If you seriously believe in anthropogenic global warming alarmism you should probably kill yourself. There is absolutely no evidence that the earth is experiencing unusual temperature changes, much less that humans are the cause of it.
This is nothing but a con game pushed by socialist idealogues with an agenda to install global economic controls.
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Fukken saved.
I am more and more convinced that this whole thing is a gigantic god damned hoax
bumping for massive leftist butthurt
I have always known global warming is bullshit but it's good to see the actual data proving it.
Also bumping, don't let this slide
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>reminder there's supposed to be a mini ice age by 2040
B-but, the (((science))) is settled. The (((experts))) know more than you.
Who would benefit from this though? What's the endgame behind all this fear-mongering when it comes to environment?
Based on the paleoclimate data, temperatures are going to start plummeting hard and fast in a a few decades, leading to a severe ice age in the span of less than 1,000 years.
Human civilization didn't emerge until the end of the last one of these major glacial periods. I think we have more to fear from this than a made-up scenario about global warming. We can survive it for sure with our current level of technology, but this entails that humans are left free to pursue industry.
If the environmentalists actually get their way, we would cripple our own ability to survive.
It's all about (((controlling))) and rationing the resources
I'm afraid I find your explanation lacking.
The basic motivation is evident in what the alarmism crowd pushes as the solution: Global economic controls. If you can scare people enough, you can motivate power-grabs that you couldn't otherwise win.
Now, I don't think that every scientist that supports the alarmist position has this motivation. I think there's an inherent bias in the system that automatically attracts researchers that already entertain the basic premises of the AGW alarmist position, and few people question the underlying premises.
But the people that actually control the funding absolutely have this agenda.
Hey Sup Forums listen up
>super tropical storm brews in
look at this here dat-ah
>wildfire that will burn down miles of forest sparks nearby
see this here graph?
>water begins to soak OP's feet as water seeps into his home
it says global warming is a hoax
>nearby factory emits carbon monoxide that OP breathes in, leading to his terminal cancer at age 50
its all just the Jews trying to control us
>Jews at Goldman Sachs buy land surrounding OP for fracking
man has no impact on --
>Op is interrupted as ground rumbles from an earthquake caused from fracking
n-no impact on the environment
>OP nervously turns on faucet water to drink, water bursts into flame from methane in the water table
nothing we do has consequence
Even if global warming is fake it doesn't mean we shouldn't do things to help the environment. We can't keep polluting and dumping crap into the atmosphere and killing off biological diversity without consequences.
If human industry is having a negative impact, you need to be able to demonstrate it with actual evidence. Making shit up because it "feels right" isn't actual evidence.
based Ivan
seriously you people dont believe drinking plastic contaminated water is good for you do you?
so the earthquakes caused by fracking are fake?
so the huge islands of trash in the ocean are fake?
so the oil spills that destroy wild life are fake?
so the fact that carbon monoxide going into the air and harming nearby civilians is fake?
pol you sure are retarded sometimes
I'm not saying that actual cases of pollution don't have negative consequences. It can and does happen, but these issues can be addressed in a rational way that doesn't systematically cripple industry.
But the point of the thread is that global warming alarmism is totally baseless. If you've got evidence to the contrary, feel free to post it.
It baffles me that you fucks believe anyone could pull off a 'scam' of this magnitude. Let alone, you believe the people pulling it off are total idiot lemmings incapble of any sort of real thought. If global warming is a huge conspiracy, it would need thousands upon thousands of people to he 'in' on it. Just not plausible.
>muh kemikillz errywhere we all gonna die
We have more potable drinking water at our disposal than we ever have in the entire history of humanity, thanks to the very technologies that environmentalists want to ban.
if you take carbon out of the ground and put it into the atmosphere the planet will warm up. pretty basic stuff guys
Do you have a specific argument against the claims made in the pic? Whining that "It's gotta be real because so many people believe it" isn't evidence. Very intelligent people used to think that the earth was the center of the universe, and opposition to this position had dire consequences.
It's perfectly plausible when you consider most of these people's checks derive from 'proving' the correct opinion.
The age of impartial science is dead
these things have nothing to do with AGW and are all localized problems that should have localized solutions.
I mean, just take any of the dozens of official reports by dozens of different governments and/or IGOs and/or NGOs, whose data comes from thousands of peer reviewed articles on the subject. There is no lack of data on this subject, tinfoil hat user
The alarmist claims being made are addressed in the original pic, with actual peer-reviewed data to support it. What specific claim do you think is false?
I am a PhD and know that you just cant have a conspiracy this broad in the sciences. Too many scientists have integrity. And the counteratgument to your point is that there is also much fame and money to gain by actually proving that global warming isnt happening as well. With our huge fossil fuel ibfrastructure in place, there are plenty of folks with much entrenched interest, willing to pay lots of money to shoot down global warming.
Let's say all G20 countries accept global warming as a fact, and introduce global regulations to bring pollution down.
Best case scenario, global warming is a true and we avert the destruction of humanity, as well as cleaning our environment.
Worst case, global warming is false, but we still clean our environments up and make the earth a more pleasant place to live.
It's win win really, the only people who stand to lose here are kike industrialists who don't give a fuck about any of us.
No "vast conspiracy" is required. It's entirely possible for false ideas to take hold simply because people are unable or even just unwilling to examine the basic premises. And when you have a system that inherently encourages a specific set of views due to politics, then such ideas will naturally have a biased representation.
I'm not here to refute global warming point by point, this has been done ad nauseum here on Sup Forums and elsewhere. I'm here to tell you to take the tinfoil hat off. if you want to actually delve into the science of all this, do it, but do it impartially. Go to a good university library and get on line, educate yourself on the subject and read actual original research articles. If you really want to do it right, don't be swayed by anyones commentary, just go look at the data and decide for yourself with an open mind
>using pascal's wager for global warming
There is absolutely no evidence that there is unusual warming, let alone evidence that the solutions presented to curb the problem will actually fix it.
There are ways to address issues like pollution without resorting to the kinds of economic controls advocated by global warming alarmists.
>win/win
>the only people who stand to lose here are kike industrialists who don't give a fuck about any of us.
You fucking idiot, the kikes are the ones who are pushing for this. You practically read from the script they provided for you.
>save the environment! defeat those corporations!
Carbon taxes and heavy business regulations will give them control over the economy, and that's only the first of many incremental changes. Big corporations will reign (corruption, tax evasion, bribery) while smaller businesses will be completely at the whim of international "laws".
Your ignorant spineless attitude of "it's all good" is exactly what they hoped for when the elites latched onto this cause. The same thing is happening with gun control, the parallels should be obvious.
There is no "tinfoil" argument presented. See: Again, if you have specific evidence to rebut any of the claims being made, then present it. Shouting "read moar newfag" isn't evidence.
It would take a vast conspiracy for no one to question the underlying premise. And this whole concept is laughable given that we have a global fossil feul energy industry that takes in nearly a trillion dollars a year. I mean, those deep pockets dont have the resources to defend themselves?
Ahem (pic related)
I believe in global warming
But I also think that only idiots believe global resource restriction works ~ which is 98% of green movement
Instead of using economics and pushing higher tech to outcompete existing stuff
>It would take a vast conspiracy for no one to question the underlying premise.
Except that there *are* people questioning the underlying premises, and there are plenty of examples of false ideas remaining entrenched due to political reasons. See: This happens all the time.
>And this whole concept is laughable given that we have a global fossil feul energy industry that takes in nearly a trillion dollars a year
There are also examples of major oil/gas companies supporting environmentalist causes for the sole purpose of destroying competition.
science.time.com
But just because the scale of impact happens to be very large and that a lot of people have sincere faith in the AGW narrative does not mean that it's true.
>16 year old practicing talking points so he can crush that puss detected
Actually, the evidence for AGW is now so strong that most of the large fossil fuel companies are on board and have agreed that the UN initiatives are worth pursuing...
mobile.nytimes.com
>most of the large fossil fuel companies are on board
>Check link
>10 "big companies"
>"Mostly from Europe"
MFW
It supports my argument to point out that companies get behind popular politics to ensure a seat at the table.
But, again, this has nothing to do with whether or not the claims being made by global warming alarmists are actually true. I'd genuinely like to see informed rebuttals to the claims in the original pic.
OP is frequent customer of the Merchants of doubt.
only a slight overstatement
>4 of the top 10 energy companies
I already told you i am not here to refute your shitty infographic point by point. You are fucking hopeless, anyway
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>if dinosaurs survived means we will survive too
Are you retarded? Of course the earth is at its coldest and the climate is not nearly as agressive as it was before. But it is perfect for humans, that is why it is important we keep it that way you mong
Actually, you're more correct than you know.
If the alarmists are to be trusted then the measures they suggest would be too little too late. You can't save a flooded basement by scooping out spoonfuls of water.
What they would be suggesting if they were confident in their predictions is large scale geoengineering. Wed need to change the climate to a ore sustainable level much faster than any conservation methods could hope to achieve
>But it is perfect for humans
That's not how evolution works. A better description is that we are perfect for it. But that's just me being pedantic
>only a slight overstatement
But not the bit about 10 oil companines being "most of the large companies"
List of many (not all are "big obv.)
en.wikipedia.org
From your link
>None of the biggest American oil companies signed the declaration or were part of the group.
Also
>The companies that were involved — including BP, Royal Dutch Shell, Saudi Aramco and Total — made no specific commitments toward helping to meet the climate challenge. Instead, they indicated they would await government regulations to chart the way forward.
"We aren't going to do anything until you put a gun to our heads about it"
Such conviction. Many consensus....from 3 of the "Big" oil companies.
Being misleading does not help your case sonny jim
kys climatenigger, pic related
Dude aramco is the largest in the world and shell, bp and total are all top 10. Jesus ducking christ
An agenda of not killing off 80% of the population.
World government
And? I made a point to state those were big oil companies. Sweet straw man you beat up there
You were making the claim that "Most of the large companies" were on board. I was just showing you how wrong that is.
It isn't most. And they aren't "on board". They just said they will comply with regulations in a PR friendly way
WOW WHAT A BREAKTHROUGH
If you had literal billions of dollars to lose from something you believe is totally false, would you agree to it in principal?
And i admitted a slight overstatement, '4 of the top 10' is not very far off from 'most of the large'. You are making yourself look silly
>implying we can stop peoples from starving or dying of thirst or of whatever else if they are too fucking dumb to setup farms/wells or just improve their quality of life by their own
To give a man a fish feed him for a day, to learn him how to fish is to feed him for life and if he is too fucking dumb to even learn how to use something as simple as a fishing cane then there ain't much you can do to help the guy in the first place.
bumping again. Interesting thread.