Italians sure love to complain about everything

Italians sure love to complain about everything.

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We all do.

>When lefties talk shit.

How effective was Mussolini at economics? From what I understood he drew some thoughts from syndicalism. What do you think?

Italians simply know that he was shit

Muh Marshes, train, pension

he was originally a Marxist

I thought some Italians still liked him? It isn't like Germany where its illegal to say anything other than he was satan himself, right?

He was great. Some people here still idolize him today.

Right, it's technically illegal but that law has never ever been taken seriously.

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And he was socialist, that in Italy is quite different

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is the fasces thought of as taboo in Italy, like a swastika would be?

No. there is even a group composed of young fascists.

I like to think Italy will survive the cuckening. You guys are the remnants of the Romans, for fucks sake

Yes, fasces are quite taboo, but italy is a strange place, remember it

anything goes here except the swastika. We actually have fasces and other Roman symbols in our capitol building

We do what we can, hamburger. We do what we can.

Italians are the oiliest shits I've ever met.

Yes, but i just discovered that some towns have it in their own stemma even there in Italy.

It's a shame that he raped such a good symbol

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you've probably never met a single Italian though, perhaps someone with 1/512 ancestry from Calabria

at least it didn't get associated with Hitler, like the Roman salute did

the only Italian I knew claimed to be Sicilian and was annoying as hell. They're literally niggers

southern italy is basically africa

"""Fascist""" symbols are historical "symbols" of the Ancient Rome, it's not illegal and using those can't be illegal. It's not illegal to talk about fascism. It's not illegal to BE a fascist. It's not illegal to say that fascism was good (it was, a lot, until we had to be Hitler's ally).
The only thing that it's illegal is to form a fascist party. Still, "neo-fascist" parties do exist (but obviously they claim they are not fascists). There's no "intelligentsia" in them anyway and nobody takes them seriously.

Not everyone but ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Italia si, Italia no, Italia bum. La terra dei cachi

Was he the only European leader ever to lose to African savages? What a failure and a disgrace.

Mussolini was good. Don't listen to that italian cuck. He probably sucks other men's dick.

I thought asian education was supposed to be good? He won against niggers.

trips don't lie

burger in italy. can confirm

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I'm from Foggia and a large part of the town centre has fascist origin and symbolism
Italy plaza has two gioant not-fasces like structures and our town hall has an M shape and has bas-relieves of Mussolini

During his time all italian manholes were on the same level as the streets.

We lose in africa against england, not against the niggers.

Followed Giolitti's path during the first years and went good. During 1929 crisis our industry went 40% broke and the state nationalized it, this particular aspect remained unchanged until 1990 and many italian companies are still under state control through "golden shares".
The grain campaign was a fucking mess tho, he did better when he listened to his advisors (80% of the time).

there is still an obelisk in Rome with "Mussolini Dux" written on it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_obelisks_in_Rome#Modern_obelisks

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but (((someone))) wants to cancel at least the Dux part

Pastaniggers love to chimpout.

>mexico
oh the irony

We just complain, rarely italians chimpout.
We are too lazy for that baka desu senpai.

Just finished reading Doctrines of Fascism and enjoyed it. I just wish he didn't get so BTFO in the war. Was it case of sheep leading lions, his fetish for tankettes, or something else?

Mussolini-appreciation thread?
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He was too focused on the state and not on spirituality. Had he focused his movement on something greater than what we have on earth, he could have overcome any obstacle that was physically bound, including Marxism.

>his fetish for tankettes
Given how cute they are you can't blame him.

I still don't understand why he invaded us.
Was he seriously trying to impress Hitler by not being useless for once?

pretty much yeah
I mean as we know it was his plan to ultimately gain control of mare nostrum, and perhaps he thought Greece would be a good start. No hard feelings though, I can understand Italians being discontent with attacking Greece.

>gain control of mare nostrum
Hol' up.
Why did he believe that a multi-ethnic state would work given his Nationalist ideas?
Isn't that contradictory? Or was he planning to install puppet states?

he had an Imperial idea, just like with ancient Rome, which means he wanted those territories to be under one organic state with multiple nations but controlled from Italy
Imperialism and nationalism aren't contradictory as the former by definition contains multiple distinct nations under one banner

So, a bunch of nationalities working for a top controlling one?
Well, we had enough of that during the Ottoman Empire. There is a reason our motto is "Freedom or death".

yeah, nice freedom we've got by being small nato puppet states m8....
I mean after you got raped by the EU you claim you are freer?
An Imperial Mediterranean empire would've actually let us have independence from being controlled by outer (((economic forces))), imagine having control of the vast resources of Africa and the near east for our own.
Mussolini simply saw Italy as being the rightful historical center of this.

I never said that we are happy with NATO and the EU.
Back then, we did not expect things to go so horribly wrong. You were seen as a threat to our existence since you declared war on us instead of having a conversation with Metaxa and sorting things out. Also, we were pretty pissed off that you torped one of our destroyers on a holy day.
However, you are right. A neo-Roman empire would be hillarious. And a major driving force in Europe.
If i remember correctly, during the occupation, in order to calm us down since we were stupidly rebellious, he tried spreading the phrase "Una fazza una razza" in order to make us feel more at home with the you lads by implying that we are very similar people. Obviously, it did not have much effect to calm things down but it stayed with us regardless and we still like you Italians quite a bit. Do you lads see us as your "cultural brothers"? Or is it just a meme propagated by South Italians?

yeah Greeks and Iberians are pretty much seen as bros by everyone who isn't one of those sefl-hating nu male cucks who loves anglo-atlantic liberal PC culture
even back then the reason for the low morale of Italian troops was probably linked to attacking Greece in the first place

Mussolini was stupid. He invaded you because he was like: "Hey, look at me, I have a big hard cock!"

Mussolini was a cuck, Balbo > mussolini.

I see conflicting opinions.
What is the true redpill about Mussolini?

they way he handled wartime stuff was abysmal, I don't think there is much disagreement on that
but ideally I can see he had some important ideas about us Mediterraneans, I very much doubt he woke up one day with a sudden hate for Greeks

>just got back from a trip around italy
>everything was dirty
>people cold
>unfriendly
>upset when you ask for help
Amalfi coast was pretry and had good food. Everywhere else was just a tourist trap. Drove me crazy.

There was no hate for greeks at all, just them being british puppets and stuff.

So, he was like Hitler with his handling of the military?
Were his economic policies as effective tho? DId he truly make Italy great again?

Where did you go?

At school I mostly read about le epic ww1 trench warfare not much about ww2.
The more I look into it I'm of the opinion he was a cuck of the king, the pope, the rich captains of industry.

>At school I mostly read about le epic ww1 trench warfare
>a gajillion battles for Isonzo
After the 10 attempt you would have expected them to try something new

>something new

Such as?
It was a fight over a mountain range with a big ass river in the middle.

Literally a symbol of Authority

>Such as?
Not wasting hundreds of thousands of young lads in order to satisfy the eternal anglo?

Mussolini was a Mediterraneanist

Balbo was better, it was unfortunate that he died, not a fan of his Republicanism though

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Countries on Western Front always like to mock Italy for this, but we didn't have much to work with, the Western entente had flatlands, forests, and rolling hills, we had foothills, Tall mountains and rivers