If turks are just weak roaches, how do you explain this?

If turks are just weak roaches, how do you explain this?

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Failure of western Europe to contain a threat properly.

Roaches reproduce quickly, and they used indoctrinated european children for fighting as janissaries.

That was full of non turks lmao

Wow, that looks a lot like eastern roman empire. It's like they left a power vacuum as they collapsed!

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>Arabic empire gets Mongol'd
>became very weak
>Roaches take chance and invade each region of the empire and steal Riches.

>°°°

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This is the empire of Jorge the Great, right?

I'd be open to Turkey to rebirthing the Ottoman Empire and annexing the entire middle east to hopefully bring some stability to the region. The Ottoman empire was actually based and a fairly advanced/scientific/prosperous civilization.

>Every country that was under the Ottoman Empire now suffers corruption and social problems
>The way to solve this is to put them under the Ottoman Empire again
Canada with the flawless logic here.

these people are meant to be ruled over by a religious zealot

they can't do democracy or communism as the west/east has learned

so they conquered a bunch of slack jawed shitskins?

Congratulations Mehmet.

Now leave Germany you fucking roach.

thanks leaf

At least if we did let them do this they could later be nuked all under the same banner, no?

>>Every country that was under the Ottoman Empire now suffers corruption and social problems
speak for yourself Bogdan

So instead of trying to impose secular dictatorships, you want religious zealots to rule them, and not only that, you want to give them the entire muslim world on a plate so they have a way to attack everyone else in an actual united way? Top logic.

I mean, sure, but you could just nuke them now. Same effect, fewer risks.

Lel, point ONE fucking country that doesn't, turk. I also bet every single country that was under ottoman boot has its words for bribes taken from turkish - șpagă for example, and many others.

Ottomans wanted to be the new Romans so badly & the Mongols helped them achieve this

Also those Muslims need to be ruled with an iron fist, it's the only thing they fucking understand, Ottoman's did a good job for a while to their credit

They conquered areas that were already weakened from plague and war that lasted for centuries?

Read about the Byzantine-Sasanian wars and the Moors you fucking dumb-dumb.

They collapsed because of turks.
And jews

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Byzantium was betrayed by the Eternal Merchant of Venice

>t. Köksäl Bäbä

So they managed to conquer other inferiors?

My Theory: The Ottomans has a very efficient Offensive Doctrine and waged a succesful war against the Sassanid Persians. This weakend persian influence in the peninsula and gave the ottomans room to grow. Meanwhile turmoil eroded europe and blinded it to the rise of the Ottomans. The ottomans managed to secure the vast treasures and administration of Constantinople which gave it an entrance to the european theatre. Eventually it broke apart when pressured from both the europeans and the arabs. The impressive part is not ottoman offense, but rather that they managed to have a foothold in europe for 400 years, which reveals how weak europe is when it comes to resisting foreign invasions.

The Ottomans had a very effective swarming doctrine. Many of their battles were won by outnumbering their enemy 2:1 or more. Even so, they still got their asses kicked way too often.

>The Ottomans had a very effective swarming doctrine.

Roaches do have strength in numbers.

You mean something that happened centuries ago somehow is relevant today?

Go back to your country Ahmed and stop shitting Europe

Ottomans-had-the-best-system-handsdown-it-is-probably-more-superior-to-any-system-of-today.

ottoman-system>anything-else

And catholic dogs.

they used white children that they abducted from the balkans as troops

>turkroaches acknowledged their inferiority

Konstantinoples SJW invited a bunch of ""rapefugees""

>coincident

>doesn't know how to use a spacebar
>doesn't know how IDs work

go home shit skin

There were only two attempts in the whole of Ottoman history to unseat the ruling Osmanlı dynasty, both failures, which is suggestive of a political system which for an extended period was able to manage its revolutions without unnecessary instability.

The-Empire-was-lost-due-to-ww1-only-in-1917

Millets (central representation)
Further information: Millet (Ottoman Empire)

The community governing was a hierarchical system with the elders as the smallest group which forms the millets. Beginning with Tanzimat millets have their own selected councils, which was another layer between the patriarchs and elders.

Under Ottoman rule the major religious groups were allowed to establish their own self-governing communities, called millets, each retaining its own religious laws, traditions, and language under the general protection of the sultan. Millets were led by religious chiefs, who served as secular as well as religious leaders and thus had a substantial interest in the continuation of Ottoman rule.
Elders (local representation)

On a deeply local level cities and villages belonging to a millet were allowed to keep their power micro-structures that would signify a level of "autonomy", e.g. the Greek villages and cities were up to a point being steered by councils of elder notables (Dimogerontes, Gerontes, Prokritoi) that had the responsibility of representing their people to the region's Pasha like it was happening during the late Byzantine years.

Quite interesting is the fact that in several well economically established areas this prokritoi class would eventually become a type of nobility. In Athens for example the Gerousia (council of the elders) became a closed club occupied mostly by 10-13 Houses (e.g. the Houses of Benizelos, Palaiologos, Gerontas). Mehmed II used the conquering army to restore the physical structure of the city. Old buildings were repaired, streets, aqueducts, and bridges were constructed, sanitary facilities were modernized, and a vast supply system was established to provide for the city's inhabitants.
Vassal states

Ottoman-system-was-revolutionary-and-genius.

>constantinople 1453
>treasures
not at all
the ottomans largly adapted the mid-east roman military system and extended it with their superior cav.
cannons were also devastating in the offense, mostly for moral reasons
the zerg-roach meme actually only fits for the fall of the ottmans, 16th century ottomans had elite troops

There had this secret technique called genocide.

jannisaries/tolerance of religions (uncharacteristic of Islam but necessary and intelligent for their time)

early ottoman empire having intelligent rulers

most of the land being nomadic before conquest

any more reasons needed? turkey has gone to shit over the past 2 centuries, different times.

The-Ottomans-were-Genius-unrivaled-in-states-craft-and-posterity-building.
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they-really-were-a-continuation-of-the-roman-empire.

This wasn't invented back then

But this was.

Ottoman Empire never had population vise advantage against Europe, hell even in 17th century Austria with Hungarian areas had more population than Ottoman base (Balkans and Anatolia combined). And in 19th century, Austria Hungary alone had larger population than whole of Ottoman Empire with Arabic provinces inclueded.

Turks were controlling whole of Middle East, Egypt inclueded before Mongolian invasions.

>Every country that was under the Ottoman Empire now suffers corruption and social problems

Conveniently leaving out the fact that these regions were either dominated by Communist and/or Islamic dictatorships/one-man-party-democracies of Arabs I see.

>My Theory: The Ottomans has a very efficient Offensive Doctrine and waged a succesful war against the Sassanid Persians. This weakend persian influence in the peninsula and gave the ottomans room to grow

Firstly, Sassanids were defeated and conquered by Arab conquest about 7 century before Ottoman dynasty declared independence as a small dutchy. And from the time Turks started ruling Middle East (11th century) to dissolution of Qajar Dynasty in Iran (20th century), Iran/Persia was ruled by either Turks or Mongols.

>Meanwhile turmoil eroded europe and blinded it to the rise of the Ottomans. The ottomans managed to secure the vast treasures and administration of Constantinople which gave it an entrance to the european theatre

Constantinople was nothing more than a dying town inside a dead metropolis. It's historical artifacts completly ransackt and looted by conquering Crusaders and later Latin Kingdoms. It had a populatiojn of 50.000 at the time Turks conquered it. It was after Mehmet the Conquerer's great efforts that city became a thriving Euroasian capital and trade hub again, raising it's inhabitants to 200.000 by his reign and 680.000 by his great grandson, Suleiman the Magnificent. It was us Turks who gave life to that dying city.

Literal armies of white slaves.

Wow they can conquer jawas and kangz, what a super power

conqering-magnitudes-of-nations-and-ethnic-groups-and-integrating-them-into-the-turkish-state-and-machine*

>Ottoman Empire never had population vise advantage against Europe, hell even in 17th century Austria with Hungarian areas had more population than Ottoman base (Balkans and Anatolia combined). And in 19th century, Austria Hungary alone had larger population than whole of Ottoman Empire with Arabic provinces inclueded.
The turks were more militarized than the people of the Balkans, and by the 15th century they had also assimilated many people in Anatolia and started importing children into the army as janissaries.

The proof of this outnumbering is the battles - just look at the numbers the Ottoman Empire was capable of mustering just to attack a tiny country such as Moldavia - circa 120k at Vaslui (hint: they got BTFO by 30k moldavians)

>Conveniently leaving out the fact that these regions were either dominated by Communist and/or Islamic dictatorships/one-man-party-democracies of Arabs I see.
Convenient for you, but just take a look at Greece and Turkey. These are the countries that didn't go through communism, islamic dictatorship (until now for Turkey at least) and one-party "democracies", and what do you see? Corruption.

you-know-the-balkans-which-have-wars-every-day?
Ottomans-conquered-and-subjugated/integrated-them-into-ottoman-interest-for-722-years.

So-asthetic-imperial-and-based-conquered-all-the-balkans-for-500-years.

Fuck-off-retard