THE TERM "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT" IS INCENDIARY

it's not about political correctness, it's about common decency

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remember in the simpsons when the leftorium failed and it was set to be replaced by the libertarian party headquarters

lol no i remember the lefty shop but i don't remember it getting replaced. link?

Never got past season 10 so no

libertarians should just go join the democrat party. they're a total joke.

>calling a rapist, a "rapist" is fine
>calling a pedophile, a "pedophile" is fine
>get butthurt calling a spade, a "spade"

Well ti would be common decency to not commit crimes.

We don't want those retards. You keep them.

simpsons tends to be hard to post video of online, but if you look up the episode 'when flanders failed' it's in there.

here's the dialogue though:

Homer: Listen, Flanders, you still have that store?
Ned: For two more days. [sniff] It becomes Libertarian Party headquarters. I hope they have better luck than I did.

Not even that, illegal and undocumented refer to two different groups (though there is a fair amount of overlap, the two aren't the same). Undocumented just means they don't have a birth certificute and shit like that, while illegals are people who have illegally entered and are living in the US. If an illegal has a child in the US, that child is not illegal, but is undocumented. That's the only reason I use undocumented: it's more accurate and encompasses everyone that is generally considered to be an illegal.

You have to go back

But the Democratic party doesn't have conservative economic policies. Come on, don't be an idiot, now.

> Democrat
> calling anybody an idiot
Kek. At least you aren't an evangelical.

he said retard

Common decency? You mean like respecting the laws of another nation, and waiting your turn to be allowed in, rather than illegally coming in, working tax-free, dumping hospital bills on the citizens, all while taking welfare money and sending money back to Mexico?

I'll tell you what: I'll start being "decent" when they respect our laws.

>Gun people who hate gun people
This is why 'pro-gun liberals' are still cancer

False, if you are born in the US, you are a US citizen, and therefore not here illegally. As a result, these people aren't here illegally, but they are undocumented. I'm with you that this PC bullshit needs to go, but this isn't just about being PC (some people make it about that), it's about using a more accurate term.

Democrat party is not liberal enough.

Then pretend it says retard. Point still stands, I'm just extremely intoxicated.

yeah these pepople are pro gun conservatives, there are idiots here and idiots there youtu.be/8_MzhzNHKbM

Few people care about anchor babies except on Sup Forums. So when someone says illegal aliens, they mean people who broke a law, not someone who forgot to fill out some paperwork.

Who the fuck are these cucks?

The point is people are using undocumented as a euphemism to avoid having to say the word illegal.

Do you know what a libertarian actually is? It doesn't sound like it. A libertarian supports conservative economic policy (tax cuts, deregulation of industry, etc.) and oppose gun control. Libertarians support limited government, in what ways does that sound liberal?

I'm just explaining why undocumented is often used. It's more accurate and refers to the whole group that many people refer to as illegals.

Some do, but many use it because it is a more accurate term.

Gary Johnson's VP pick is a gun grabber

go shill somewhere else

It's a good point. Think about how everyone says that "thug" is offensive now, just a place holder for "the n-word."

Granting that the term "illegal" is offensive will only have people change the words, but keep the meaning and the feeling behind them intact. You can't stop it, so why bother complaining?

take the worst aspects of the republican party and the democrat party, mix with weed and voila, you've got a libertarian!

Accurate how? Bill Clinton called them illegal aliens in his 1995 State of the Union. Was he wrong? I don't care if the kids born here are legal. You KNOW the reason they don't want people saying illegal is to try to garner Hispanic votes, not because they give too fucks about a Hispanic serf underclass.

>I certainly believe.
You gotta admit that this is one cute statement.
You get to put the words "certain," and "believe" together, even though what you believe isn't certain at all!

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Euphemism treadmill.

Literally from Ron Paul to Gary Johnson in 8 years lol.

I'm not a libertarian in any sense but there was some logic behind it. Libertarians like Ron Paul did not practice nor condone deviant behaviors like drug use or homosexuality but he believed that people have a right to engage in them. But we also reserve the right to exclude and disassociate from people that engage in these behaviors and those people have to pay their own way in life.

When Gary Johnson was governor of New Mexico, he doubled government spending and tripled the state's debt. Gary Johnson's 2016 running mate is William Weld who believes in gun control. Gary Johnson is a drug abuser who regularly uses the herbal jew. He also supports forcing people to bake cakes for fags. Full open borders. Says we have an obligation to take in our "fair share" of rapefuges. And he lectures people on which words they are allowed to use like an obnoxious sjw college female.

Time to pull the plug on lolbertarianism. Literally the weed and sodomy party.

You sound like a time traveler from 2008.

In 2016 libertarian = ultra liberal.

>When Gary Johnson was governor of New Mexico, he doubled government spending and tripled the state's debt. Gary Johnson's 2016 running mate is William Weld who believes in gun control.

It's more accurate because the group that is often referred to as illegals consists of actual illegals and their US-born children (not illegal). That group together is often called illegals, but undocumented is more accurate because it actually refers to both groups.

> You KNOW the reason they don't want people saying illegal is to try to garner Hispanic votes, not because they give too fucks about a Hispanic serf underclass.

For some people that's the case, but many do use the term because it is more accurate. That's why I use it (plus I try to be apolitical in most settings, and illegal can be a polarizing term even though I do think that many of them are undercutting the lower class American worker).

It's a certainty that he believes such and such. There's nothing wrong with the statement.

Johnson really isn't a very good libertarian, I really wanted Peterson, even though I knew it wouldn't happen. However, he is still better than Trump or Clinton.

Also why do you care if people do things that don't affect you in privacy (smoke weed or fuck butts)? What makes you the one person who can interpret morality? What makes your opinion any more valid than anyone else's?

>What makes you the one person who can interpret morality? What makes your opinion any more valid than anyone else's?

so if I think masturbating in public while staring at your wife is ok moral behavior, will you object? or if I think that murdering a child is acceptable if they lie is moral behavior, what's wrong with that? would your opinion on that matter be more valid than mine?

that's why your moral relativism is fucking stupid

> In 2016 libertarian = ultra liberal.

No it doesn't, you're thinking of the Green party, which is kind of just tumblr: the party. Look at the party's platform and goals? I'll freely admit that Johnson is a shitty libertarian (compare his views to the party's views), but he beats the alternatives. In short, libertarian is economically conservative and socially liberal, except they are against gun control (the only real exception).

That said, Ron Paul was also a shitty libertarian. He was basically half republican and half libertarian.

>illegal immigrant is conservative political corrctness

Marxist thinking in a nutshell.

>why are you so offended by gay marriage, what are you an SJW
>this movie is not anti white, it's just art, what are you against free speech

>he beats the alternative
He supports the fucking TPP you stupid retard.

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And Johnson just lost all hope of ever being considered fit for president.

> would your opinion on that matter be more valid than mine?

Nope, because objective morality doesn't exist. However, most humans agree on a lot of moral issues, so in order to prevent violence and other stuff that most people want to avoid, laws were created. You and I can both agree that murdering a child is wrong, but that doesn't make it true. We both may agree that chocolate ice cream is tasty, but that doesn't make it an objective truth. Also, you avoided the question (I suspect because you can't answer it). Why are butt fucking and smoking weed wrong? They don't affect you.

Not much of an argument you have there. You're basically just using a common opinion (that I happen to share) in order to more or less guilt me into agreeing with you. There are no objective moral facts, unless you have proof of them. I'm pretty sure that you don't have this proof, otherwise you would be in the news. It's too bad, you're too stupid to hear how stupid you sound.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that he isn't perfect (you fucking retard), but despite this he's still less shitty. Trump's a fucking authoritarian and Clinton has even more problems than Trump.

Johnson is from New Mexico, a very hispanic state. To say that he wouldn't try to avoid pissing off Hispanics if he wants re-election is silly. Do you think Johnson lives in a mansion in a wealthy white part of town, or with the poor hispanics?

The main reason to say undocumented is to avoid having to draw attention to the fact that apart from birthright citizens, these people are here illegally and nobody is doing anything about it because it profits the wealthy who can exploit them for cheap labor and votes.

I'm glad you enjoyed Philosophy 101

>Τhis is not politically correct guys
said the amoeba

The term Rapist is incendiary.

It's nonconsensual intercourser

FPBP

It's a season three episode.

It's from season 2, Diego.

Whoops. This CUM IN MUM is right, it was season 3.

Season three, episode three, "When Flanders Failed"

> To say that he wouldn't try to avoid pissing off Hispanics if he wants re-election is silly

Then I guess I'm glad I didn't say that. I offered the fact that it is more accurate as an alternative reason.

Actually philosophy has a lot of problems. It doesn't apply the same process that science does (the scientific method), it's a pretty shitty tool for discovering truth. Because you can't prove a lot of the things philosophy tries to approach (and fails at doing so) simply have no evidence. Things like morality, the existence of god, the meaning of naming an object, etc. For this reason, many philosophers actually don't like more anti-realism (understanding that there is no objective morality) because it trivializes their field. They've spent so much of their lives in philosophy, that admitting that it is flawed and that their assertions come without proper evidence and logic would mean that they wasted 6 years on that PhD.

By the way, you still never actually answered the question. Thanks for convincing me that you absolutely don't know how to answer it and know you're stupid.

And let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

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I guess that poorly written article with no evidence and direct quotes from researchers contradicting the author's claims is going to be the new meme for Japan now. Oh well.

They're right, the correct term is "invader".

as a libertarian, I wish they would have gone with Autism Memerson. I heard him interviewed on a podcast and he seemed pretty good.

as a trump supporter, I'm glad they went with Gary. he's going HARD for the liberal voters, and is completely turning off conservatives (while also attracting the dregs of the GOP establishment). he will only steal from hillary

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I think your views on language shift are naive. People are avoiding the term illegal so that Hispanics will vote for them. He doesn't get votes by being more accurate, but rather by hinting through his speech, that if re-elected he won't deport illegal immigrants (which is the real reason he's saying undocumented). Now he can rationalize it and so can you, and yes, the kids are not illegal, but to just gloss casually over the legality of those who come here, or worse, declare that a failure to do so is immoral, is motivated by something darker than accuracy.

Yep. Sorry Hachiko, seems like Cum in Mum is here to stay.

Good better he snatches up Clinton voters than Trump voters. I hope Johnson says the most libtarded things possible.

Did Gary change his (((name))) ?

I imagine it'll last a few weeks, Sup Forums has a short attention span. And no everyone is obsessed with fucking their moms like Australians.

Going home to fuck my wife now, hope you can hold a sheep down long enough to finish yourself!

Good luck with that, German politically correct term "Fachkräfte" ("skiled workers") for illegal immigrants has become a meme of its own.

How about "cultural enrichers"?

>if you asked 1000 latinos, do you think a significant majority would find issue with the term?

Well, if you asked 1000 Americans if they had problem with people coming to their country illegally i bet majority would, but did "latinos" gave a shit about that?

Also
>Break the law by crossing the border illegally
>get butthurt that someone calls you illegal immigrant

you can't make this shit up

I've been saying this for a while. He reeks of crypto-jew

>And no everyone is obsessed with fucking their moms like Australians.

What a "No U" comment. How are Australians obsessed with their mums? Other people's mums maybe, because "Ya Mum" is a popular insult, but for the most part we don't give a fuck about them. We sure as shit don't cum in mum like your mob.

>Undocumented just means they don't have a birth certificute and shit like that
?

>If an illegal has a child in the US, that child is not illegal, but is undocumented.
No that child is a documented US citizen due to birthright citizenship policies

Would he be OK if we use the term undocumented Mexicans?

no, calling em mexicans is racist

But lets be realistic here.

They are mostly Mexicans.
People can't possible think there are undocumented Australians or Canadians upon to million of them in United States right?

Actually most of the new ones coming in are Central Americans. D.C. is fucking flooded with 'em.

youre right but now since there are so many of them, white cuckold politicians have to pander to them for votes. much of it goes beyond pandering now, they've gone full blown SJW and they're in complete denial

>United States is turning into Brazil

Emmm, It really makes you think

its not even an exaggeration

in 20 years this country will be super fucked

Hispanics need to stop being so thin skinned. They're basically saying "stop reminding me that my cousin is a law breaker." I can't think of a single group of people more entitled than illegal immigrants. They entered our country illegally and uninvited and then they piss and moan about how we run this place, and then they crank out a bunch of anchor babies who can vote for the exact kind of shitty politicians who ruined the countries that they abandoned.

It's time to stop making excuses for these people. They are trespassing in our home and they have no right whatsoever to complain about how they are treated or words we use to describe them. If they don't like it then they should have stayed home.

>conservative political correctness
so being PC means using """offensive""" terms now

these dubs prove KEK approves of this post.

>republicans
>putting people into socialist gulags
huh?

>You raped a loli, Gary
>Undocumented sex by the way, the term rape is incendiary ok?
>Why is that?
>Is just is, is just is, just so that you know and you don't have to use that term.
>But isn't the term acurate, I mean you fuck her without her consent so it was rape.
>I raped her cause I couldn't fuck her legally, the atractiveness existed, you would've done the same thing.
>But if you have sex without the girl's consent isn't that illegal, isn't that rape?
>You are describing it as something criminal.
>No I mean the question is simple, isn't it illegal to have sex without the girl's concent?
>Technically, yes.