#AnyoneButTrump2016

If trump becomes president and starts deporting all illegal immigrants as well as deporting Muslims (even if it's for a short period of time) this will fuck up Americas economy and drop the dollar. Many countries use the American dollar to compare to their own so this to would effect those such countries. If you don't want another Great Depression vote for Hillary she may be shit but she's better than trump.

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Good thing you can't vote in our election.

But if trump wins it effects Canada and everyone else too.

deporting illegeal immigrants will take away a vital source of labour because nobody wants to do those jobs. It could drop the dollar

Good thing Americans don't give a shit about what the rest of the world thinks.

Wrong, no one wants to take those jobs for the price they are being offered for.

Businesses will either have to raise their wages or mechanize.

>muh economy

you already have a substitute drama teacher doing a better job of ruining your country then trump ever could.

I'd look to your own issues.

Shouldn't you be worried about what your own PM is doing to your dollar?

>"a $15/hr living wage is a moral necessity"
>"we need illegals to pick fresh fruits and vegetables for pennies on the dollar"
> :^)

I fucking hate liberals.

Ok. Explain how.

>"muh no jobs"
>depoty illegals
>11 million new jobs
>economy flourishes
Thoughts?

Deport the chinks & pooinloos, suddenly middle class mobility & jobs for college graduates EVERYWHERE!

LOL not gonna happen look how this Bitch sustained a concussion.
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How do other countries without illegal immigrants survive then?

But these aren't jobs that people want. These are jobs where you pick fruit in the sun for two bucks an hour. If the companies have to start paying their employees more their prices go up. If the prices go up then people are going to look for a cheaper alternative. Think of it like this, if there are two shirts that are the same except one thing. Shirt A was made by an American making minimum wage and shirt B was made by an illegeal immigrant. Shirt B is going to be cheaper and is going to sell better. If you get rid of the illegal immigrant people aren't going to buy shirt A, they're going to buy a shirt that was made in China and is the same price as shirt B. This is taking money away from American business because even if the worker is an illegal immigrant the company is still American.

Because countries such as China don't exactly need illegal immigrants in order to have access to cheap labour.

>These are jobs where you pick fruit in the sun for two bucks an hour.

already addressed this. Work on your reading comprehension, leaf.

Holy shit
A fucking socialist leaf is trying to tell America how the free market works.
I really have seen it all

>the companies have to start paying their employees more their prices go up. If the prices go up then people are going to look for a cheaper alternative. Think of it like this, if there are two shirts that are the same except one thing. Shirt A was made by an American making minimum wage and shirt B was made by an illegeal immigrant. Shirt B is going to be cheaper and is going to sell better. If you get rid of the illegal immigrant people aren't going to buy shirt A, they're going to buy a shirt that was made in China and is the same price as shirt B. This is taking money away from American business because even if the worker is an illegal immigrant the company is still American.

What about reading comprehension?

Well I mean I'm not wrong

How many Muslims do you think actually constitute an irreplaceable labor force?

The answer is, of course, that Muslim labor is an essentially insignificant portion of the American labor force, and a large component of the civil unrest and black lives matter movement. Removing them from this country would increase productivity, lower crime rates, and create a safer environment for all non-Muslims.

Let me break it down for you

China shirt cheaper than America shirt

Illegal immigrants make America shirt cheap so people buy

American make America shirt it's expensive

Then people by China shirt

No profit to America

Ok but what about illegal immigrants? They still take up a large part of the labour force

Yes, you are, maple dick
Yes, the price would go up, but people will get paid more.
In other words, the dollar will have more buying power.
This doesn't include the billions we would save on healthcare and welfare for illegals. And the billions they send back to Mexico that never get circulated back into the US economy.

The grammar from this fucking nigger is utterly disgusting. And the lack of knowledge for economy as well. Kill yourself leaf

Take a look at this, I dumbed it down for you Nobody's going to buy those now expensive amarican made clothes

You aren't giving any actual reason as to why I'm wrong so I'll just assume you have nothing to dispute against.

Fuck Trump. He is killing conservatism, freedom, and the concept of having principles.

Wow, you didn't respond to a single thing I wrote.
You are either trolling or really stupid. For your sake, I hope it's the former.

And Deporting somebody just for being Muslim is like deporting someone for being black, it's horrible. However I understand that most people here are edgy 13 year olds that don't give a fuck about anyone who isn't white so I suspect I won't go to far with that argument.

There are a few problems with that. Number one is that you have to be a citizen to have welfare. The next problem is this

Only reason Trump can't be bought is cuz he is the buyer! Why buy a politician when the electorate is so stupid that you could run yourself!

Incase you don't understand, Social programs like welfare account for 29.1 billion dollars of the budget which is three percent. Even if illegal immigrants did get welfare (which I'm sure some do) it still only accounts for three percent of the entire national budget. That's not 3% to illegal immigrants, that's 3% to amarica's population that receives welfare with the small amount of illegal immigrants that recieve it mixed in.

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I dont give a shit what it does, in the long run we will be safer.

How in any way does this prove me wrong?
>free education is billions of dollars
Children of illegal immigrants use up that money
>healthcare is billions of dollars
Illegal immigrant families use up that money
Oh, and
>you need to be a citizen to get welfare
You obviously are not aware of the millions of illegals that have fake SSNs.
Like I said, you're fucking Canadian. You have zero idea what goes on in the US.
Don't tell us what to do you zoophilic piece of shit.

Fuck you stick your golden shekels up your arse until your face turns yellow.

American healthcare is privatized meaning the government doesn't pay for it. Also the American government wouldn't have to strain itself with welfare and education if they changed the budget a bit. Allocate some military money to social services. However that's a different topic.

Hey you're the one that wants everything to be more expensive for some reason. Don't blame me if I prefer amarica's grown fruits and vegetables to be cheap and affordable.

>American healthcare is privatized
>obamacare
You have to be 18+ to post on this board

I would also like to apologize for my god awful grammar I recognize its at the level of a grade schooler but I don't think that should take away from the points in making.

>Education
The only real way to fix this is to spend billions of dollars weeding out the illegals and deporting them but that's really expensive, really time consuming and not very likely to work. Also (and I'm not 100% on this) if two illegal immigrants have a child in America then that child is an American citizen so him using the education isn't really a problem. The actual meaning of citizenship is a very philosophical conversation that doesn't really go anywhere so it's difficult to argue that this kid is "less American" without getting very blood and soil.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for war. She is already ready to start a war over the "Russian cyber attacks" that exposed her emails.

>a fucking leaf

Why the fuck are you moving the goal post so hard?
It's obvious that you are never going to admit that you're wrong.
You said that getting rid of illegals is a problem because it would make everything more expensive.
I explained to you that citizens would get paid more to work those jobs, so that even though the food is more expensive, they are less expensive in terms of buying power.
I also explained that getting rid of illegals saves us billions (EVERY YEAR) in welfare, healthcare, and other social services.
Lastly, it keeps the billions of dollars that illegals send to Mexico and other countries here in the US, so that it can stimulate our own economy.

Now you're trying to have a philosophical discussion on what it means to be a citizen. Jesus christ dude, I give up. I thought I could help you, but you're just hopeless.

Obama care covers health insurance not health care and health insurance is insurance that you buy that will give you X amount of dollars to pay for your hospital bill, the rest comes out of your pocket. if you don't have insurance you have to pay for the entire procedure yourself. Not like here where the government pays your hospital bill. Now I don't know about you but I doubt illegal immigrants are all jumping to get Obama care which they would have to pay for themselves.

What makes you think Hillary (who I admit is shit) is prepared to start a war with Russia over some hacks that leaker her emails? She's retarded but not that Retarded.

do you wipe your ass with leaves to save the environment

We should deport every Muslim. They are a religion and a government wrapped into one. Even if they are here they still pledge their allegiance to their devil and their country (be it Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc) fuck em all, send them back to the desert. They're deceiving slime

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Weak argument.
Firstly, Trump has said nothing about deporting muslims. Merely about stopping them coming INTO the country. Nothing will be done about the ones already there. Secondly, I have a friend in Arizona who has suffered at the hands of illegal immigrants, with his boss literally laying him off and replacing him with one at a former job so they could pay less than minimum wage. Because illegals don't pay tax aren't supposed to be in the country, let alone hired, they can take a job and not get paid minimum wage and it's all fine until someone reports it and gets the business shut down.
tl;dr OP is a faggot.

>reading this thread
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But again, these aren't jobs that many people want. The only reason illegal immigrants would take them is because they're low profile and don't need much training. Your average American won't want to shovel horse shit in the hot sun for 3 bucks an hour. Joblessness is a problem and I think that we should prioritize standing citizens over illegal immigrants but we have to remeber that less moral countries are always going to do it cheaper and easier

I just explained how getting rid of illegals would do nothing to effect health care or welfare nor would keeping them because they aren't eligable for that in the first place.

not billions, they're not exactly working on Wall Street

Fucking leaf

>deporting criminals is bad
See
Also do you legitimately believe that he wants to deport Muslims? Nigga no.

The plan is to stop immigration from Muslim-dominant countries, until there is a better vetting process.

For fucks sake

>haha I was almost forced to rationalize myself but i see you did some bad things too so instead of taking responsibility for my actions i'll just deflect the topic at hand haha better luck next time

Why not let the market dictate the price of labour instead of rigging it against workers.

A FUCKING LEAF

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But if the economy crashes we win

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You're correct about the deportation of Muslims argument I made, that was my mistake. However in America the odds of an unskilled illegal immigrant being given any job other than something that makes minimum wage or less is so unlikely because businesses aren't going to hire someone with no experience. Sure it's cheap but it's the equivalent to telling a monkey to the work at a cubicle.

How would that be so? We have a high unemployment rate, if anything deporting the illegals would get more citizens employed and off welfare.

Do you not care about the unemployed ya fuckin leaf?

>removing potential criminals from the country
>this will fuck up Americas economy and drop the dollar

>removing people who dont pay income tax
>this will fuck up Americas economy and drop the dollar

>removing potential terrorists coming directly from a country at war
>this will fuck up Americas economy and drop the dollar

>removing non-americans living in america under the radar , without permission
>this will fuck up Americas economy and drop the dollar

>preventing further aliens from coming in illegally
>this will fuck up Americas economy and drop the dollar

Boy the economy of countries with a low rate of illegal immigration must be shit.
Thanks god I live in Canada.

Like I said before illegal immigrants take up jobs that other people don't want due to shifty wage ad shitty conditions. If you deported all immigrants in those jobs no matter how great it may be there aren't exactly going to be people lining up to shovel horse shit or pick apples in the middle of farm country just because they are unemployed.

I never said my friend was high paid. The guy had to drop out of high-school to help support a single crippled mother. He lost a low paying job he needed due to his own lack of skill so his scum-sucker ex-employer could make slightly more profit. The fact is, it is the government's duty to put the people of their country before those of the next. It's like the problem of ignoring homeless vietnam veterans while worrying about refugees. While it's a harsh truth, if you can't care for your own responsibilities, you probably shouldn't be taking on those of others.

>If you don't want another Great Depression vote for Hillary she may be shit but she's better than trump.
I'd rather deport illegals than go to war with Russia.

There's only one country I give a shit about, the USA. the rest of you parasites can fuck off. Get the fuck out of my country if you can't do some simple paperwork and wait to get here to get your libtard socialist handouts and join the rest of the faggots who cry oppression.

They don't have to because if you have no income you get it paid by others taxes. You really need to shut your trap about this because you have no idea how it really is. Obama has been the worst president we've ever had because he keeps pushing this socialist b.s. since day one. That shit may work for you but you also have to keep in mind USA is much much larger than Canada so there's a lot more that's unaccounted for

This very argument is over a year old and it doesn't hold up anymore now than it did then. Basically the liberal's justification for voting against Trump without resorting to "he's racist REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Ever hear about want vs. need? It's a fucking job, be happy you have one. That's the problem. There aren't available jobs. Beggars can't be choosers, you fucking leaf.

t. a non-retarded Canadian

>13 year olds who don't give a fuck about shitskins
Why would someone suddenly care about shitskins when they got older? You think people suddenly start liking niggers when they're homeowners and have to worry about property values and school quality?

>you need to be a citizen to collect welfare
No, you absolutely do not. Parents of anchor babies can and do apply for welfare benefits for their ostensibly-American children, and they receive them.

This, I was much more tolerant when I was 13 because I didn't have to deal with niggers.

The fact that you rationalize it like this just shows everyone you're either fucking spoiled or watch msm constantly

>this will fuck up Americas economy
Good
Maybe illegals will start flooding Canada then so you know why we want to get rid of those ugly fuckers

I like these statements, but you have any proof of backing up this scenario? I didn't see anyone getting butthurt over deporting illegals when President Clinton said he would do the same.

There was nothing said about deporting, only reducing importing them and stricter rules they have to comply with to be able to.

You're just mad because most of them would just go to your country.

It all changes when you consider incentives for your own economy, say you want to make shirts which could be in a price competition with the crap coming from China or made by illegals. You can motivate companies to hire Americans and pay them a fair wage for the job, investing in the local economy would mean a tax reduction to a reasonable amount for the said company, instead of investing overseas, they can invest in the US and have a comparable results regarding profit. The extra plus side is more lower educated people get jobs, pay taxes, can spend money, save, invest... Seeing how he also wants to change tradedeals with China with important tax and export tax to make up for the constant devaluation of the Chinese currency, this could result in an insane amount of investments in the US economy.

So these jobs will either disappear or the legal citizens willing to do them will demand better pay? Either way, it sounds like you want undocumented workers to be abused.

$0.10 has been deposited to your account. Thank you, and let's continue correcting the record!

If Trump is elected, it will only bother the 1% like with the Brexit. That's why the 1% grumbles so much against Trump.

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try harder shill

>people still think the elections matter
>Sup Forums hasn't even started planning what they're going to do when modern civilzations collapse and the elite reinstate slavery

jesus christ, check your own source. pic related is total federal spending. The budget's closer to 1.3 trillion annually (according to the source (((you))) cited)

Stop worrying about conjecture on monetary issue that you haven't provided proof towards. I'm more worried about Killary creating another refugee crisis in places like Iran and ruining Europe even more than when she killed Gaddafi.

Yes, we have more than ourselves to think of in this election, and I will not vote for anyone other than the person with the best chance of stopping her from creating even more tragedies for my brothers and sisters across the ocean and here at home.