Did the Nazis deny the holocaust at the Nuremberg Trials?

Did the Nazis deny the holocaust at the Nuremberg Trials?

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No, because their family's were threatened.

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If you are interested, you can read the transcripts at "the avalon project" at yale site or, better, watch the documentary "one third of the holocaust."

Some, like Rudolph Hoess, were tortured brutally into coming up with wild exaggerations for the promise a quick death and that their families would not be hurt.

when Germany was "liberated," the Jews were basically allowed to run wild around Germany to take "revenge" on anyone they so liked.

everyone at Nuremberg was tortured, a few (like Goering) managed to get someone to smuggle arsenic.

The best speech (one for the ages) was given by Hess (different from Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz) Here it is (worth the 2 mins to listen to it, "even if I had to it all over again and knew that it would all end in a fiery death, I would do nothing differently..")

youtube.com/watch?v=PO6Zk5qkYcA

hivemind
>youtube rudolf hess

This is a good site about Hess. Can't find a link to the text of his speech, since it was so defiant and actually amazing, the Jews have shut down any links to the text on google.
If you look around here, you might find it, otherwise just listen to audio with subtitles:

rudolfhess.net/

Can you provide evidence? The only reason I dont 100% think the holocaust was fake is because they didn't deny i, which is probably the most solid reason you can give to believe it happened, so I want to know if what you said is true

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>hivemind
no user, that's led-it. This is legendary. For all the bullshit you hear about St. Nelson of the Necklace Mandela, Hess did 46 years in solitary despite having flown to UK solo, avoiding AA fire and fighter jets and managing to parachute down within 3 miles of his intended destination.

If Churchill were not a corrupt flunky of the Jews, peace could have been reached right there. When Churchill treated him like scum and jailed him, the Germans had to act like he had lost his mind.

46 years in solitary for trying to sue for peace. And in the end, he was murdered by MI 6, as they were terrified of releasing him that the population would rally around him and elect him to an office:

youtube.com/watch?v=XjzqoqTr9nY

it would have been interesting to see what would've happened if Himmler were kept alive and he had to speak at Nuremburg

Hint: it wasn't a real lawful trial, it was just called that way. Nuremberg Trial defined from the beginning that it does not require any evidence or common judicial procedures. You can't really even call it a "kangaroo court", it was simply show set up by the winning side

bunch of books from the time. "A Gruesome Harvest," numerous memoirs that mention it, even Patton (before he was killed) allowed to how they were being treated before the trials and that it was a "Semitic" way of doing things.

There is evidence, but you needed to look: testicles smashed with hammers, toe nails pulled out, just brutal stuff.

you have to read Hoess's testimony carefully, as he was sending "dog whistles" throughout his testimony to signal he was being coerced by giving numbers and things he knew that physical evidence would show was impossible.

Keep in mind, in the 1950s, a Jew won an oscar for a film still claiming the evil Nazis made lampshades of Jews, soap, and shrunk their heads.

Another book I'd recommend on what happened to Germans after the war is "Other Losses."

no, they denied being involved in the holocaust

>you have to read Hoess's testimony carefully, as he was sending "dog whistles" throughout his testimony to signal he was being coerced by giving numbers and things he knew that physical evidence would show was impossible.

what do you mean by dog whistles?

there was an article about Goebbels' secretary who is 105 years old on her death bed claiming that she knew nothing. All of the comments to the article were "of course she knew, she was a Nazi!" She was Berlin, how the fuck would she have known what the SS were up to in the concentration camps?

>if Himmler were kept alive
In the end, he proved to be coward who essentially sold out Hitler at the end. you would have gotten the same results-- threats to family and torture.

As it worked out, Himmler's daughter survived, married into money and helped former SS men with all sorts of things (from legal defense to living money) throughout her life. I think she's still alive, and even the Jews mostly leave her alone

sort of like Dr. Pierce, she has a reputation that if the Jews ever messed with her, they could get a few unpleasant surprises bc lots of people feel very loyal to her.

she's like 87, and still defends the reputation of her father

Its a way of showing he was being coerced without getting in deeper shit.

yeah i get the definition, but how exactly did he imply that during his testimony?

He gives "evidence" that he knows can be shown by anyone he looks to have been physically impossible.

I haven't read it a long time, but if I'm remembering right he talks a "tank engine's exhaust" used to "gas Jews" and inflates the numbers so much that it's impossible.

In short, in court testimony he painted himself as an actual "Ben Garrison" knowing that the Jews wouldn't/couldn't call him out for this kind of thing in court, but that anyone who looked into it later would know it was impossible.

Thanks, will definitely be doing some research tonight. And it pisses me of when people whole heartedly believe the whole Jewish skin lamp and other stuff when even a simple Google search would be enough to open there eyes

>Goebbels' secretary
they also doctored that picture to make her look like some sort of evil, non-human alien. Poor woman probably never expected to live so long and so had to give in to the Jews to get the shekels to pay for her final year or so and for her funeral/burial.

Irving did a lot of interviews with all the secretaries before the Jews broke him.

>Nazis constantly say jews are subhuman scourge of humanity
>Gather the jews up in camps
>Specifically target jews throughout the course of WW2
>Jews disappear
>Nazis did nothing wrong though

holocaust deniers are legitimately retarded

Yep, there are plenty of hints out there that he was murdered at Spandau

Oh good, she still is alive, hadn't checked in a while. Not only defends her father, but holds gathering and raises money for former SS men and manages to get it to them (very, very few left, but about 10 years ago, knew former SS men in AZ who had been helped by her organization).

she ended up redeeming her name from any of her father's cowardice at the very end.

>Hey guys! Let's kill free labor in a labor shortage!

it isn't fair that he had his life ruined just for writing books. And now they're taunting him with that movie that's coming out

Didnt they enact an "Article 19" which said that "regular evidence as in normal courts" wouldnt be needed for these trials?

Lol, they're so stupid that they didn't say they were being tortured. Specially since the whole planet was watching. Damn, nazis are fucking retarded or you're a fucking liar.

What happened to Irving?

>It's insane, therefore they didn't do it
ok friend

>Reminder that almost all of the regular german soldiers who were brought in to testify against their superiors were found to have recently been tortured, usually with extensive damage to their genitals.

I'm sure it was all reliable and accurate testimony though.

Are there really people who don't see the Nuremberg Trials as a clear example of a kangaroo court?

surely when she does die the media will dedicate the next 2 minutes of hate to her

>he was murdered at Spandau
when they gave the casket to his family, it had been WELDED shut.
Luckily, his son Wolfgang is a stubborn guy (who still defends his father) and still paid to have it opened and for a private autopsy.

The claim was that he...strangled himself with a wire (which was shown to be basically physically impossible).

Jews are such animals, they even had his bones dug up in middle of night a few years ago and removed bc people used to visit and leave flowers.

The original plan was to move the Jews away, for instance to Madagascar.
There are literally plans of this with Hitler's signature on them.

During the war, the Jews were put in concentration camps, which was a very common practice on all sides (Brits, US, Japanese, ... all used concentration camps) as a cheap solution pending the end of the war.
As the war worsened for the Germans, the conditions at the camps worsened, which is to be expected.
Not a single link between Hitler and the actual Holocaust (i.e. deliberate mass-murder) exists.

Moving the Jews away: Hitler directly involved (with written proof).
Killing the Jews: Hitler in no way directly involved (no proof whatsoever).

That's what I learned from my own modest research anyway.

>recommends two most thoroughly debunked books on the subject

got put in prison for a while, got banned from most European countries, and is universally reviled

That is basically everything you need to know about the past, the current time and the future.

If foreigin Nation gives the leaders of another nation a trial it never will be a fair one.

They killed them once they were not useful for work. That's why some survived.

>Nuremberg Trials
Show trial with no regard for justice.

Much like Saddam's trial.
youtube.com/watch?v=PCJ8JqtGahQ

He coughed a lot and made bird calls when no-one was looking.

The thing is, it's not like the Nazis had any problems killing Jews by the hundreds summarily. There are countless documented instances of mass killings.
Even if at some point that was there original plan, why is it so implausible that at some point they realised they might as well just kill them all?
It's not like they had any problems with them dying.

>You don't believe insane sounding things without solid evidence first? What are you some type of idiot?
ok amico

>Jews disappear

Oh... is that how their population didn't change, even after six gorillion of them were turned into lampshades?

>hat they didn't say they were being tortured
Are you brainless? All their leverage was that "if you say anything, your family dies."

i'm not even Germanic, my Grandfather was French and died in the war fighting on the other side.
Have no sympathy for Germans or Nat socialists in particular (esp seeing germans march under arc de triomphe) but in the interests of being faithful to history, the entire thing was a kangaroo court and, as Patton said, a "Semitic" way of doing things rather than a European.

Europeans don't treat vanquished enemies with a jewish lust for revenge and blood, as Patton noted before a truck ran him over.

I cant imagine how he must feel now.. I think if I was him I would do something to them, even if it hits just a few

Should they have all pulled a stunt like this?
"Yes, life in a forced labor camp can be so isolating. At times I felt that we alone bore the burden of cleansing the world of its rabble. We had an empire to protect. We needed the resources!
Everything we did was for the greater glory of the Reich! And if you spineless scum had to be ground under, so much the better! All that mattered was the Reich! I loved my homeland! That's what justified my actions; that's what gave me my strength.
My men understood that, and that's why they loved me. I would order them to go out and kill jewish scum, and they'd do it, they'd murder them! They'd come back covered in blood but they felt clean! Now why did they feel that way, major? Because they were clean!"

Radical ideologues can't really be expected to act very rationally.

They literally wrote that documents written by the very people trying them would be considered evidence in there.
With standards like that, I could "prove" that I was anally raped by a unicorn.

No, because they were tortured and threatened by the US and UK who were working in collaboration with Zionists in order to form the state of Israel less than 3 years later.

The "6 million" was regularly reported by Zionist owned US newspapers decades before they got the idea to stick with the Nazis.

However, the Nazis did deliberately kill Jewish people. The actual death toll for Jews is around 4.9-5.4 million between 1933-1945.

>this video is not available in your country

>horoughly debunked
(((thoroughly debunked))) by (((trusted scholars)))

he's almost 80. He's got nothing left. He put out all of his books for free on his website digitally. He's a free speech martyr

I never said Jews weren't killed in large numbers.

In war, civilians are often purposely victimized, just look at Dresden for example.

But I would like some sources on what you're saying; give me a few examples of Jews being deliberately killed in large numbers by Nazis.
Not saying it didn't happen, I just want you to be specific.

>if you say anything your family dies
>implying being vindicated and showing how evil your enemies are wouldn't be enough to spare them from dying in a 'freak car accident'

Brilliant.

Stormkikes are full fucking retard at times.

Dude, France declared war on us and Wehrmacht deliberately did NOT walk THROUGH the Arc to decrease humiliation and Wehrmacht saluted in front of your population your fallen soldiers at the grave of the unknown soldier at the Arc.

just use...fuck what is the app Germans use proxyflow. Attach it to chrome. all germans use and say it works.

Yeah, but what didn't they deny? Because up until recently (relatively), they never said 6 million jews were killed. So were they just agreeing that 300k jews died from things like typhus while in concentration camps?

And what gets me, are things like 1918 when the jews killed 2 million germans in germany.

>Implying that was the real Hess

Nigga please

>population didn't change
What? At least some of them would have died fighting.

The stipulation s in the opening sentences spoken at the Nuremberg Trial declare that the committee will not consider factual evidence or logic.

They declare that right in the beginning. There were kikes on the committee and they pushed their narrative hard, talking over everyone else.

This is also what happened at the WTC findings (Isareli representatives kept blaming muslim hijackers and controlling the conversation). You can download both the minutes of the Nuremberg Trial and the WTC committee and read the kikery fir yourself.

We live in a Matrix, dont we?

poor guy, I will check out his books

You know what's sad... everything we are saying will be banned soon when the UN takes over ICANN in a few weeks.

>Brilliant.
yes, Jews never did things like poison the bread meant for POWs and brag about it afterwards in Canada, beat over 350 Germans to death in captivity (solomon morrel, see book "an eye for an eye.")
His crimes were so vicious, Poland requested extradition from Israel (which they of course refused).

Of course, it's complete retardation to say Jews tortured Germans in captivity, there is absolutely no evidence of this, hymie.

people have spent a long time studying all of this and going to archives, but you, edgelord, obviously have superior knowledge based on your high school diploma.

>The stipulation s in the opening sentences spoken at the Nuremberg Trial declare that the committee will not consider factual evidence or logic.

>They declare that right in the beginning. There were kikes on the committee and they pushed their narrative hard, talking over everyone else.

Quotes and sources please.

>You can download both the minutes of the Nuremberg Trial and the WTC committee and read the kikery fir yourself.
>Doesn't say where to download
>Doesn't just post the fucking quotes to save everyone some time

At the end of the war, Kovner was one of the founders of a secret organization Nakam (revenge), also known as Dam Yisrael Noter ("the blood of Israel avenges", with the acronym DIN meaning "judgement")[9] whose purpose was to seek revenge for the Holocaust.[10][11][12] Two plans were formulated. Plan A was to kill a large number of German citizens by poisoning the water supplies of Hamburg, Frankfurt, Munich, and Nuremberg, Nakam intended to kill 6 million Germans.[13] Plan B was to kill SS prisoners held in Allied POW camps. In pursuit of Plan A, members of the group were infiltrated into water and sewage plants in several cities, while Kovner went to Palestine in search of a suitable poison.[9] Kovner discussed Nakam with Yishuv leaders, though it is not clear how much he told them and he doesn't seem to have received much support.[12] According to Kovner's own account, Chaim Weizmann approved the idea and put him in touch with the scientist Ernst Bergmann, who gave the job of preparing poison to Ephraim Katzir (later president of Israel) and his brother Aharon. Historians have expressed doubt over Weizmann's involvement, since he was overseas at the time Kovner specified.[12] The Katzir brothers confirmed that they gave poison to Kovner, but said that he only mentioned Plan B and they denied that Weizmann could be involved.[9] As Kovner and an accomplice were returning to Europe on a British ship, they threw the poison overboard when Kovner was arrested. He was imprisoned for a few months in Cairo and Plan A was abandoned.[11][12]

But the question, is there even a possiblity for a fair politcal process ever. It is a question of power and Trust, like law always is. The politics room leaves Little to no space to manouver, if enemies are concernt.

Israel said that Morels crimes were lapsed.

But today in Germany 95 year olds get prosecuted for being the cook at Auschwitz.

>labor shortage
What were Slavs?

Post source, thanks.

they didnt disappear
they went to israel and founded it

Remember Ursula Haverbeck? The old lady they sentenced to 10 months of jail for denying the holocaust (she did it on German tv). They sentenced her to another 8 months now, because she claimed that Auschwitz was a work camp and doubted the witness reports of the survivors. Such is life in Germany.

>Nakam intended to kill 6 million Germans.[13]
this is from kikeapedia. Now, keep in mind, this was still in 1945, but amazingly, there is that number "6 million" again, which the Jews had been using for over 200 years bc it was symbolic to them.

please do look into it. It's the single most hideous series of crimes against german nationalists. Makes me sick that few people care to investigate what they are "taught" in school

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abba_Kovner

(go to footnotes if you don't want to trust kikepedia, but if it were going to be biased, would be ina way that favored jews).

did you all know this what this word actually comes from?

This fucking movie sums it all up lit, from start to now....

Anyways, it's their ritual slaughter of goyim children, that is what holocaust means...

So this is yet another jewish trick, to try and clearly succeeded in deflecting the satanic origins of it to profit them. I am so sick I'm about to puke....

youtube.com/watch?v=bm34sj65MkA

it's not a meme. these sick semites captues children, mutilate their genitalia, and torture them by sticking small holes all over their body, with the aim of collecting the blood.

This blood depending on season an purpose is burned on the fire as a sacrifice, the most disgusting one is that they make the bread for passover with the blood.

Watch this entire shit, I was thrown off by this. It is lit like thousands upon thousands of well documented cases all through history, that they do this and rape children, cover it, bribe their way and finally get murdered or evicted.

So I guess what happened to the egyptians first born..... fuckers drained them.. it's getting very clear now.

You know this types of blood sacrifice we also did, except we were not filthy semites and did it in the open. If a mannablot, which you only have a few docs of, they would take the king and blame him for shitty timus. But we did slaughter animals like this all 4 seasons. Bleed out the animal in hov or barn, painted the god figures, squirted it on the people, painted the walls red... then ate the ANIMAL

Jews btw claim only they are humans and the rest are animals... I want to kill all jews now. Satanism is just judaism too

good goy

>Israel said that Morels crimes were lapsed.
That's an amazing one, isn't it? Not only morrell, but all the Jewish commissars from after the USSR who killed millions (in some cases tens of millions) that israel took in and refused to give up.

But the same jews want to hunt 100 year old clerks (who were 17 at the time, drafted into service) to the ends of the earth. And they get away with it.

Sickening.

they aren't revealing the bread this jew DID poison, which killed about 25 men and made many others sick.

They then went on a tour in the 1960s to synagogues all over the US and Canada and bragged about their brave deed, poisoning unarmed men.

My granddad, 91 years old and a Wehrmacht Paratrooper still has an ardent hate for the kikes.

And the more I come to know the more I think he is right about it.

Census records after the war show roughly 400,000 jews missing. Incidentally that's the amount of jews in total camps at the end of the war. The other 1.1 million prisoners were random eastern Europeans.

The memorial plackards have even been altered to reflect these correct numbers, they haven't said "6million" in a long time.

Unrelated but after the war jews got free welfare in allied countries, and the number of people who applied for it was greater than the entire population of jews before the war

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>No, because they were tortured and threatened by the US and UK who were working in collaboration with Zionists in order to form the state of Israel less than 3 years later.

>The "6 million" was regularly reported by Zionist owned US newspapers decades before they got the idea to stick with the Nazis.

>However, the Nazis did deliberately kill Jewish people. The actual death toll for Jews is around 4.9-5.4 million between 1933-1945.

400,000 you fucking kike

They really did nothing wrong, why would god grant him heaven if he gassed innocents

I don't know if anyone has any proof that the holocaust didn't happen, if they did it would be nice to see it. It just seems like a conspiracy to me.

My dad went to visit Auschwitz last year, and apparently there were fingernail marks on the doors that were used to gas people. Any reasonable explanation for that?

oh, here is the bread thing. they are lying, Germans DID die, but they needed an excuse not to punish or jail the Jews. It was something like ~ 25:

"In April 1946, members of Nakam broke into a bakery used to supply bread for the Langwasser internment camp near Nuremberg, where many German POWs were being held. They coated many of the loaves with arsenic but were disturbed and fled before finishing their work. More than 2,200 of the German prisoners fell ill and 207 were hospitalized, but no deaths were reported.[12][14]

yeah how semitic isn't that?
i mean for gods sake it's from another age.

Here when it passes x years for y crime, it doesn't count anymore, even murder. I think but I am not sure, that after 21 years it's not valid for punishment anymore

The crime needs to be lapsed in the jurisdiction where it was committet. Since it was committed in Poland it didnt lapse.

The decision not to extradit Salomon Morel was a political one.

>still has an ardent hate for the kikes.
I had lots of friends whose grandparents were in far, lived in West Berlin for a time when I was young.
something I noticed: most of the men came home and sort of forgot the war, just put it behind them. But the women remained hardcore Nazis until they died, maybe bc of the Soviet invasion and what happened.
This is why the Jews have such a special hatred for German women and push interracial shit-- in many ways, German women were the backbone of the movement.
I heard all sorts of weird shit. Friends grandmothers said never to get involved with girls from the east, bc they might be daughters of Russian rape babies.
I was only 9 at the time, but wow did I learn a lot very fast.

fingernails cant melt steel doors

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They can in your mind and it's real then.

>proof that the holocaust didn't happen
a. The burden of proof for a crime is that IT DID, not that it DID NOT.
b. you have to define terms. By "holocaust," do you mean Jews were shot as communist partisans on the eastern front and died in large numbers from diease, which was rampant in camps after infrastructure was bombed to shit and there was no food or medicine even for German citizens?

Of course that happened. If the jews wan tto call that a "holocuast," that's fine with me. the best numbers we have, based on Red Cross numbers, from all causes is somewhere between 350k-800k Jews died. Of all causes in that war.
did the germans "gas" anyone or have a systematic "death assembly line?" that's the bullshit part, and the aspect the Jews use to shake down Germany to this day. They have already gotten over $85 Billion from germany.

Highly recommend book "The Holocaust Industry" by the jew Dr. Norman Finkelstein.

You can just watch "the greatest story never told"... it will give you a good start to learning the truth.

Also, study WW1 and everything that happened before and after it. Once you study enough, you will see the holocaust is bullshit.

I actually started studying history, while thinking the holocaust was real... after you do enough research, you will start to like Hitler, hate Jews, and realize the holocaust never happened. Trust me, you are exactly how I was before extensive research.

Occasionally I greet my grand parents with Heil Hitler when I am in the mood and they usually greet back, raising their 90 year old arms.

My other grandma said: "Who was in a KZ has done something to get him there!"

Speaking of KZ they never talk about them as extermination camps and they told me that it was more dishonourable to be sent to regular prison than to KZ.

KZ in their memory was like a bootcamp, and even a far relative of mine got sentenced to 6 month in concnetration camp because she doctored documents or something.

My grandparents still hate her she was apprently mentally ill and tried to steal jewlry from them after the war and claimed she was a Nazi victim.

>Americans, americans, americans, englishmen, americans
>QUICK WE HAVE TO BOMB THE FRENCH AND THE GERMANS

Mudslimes...

I don't know if it happened Nazi officials act proud of killing Jews?

only 85 billion?
then how can america have over 20 trillion in debt
makes you think

>Finkelstein

Tell me this is a joke