-but WHAT ABOUT THE CHIL'UNS user?
Easton Hughes
Can anybody please convince this Tiger to turn over his sharp dangerous claws?
He doesn't need them, if he's ever in danger I'll go and help him instead.
Owen Watson
SHALL
Ryan Allen
Children were never safe, gun free zones are death traps because they make mass shootings stupid easy.
Michael Ross
NOT
Joseph Cook
I'm all for people owning guns, but I don't think people should have nuclear weapons. I can't reconcile this logically, as all arguments about guns can be applied to massive weapons such as those.
Jayden Peterson
what is this from?
Blake Barnes
That's ok. You'll never empathize over the grief for children who died because you Amerifats wanted their boom-toys.
is that RPG deactivated or did you nab one of the few legal ones?
Jaxon Cooper
Yes, better the children move to a place with heavy gun laws, like Mexico. I hear it's very safe.
Adam Campbell
empathize =! exploit.
Grayson Harris
Nah I was thinking Australia. Common-sense gun laws have worked very well there. So little violent crime per capita. But no, gunz r so cool, buy now before the mean liberals take them away
Jason Sullivan
>Hourly Gun Rights Thread
10 U.S. Code § 311
Fuck any arguments about wants or needs. You can even go so far as to forget arguments about rights. Thanks to 10 U.S. Code § 311, combined with the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, you can view the ownership of guns as a duty to all true freedom-loving Americans.
Why, you ask?
Because 10 U.S. Code § 311 declares that all able-bodied males between the ages of 17 and 45 years of age who are, or who have publicly declared an intent to become United States citizens are all members of the United States Unorganized Militia. The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution extends this further to all American citizens, no matter their age, health, or gender.
Sebastian Hughes
BE
Ethan Morris
What will stop a criminal (person who breaks the law) from breaking the law to get a gun?
Tell me?
Tell me who successful the drug war and prohibition worked out?
Tell me how drugs and alcohol were perfectly controlled by the boys in blue?
Fucks you, I hope your father gets cancer in his pancreas and falls into a severe depression, so much that he stays up all night crying.
I can empathize and exploit. Multitasking. There is a gun violence crisis here. Never waste a good crisis.
Jaxon Walker
Let's pretend you have a starship that can travel around the galaxy.
Would you still limit yourself to small caliber defense or would you want something stronger to match the power of government megaships?
Levi Edwards
Drugs are not guns. False equivalency, friendo.
Cameron Martinez
This isn't an argument about the right to carry such a suitcase, but rather that the cost:benefit is shit, which doesn't' address the main point, where do you put the cut off point for "bearing arms"? We've seen that current attempts for """"reasonable"""" gun control are essentially the deprivation of the people's right to defend themselves, how and where do we draw the line?
Wow it's almost as if it has little to do with the gun laws, and more about the people living there. Amazing.
Dominic Moore
>You'll never empathize over the grief for children who died because some kikes imported niggers a long time ago
We do all the time tho. Fuck those guys
A gun ban so effective its been decreasing the murder rate in America too, mischling!
Lucas Garcia
You might want to do some research there mate.
Aiden Sanchez
No, it's just that we'd rather have more dead children than change our gun culture. It's very culture related. Realistically, I know it can't be changed. Disappointing.
Doesn't help that burglary sky rocketed after those retards gave up their guns.
Now Big Red is fucking their gfs
Lincoln Taylor
I'm actually more concerned with suicide and accidental deaths. Guns make it too easy.
Benjamin Cook
>every man has the right to a firearm
so you are saying...
>every criminal has the right to a firearm
correct?
you'd rather deport every nigger (not going to happen) than try a gun ban. just to see if it works.
you're fucking lunatics.
Nicholas Nelson
I'd rather have a burglary (also easily prevented) than be shot
Easton Nelson
Canada has a massive gun culture too. Probably as big or bigger than the US gun culture. Everyone I know has at least one gun.
I'd want something to match. The problem is that as it stands, a nuclear device could potentially destroy entire cities over nothing, easily, and no one has a missile defense center at their home.
Looking at that, it frames the right to bear arms as self defense. While I agree that's a useful side effect, isn't it more to stop the ability of the government to turn on the people? Shouldn't we be able to have our own military with equal weaponry?
Jonathan Howard
that's up to the parent
we already know gun bans don't work, or rather that gun bans work so well they lower the crime rate in America too
Joshua Richardson
You're right, they're worse.
They can be built in a garage by any idiot, and can be stored long term with cosmoline.
24/7 safe space is a myth you dumb nigger.
Your safety had always been in your hands and you're the only person responsible for yourself.
All your arguments hold zero fucking water
Ethan Peterson
My street is safe.
Thomas Lee
If you're so worried about these statistical non-events, surely you are concerned about how they were suddenly happening once a week from mid 2012 through 2013, then went back to being rare?
Aiden Sullivan
That mag better only have 5 rounds in it
Henry Turner
But gun violence isn't as large a problem. Y'all are generally responsible. We have more difficult demographics and a shit healthcare system, particularly mental healthcare
Sebastian Bennett
Any gun that the military has, civilians should own as well.
Remember a nuclear bomb on a ICBM launcher costs billions. Only the super rich can own them, or citizen funded militias.
Michael Butler
Got 10 It's a pistol magazine
Blake Gomez
No one has done a mass shooting with a zipgun, you retard.
William Moore
We'd rather have dead children than change our pool culture. It's very disappointing.
Then the problem isn't the guns, correct? Maybe instead of saying how disappointing it is that people won't change gun culture, you should advocate for better mental healthcare systems, or start your own charity/foundation. Build towards your fellow man, don't try to strip him of his rights.
okay, but SHOULD the super rich be able to own them, if they have the means?
Christian Morales
>Shooting in Europe >HAHAHA EUROKEKS BTFO GUN ZONES DON'T WORK >Shooting in America > SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED Can someone explain this to me?
Nicholas Richardson
>Euros get fucked with no way to fight back >Kek rekt
>US has people get shot cause they're in places like schools which "ban guns"
Please, tell me how many mass shootings happen in a gun range.
Bentley Rodriguez
False equivalency. Pools don't kill 50 people at a go like a man with an assault rifle can.
Yes, I'm concerned with all those things. But guns exacerbate all of them. We won't even let the CDC study gun-related deaths. The NRA runs Congress.
Chase Harris
America was founded on one belief above all else: that white land owning males deserve voting rights and other people do not.
From this we can extrapolate that yes, the super rich affording such makes it okay.
Though really who the fuck knows? I dont' think there's a law against it.
Nathan Watson
Suicide isn't solved with gun control. For example, Japan and South Korea are both Gun Free zones and have nearly the highest suicide rates in the world. > B-But Japan and south Korea have different societies that cause suicide! Uh, society is the cause of everything. Gun homicide is also caused by SOCIETAL trends like poverty, unemployment, and crime. That's why Brazil has more gun homicides than the US despite strict gun control. > But you can't compare a 3rd world country like Brazil to the US. Oh so only cherrypicked countries in the commonwealth like AUS, UK, and CANaDUH are allowed to be compared to the US? Our country has more in common with Brazil in every social measure than any of your shitty countries.
Also, guns accidents are prevented the same way that power tool accidents are prevented. With proper training, keeping children away from them, and personal responsibility. Not through mandatory gun control.
Fuck your gun control. Fuck you. Fuck your emotional appeals. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
Dominic Evans
Parisians and Niceans can't shoot back.
Also die in massive numbers in gun free zones like the Orlando gay-bar, yet the solution is to make the entire continent gun free zones?
Luke Reyes
1776
STAND YOUR GROUND
CASTLE LAWS
Fuck burger...i agree with everything you're saying and it breaks my heart we don't have freedom here.
I'm about to dump mega redpills on how aussie gun control is a literal lie and made us more unsafe. Using official sources.
Nathan Hill
Cry me a river, today it's a mass shooting and tomorrow it's a mass bombing.
Murders will always exist, so quit leaving these kids defenseless.
Fuck off statist, people have the right to suicide.
I rather not be burglarized or shots, quit being a coward faggot.
If you can afford a billion dollar nuke, I'm pretty sure you won't waste it like a retard.
Are most mass shootings in America atually in places that are gun-free zones? Would it even make a difference? I feel like it would just end up with people shooting each other instead of the actual gunman.
Thomas Hill
Haha you're so mad. See how guns have affected you? All examples are "cherrypicked" I guess, but countries without guns are safer. Universally.
Jordan Sanders
I find it amusing that people who want to ban guns thinking it will reduce gun crime. Especially when they point to Australia as being a "gun control success story".
a few on ocassion, though the max body count is three. Usually two.
Matthew Hill
Fret not, nationalism is the first ideology that is truly global in scale.
Carter Taylor
Why?
What's wrong with 30 round mags?
Wyatt Powell
Murders will always exist so let's make it easy!!! Ok pal. I'm not a coward, I'm very secure thanks. I have concern for others, though.
Aaron Walker
No, pools just kill more kids than guns, and there is no reason to have one. Might as well ban car travel because it has the potential to mow down 50 people.
You should be concerned about what is actually killing.
So guns exacerbate all the problems that Canada seems free from? Despite Canada having a huge gun culture? Come off it.
All it would take was on eccentric billionaire, or even an accident, to cause nuclear annihilation, though.
Gee, I wonder why you don't have school levels of massive killings.
Ryan Parker
Why shouldn't I be mad you bootlicker faggot? These are rights that better people than you and me have died to protect. Your a huge giant faggot and should honestly drink bleach.
10,000 Gun homicides per year, 60% of which are drug / gang related = a problem?
U dumb nigger, 35,000 people per year die from cars. I hope your one of them.
Luis Murphy
I'm actually concerned with faggots like you who would dictate what I do with my own life.
Design does not trump usage.
Samuel Gonzalez
If you can afford it, then you can own it. I don't mind.
William Cruz
Please send us some freedom.
And have a read of the sources i provided.
Irrefutable proof to anyone who claims australia is safer under gun control. Not only are we less safe statistically, we're more subject to nanny state bullshit from the government than ever.
Case in point, safe schools victoria.
LITERAL FUCKING PEDOPHILES AND COMMUNISTS now run our education department in victoria, teaching the kids about trannies, love for immigrants and open borders, all while getting groomed.
Murders will always exist, and because by definition what they're doing is illegal, and largely considered to be the most heinous crime possible, they will not hesitate to use the most heinous means. Removing the ability of the population to defend themselves is an insult.
Elijah Bennett
Pools and cars have uses besides killing people, guns have 1 use. stop using nonsensical examples. I'm tired
Benjamin Taylor
I have the means to fight back with equal force.
I can't wait for some nigger to start shit when I'm around.
Thomas Brown
You can't rape an armed woman.
And I deplore the woman haters who want to take my defenses. Every feminist SHOULD be a gun rights advocate instead of being gun-rights deniers.
Ryder Bell
No one died for gun rights. Well, maybe at sandy hook and columbine etc etc
Grayson Jackson
>Pools don't kill 50 people at a go like a man with an assault rifle can. Push 50 toddlers into the deep end.
Oliver Sanders
Guns have more uses than killing people too, you giant BLM supporting nigger faggot. Why are you here? Are you here only to troll?
Chase Green
Uses of pools: Recreation
Uses of guns: Self defense Recreation (hunting)
Gabriel Rogers
>we won't even let the CDC study gun related deaths. Who's (((we)))? >the NRA runs congress Even though Bloomberg outspends the NRA in supporting agitprop organizations?
Ayden Hernandez
>No one died for gun rights. Well, maybe at sandy hook and columbine etc etc what is the Boston massacare.
im 22 and learned about this in highschool, do they not teach that any more?
Isaac Nguyen
MIRACULOUS SIMPLY THE BEST PUT TO THE TEST WHEN THINGS GO WRONG
Lucas Ward
> no one died for gun rights
Delusion.
Gavin Watson
So what?
Why aren't those faggots carrying guns?
You think mass killers give a shit about laws?
I can buy a fucking AR15 right now from Paco 6 streets over.
Or building one in my garage.
PROHIBITION DOESN'T AFFECT CRIMINALS
Lucas James
Nobody cares about sandy vagina or columbine.
A single weekend of Obama supporters in Chicago more than makes up for those. I don't think they are going to give up their guns anytime soon.
Jeremiah Jackson
Look at what happened to Ukraine after it decided to give up its nuclear arsenal. Promptly turned into a tug-of-war between American/EU and Russian influence.
Connor Howard
None of those are mass shootings, they don't meet the criteria of 5 deaths including gunman. They also need to be done publicly so the Hunt one doesn't count either.
As for that other stuff, 15 is pretty good even without considering most of them are probably gang-related. Are you actually suggesting that legalising it again would decrease these already low numbers?
Bentley Howard
toats legal, shot only once, its was such a rush.
William Rivera
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Xavier Rogers
I can make gunpowder out of charcoal, rust, and piss compost. what are you guys gonna do, ban gardens?
True, but launching a government nuke is usually not a unilateral decision, whereas a privately owned nuke is.
Dylan Peterson
Most of them are yes.
Nice "rebuttal"
I don't give a single fuck, I want guns that are super effective killing machines.
If you wet your pants at the thought of having the right to these type of guns, then please leave my country and fuck off to Mexico, the utopian gun free zone.
Liam Green
source on WEBM?
Landon Jackson
No, I'm sure agency will exist to monitor nukes.
Also nukes are not easy things to "accidentally launch".
Freedom is dangerous, deal with it
Grayson Parker
with very very few exceptions, Yes.
As for how this effects crimminals?
>Oh there is a "no guns" sign here. No one inside has guns...no one will shoot back at me...hmmm.....
Brody Brown
INFRINGED
Ryan Reyes
The defense of my life take top priority you faggot.
Bentley Cox
i'm suggesting it might help people fight back against the immigrant gangs who keep home invading cunts and getting off with no jail time EVERY SINGLE TIME.
it might make the government respect our rights more.
it will have no effect on criminals committing murder however, as they can get one so god damn easily (as i have proven in the above links).
guns are not hard to get, they're hard to use legally.
see the problem? responsible citizens get fucked and criminals get a free pass here.
Hunter Ramirez
Isnt Australia's major gun issue now, Being biker gangs making garage machineguns?
