Okay so I'm close to giving up on getting a nice wife and raising a family. Which is highly depressing. But, I want to carry on my family lineage. I don't want to be the one to let the family line die.
What do you think of paying a surrogate mother (good genetic stock) to have some kids for me, and then raising them as a single dad? Obviously it would be expensive, and difficult, and I'd have to hire a nanny, but is this a viable option?
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How expensive is it to import some Eastern European nanny?
Im a dad and I think ive made a big mistake sticking with the woman. So I think youll be pleasently surprised
Did you have kids and then marry, or vice versa?
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>Okay so I'm close to giving up on getting a nice wife and raising a family. Which is highly depressing. But, I want to carry on my family lineage. I don't want to be the one to let the family line die.
Been thinking the same thing. Way I see it now, is imagine how many other people from your family tree going way back didn't have kids for whatever reason, be it that they died in a war or disease, or just chose not to have kids. Your dynasty still endured. We alone are just insignificant twigs.
>What do you think of paying a surrogate mother (good genetic stock) to have some kids for me, and then raising them as a single dad? Obviously it would be expensive, and difficult, and I'd have to hire a nanny, but is this a viable option?
In my opinion every child should have a mother and father. If one or both of them is lost in a tragedy that's one thing, but I don't think it's a good idea to have kids without the possibility of giving them a proper family.
Yes lots of branches of the family tree died over the centuries, of course, but I don't want to be one.
It's selfish as well - I want to be a father. I think it will be very rewarding. It's really all I live and work for...
If you're not going to have kids at least kill some of the many Muslims in your country
don't mess with nature brah, kids are designed to hang with their mom and dad, especially their mom the first three years.
If you do it singlehandedly, you'll end up with a kid that's not iteself, a kid that's adapted into itself.
Thing is this, don't treat women like equals, don't expect shit from them and most of all, always be yourself around them.
Any man can mold himself to appear right for any woman, but that will only lead to division.
Most likely the perfect woman you'll ever meet is some whore who annoys the shit out of you. But what do you want? Treat the woman as what she is, a babymaker who then turns into a babyfeeder and babynurturer. Just pay for her and expect nothing from her.
Just make her feel that you'll never leave her as long as she holds her end.
Me and my wife are currently moving to a bigger appartment and are going tho have our second child at home. We don't anything like the norm and we really like our 2y/o son, he's a bit slow with speech but is huge and good with tools and problem solving, most of all he has a pleasant personality and love us so much it's crazy.
I think we are making a souls experience here on planet earth really pleasant, which is all you can ever hope for. Too bad we have to move away so he doesn't have to go to shitty school...
Unschooling is where it's at!
Unless you are freakishly ugly or unforgivable lazy there is no reason you can't get a wife
Why not get south East Asian wife to help you raise a white surrogate baby
I'm not Swedish.
If I'm going to marry some slut that I don't even love, why not just hire a nanny?
There are no good women to meet. I mean, I know they exist, but I don't know how to find them.
And no, I want a white household.
>surrogate mother
>good genetic stock
pick one, it is something non-white bitches from miserable shitholes offer
Ok op give us a quick description of yourself, looks, race, income, personalit, age
Kek
6 or 7/10 looking I've been told. White. Blue eyes. Not jacked but athletic. Shy personality. 27. Attorney. $100k+ income.
I'll marry you user. I'm a man though idk if that will be a problem.
You can meet them literally anywhere
Tell me, how many women have you been on a date with in the last 12 months?
Where are you from?
Not for Sweden
Yes that will be a problem.
I dunno, a few, through Tinder and Bumble. All stupid, wastes of time though.
USA
1 mom 1 dad. children are an extension of you both. To separate them is to deny the passing of the masterwork of the human experience, this is how you create mongrels and savages, not human beings.
Being a single parent is difficult. I don't know why someone would want to do it intentionally.
>t. Single father of three
>USA
do you speak Swedish or are you diluting their dying culture?
It's a proxy.
Do you put yourself out there mate? I'm pretty much how you describe yourself, minus the income because I'm only 23. But I was and still am antisocial as fuck and managed to find a gf I'm going to marry next year and have hopefully 6+ kids, but that was because I got lucky. Keep looking, meet friends of friends and you'll find someone to have many perfect nordic kids with.
holy shit
can you just
stop being racist
and adopt some refugee kids from ethiopia?
I lived with just my dad for most of my life. I'm a pretty regular dude, and I don't think having a single father impacted me negatively. Hope that provides at least a little bit of insight, OP. I'd say go for it if you're able to do it.
My boy is 6 now. His mother died of skin cancer when he was 3. I couldn't have done it without my remaining family. It's hard and I've had a few dates, some went so far that I was ready to introduce a girl to him. It came to it and I felt really down about the whole thing.
I really don't like the idea of taking on a woman who already has a kid of their own, but that would make me a hypocrite.
Sorry if this goes off topic bro, but as you say it is rewarding. He's my life and how he turns out is on me. Yes society and music videos with miley cyrus sucking cock shaped foods and dancing with no clothes on can have an impact. He might get hooked on video games and become a hermit. Who the fuck knows. I've gotten him into playing football and he fucking loves it.
I'm just venting now. It's a struggle but you'll learn a lot about yourself as a man.
I've had girlfriends before. The last one burned me badly, three years ago, and I haven't really recovered. I put myself out there. I an talkative when out and about in public, I go on Tinder dates and stuff like I said, but overall nothing clicks.
you come across as if you're looking for something. My advice to you is just enjoy life. If you're working well and earning money and doing fun shit, someone will appear in your life and fill a hole you didn't know needed filling. Just keep going and you'll get there. Without sounding too much like /fit/ just switch up your routine or start doing some different stuff. There are too many women in the world to feel bad about a handful
>A few dates in 12 months
And you're surprised you can't find the right woman. Try at least one date a week and then you can complain
Only if you have stable, married parents and a decent family to support you. Otherwise you're just being selfish and stupid to assume you should.
>you come across as if you're looking for something
Yes, I am, a wife! That's the whole point.
Everyone says to just live life and forget about it, and she'll show up one day. Like I'll magically run into the girl of my dreams in Walmart one day.
Then, I have people/you saying that I need to put myself out there and put forth effort ().
So which is it? I'm supposed to do nothing and just live and a girl will fall into my lap, or I'm supposed to commit myself to the dating scene until I find "her"?
Stop using tinder. If you want better fish try a better pond mate.
You're a man, you take action. You go out there. You find her
Go out, get laid, have fun, try different girls and find out which kind you really like. Then when you have a son and you're raising him you'll be able to pass on your wisdom of how to get women of his own
Newborns are pain in the ass - screaming in the middle of the night and so on.
Your career will take a hit, unless you take paternity leave for a year(s). But that can hurt your career too. After they grow up a little there is a day care, which makes life a little bit easier, but you still probably will have to hire somebody to look after the kid. Couple of years later - school, sports, vidia and hanging out with friends will consume most of their time.
>and I'd have to hire a nanny
Dunno if your salary is enough to hire nanny for 8-10 hours a day while you are at work. Of course you can bring kids to the office this days, some even have playing room with the staff that looks after them. Still combining work and children is very hard. But having kids is right decision, I hope you will meet a good woman that will love you back and marry you. If not - good luck and lots of patience.
children still need a mother.
You want 2 people raising offspring.
There needs to be a balance of feminine and masculine in a child's life.
Hey op I'm a single dad. My son is 3 years old and doesn't see his mom very often. She fucked off when he was around a year old. I wouldn't recommend single parenting. It's a massive amount of time effort and money. My son seems well adjusted for not having a mom but I can only imagine what he will be like growing up with one parent.
What's your support network like?
Why don't you just adopt you fucking faggot? Why do you care so much about an arbitrary sequence of proteins?
>The cuck memes are true
Schlomo will pay for his crimes
None really. No family for a few hundred miles in any direction. Only a few friends around.
Why not just let Jamal fuck your wife if it's so arbitrary, faggot?
I don't have a wife.
>Asking if you should wait for a woman to fall into your lap
You sound bluepilled as fuck when it comes to women
Poor bongs, just 3 minutes of sunlight gets you lot terminal skin cancer.
Keep fighting the good fight and remember to wear sunscreen when it stops raining
Dog bless ;_;7
self acceptance and happiness is the first step.
>kid still needs a mother
You are implying that this marriage will not end when the kid is 5-6 years old. After that he will probably see the kid only every Sunday.
You mean, from your country, right?
Just get your shit together and find a woman, Sven. It's not fucking hard.
Tinder is a hookup site you God damn retard. No one is looking for a husband on tinder, if anything they're trying to fuck a guy behind their husband's back.
Men don't "get", we take.
completely fucking degenerate
man up or die off
THIS THIS THIS
hey OP
consider buying a girl from some poor village in afghanistan for some goats
it's my plan, I know she won't be white but it's better than the alternatives
You're a hue anyways though, are you white to begin with?
But I will not consider non-white options.
I have portuguese, polish, dutch and indigenous blood running in my veins, so I'm tainted.
Anyway, the only way to have a long term submissive, faithful and conservative wife these days is by importing them from the shitholes of Earth. If you had enough money I think you could go through the quest of finding a mostly genetically white girl up for sale in Afghanistan. It's a big business over there, but it's mostly for saudi pedos, so you'd have less competition looking for older girls.
>In my opinion every child should have a mother and father.
Literally 0 good women today
If I'm going to do that, I'll just do Eastern European. I don't want a muzzie.
they have some pretty white girls famalam
I imagine the russian shitholes are pretty much mongolian
>I imagine the russian shithoIes are much more mongoIian
>But I'II get an Iraqi girI! She's sureIy white!
Fuck man BraziIian education and genetics is such a minefieId
Look into coparenting. There are search engines to find coparents.
central asia is caucasoid
large portions of russia are mongoloid
Just adopt a girl to raise and when she's old enough marry her.
Jesus man, what are you even taIking about Imao
>Iarge portions of Russia are mongoIoid
yeah, maybe in terms of Iand mass, but onIy a smaII portion of the popuIation is ya dingus
Bro, you are like 15 minutes from Russia or Ukraine.
Just go there and find some wet pussied 16 year old Slav to wife up and mold her into a baby factory.
>onIy a smaII portion of the popuIation
but those are precisely the regions poor enough that you could buy brides from
or you think you're going to marry some western russian mail bride and not get stabbed in the back immediatelly?
>but those are precisely the regions poor enough that you could buy brides from
>or you think you're going to marry some western russian mail bride and not get stabbed in the back immediatelly?
God dude your Iogic and information is so terribIe.
Neither of those are a good option.
The onIy way is to go there for an extended period of time and actuaIIy meet a girI Imao.
tinder is not for finding wives my dude, you need serious dating sites where the women have the intention to find the love of their life
and btw, keep it white at any cost. Aryan if possible. Aryan genes are the best genes in the world but sadly most aryan women in US and A are degenerate Thrash
Such as?
i only know good german sites, but i think you find something if you just google it :)
Name them please, I'm just curious.
Slavic girls aren't any better than western women, maybe more traditional but certainly not submissive or faithful. Plus, they'll only be interested in the citizenship so they can file for divorce and bring pyotr to your country, making matters even worse.
The only way to go is to remove a girl from an isolated culture and extreme poverty. A girl that has never even heard of your country. You'll become her only point of reference and emotional support in a new life. She might end up resenting you, she might end up adoring you, but she'll love her children in the end. The traditional values instilled in her early life will make her a good trustworthy wife for the long term, even if she becomes westernize.
Kids need mom to be the nutty female whose moods they have to figure out. It's actually good training. They are better at infant stuff.
Dad is the fun guy, teacher, and discipliner when things get truly retarded.
Both roles are important. One person can't do it.
If you're incapable of finding a mate why do you think your lineage is worth preserving?
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>Slavic girls aren't any better than western women, maybe more traditional but certainly not submissive or faithful. Plus, they'll only be interested in the citizenship so they can file for divorce and bring pyotr to your country, making matters even worse.
Buddy, are you finished teIIing me about sIavic women or are you gonna spout more buIIshit Imao.
I'm a 2nd generation Russian immigrant bro, I think I might know a bit more about it than you do Imao
this desu, if a boy doesn't have a mother he ends up being an autist with an under-deveIoped emotionaI side.
If a girI has no mother she ends up the same, probabIy a tomboy.
Kids need a mom. Imagine if you grew up without a mom? I know you have the best intentions, but raising a kid without a mom will be so difficult, and the kid will be so confused until he is older and understands.
If anything, get him a full time nanny. Just some sort of female presence that is constant.
you're the pyotr then
have fun cucking the poor beta white males that listen to your advice
>you're the pyotr then
>2nd generation
do you understand the engIish Ianguage or are you just using googIe transIate
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Stop being a fucken faggot and worry about being the best man you can be, if you do that things will fall into place.
There's a reason you can't find a good woman who wants you, but it's not women, it's looking at you in the mirror
>2nd generation
still a pyotr
you need to meet people through other people. If you don't like parties just grin and bear it. Don't expect because that will kill it, but you need to be in certain situations that will lead to a relationship
>Imagine if you grew up without a mom?
I did
and wouId you want your chiId to go through the same things?
Iike I and others have said aIready, you're Iike an hour way from Russia, just spend some time there and find a good women.
It wouIdn't be hard.
Good point
I'm sorry user. But, given the choice, would you ever let another child grow up like you did?
What hobbies/interests do you have man?
I'm sure you spend your time doing other things besides being a Iawyer and wasting time on /poI/.
nope, preserving your DNA is the only thing worth living for
Just tennis mainly. I play, but with other men. I'm looking for a coed league to join to play some doubles with women.
But that's about it.
I'm going to join some Church groups though. I want to be part of a community.
It is unfair to the child for it not to have a mother and father. Do not set out to create this scenario.
No, another user already made that point, and it's a good point.
Goddamn why are you so gay?
Anyway, you seem like a nice guy and you'll probably be a good father, probably won't be too hard to find a baby carrier if you ever start looking outside of Sup Forums
Underrated. Good bants.
weII thats a start at Ieast.
I don't think you're going to find the best women in Sweden though, I'm sure there are good ones, but it wiII be harder.
If you wanted, you couId try InterpaIs, its for peopIe Iooking to Iearn about other Ianguages and cuItures etc but obviousIy you spend a Iot of time taIking to peopIe so it couId Iead to more.
Just be carefuI of women who are cIearIy Iooking for your paycheck not you. They're pretty easy to spot.
Fuck the community. What are you a communist?
I'm American.
are you actually retarded ?
Oh yeah thats right.
WeII even more troubIe finding them in America Imao.
Perhaps go on hoIiday to Europe/Eastern Europe because if you want a white, conservative woman who wiII be a good wife, Eastern Europe is the most IikeIy pIace.
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