Serious question

Serious question.

How the FUCK did America lose Vietnam?
You spent like 200 times more than them on your military and you STILL got BTFO.
How is that even practically possible?

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>How the FUCK did America lose Vietnam?

Same can be said as how the FUCK you lost Afghanistan in the 1800s

because politicians ran the war not genrals

Implying they didn't just want to have eternal war so weapon manufacturers can jew as much money as possible, if they wanted to they could have turned Vietnam into one big crater.

Because America has forgotten the old adage "war is hell." Instead we try to be as nice as possible in wars. We try to befriend civilians and minimize casualties. It never works, but we do it anyway. We never shouldn't have gotten involved in Vietnam, but we could have won if we just started leveling cities like we did in WWII.

It's an urban legend, Vietnams loses were huge, they pulled out mainly for political timing reasons.

they couldnt invade the north.

US goverment was losing control of the citizens and the Vietcong offered a peace deal that they never actually abided by.

America should have went back in, but they didn't have enough support to throw everyone back overseas.

and America in the 1700s

Liberalism and decadence of war-spirit within the army.
Peaceful movements made the viet victory.

The Soviet Union won WW2 you dumbfuck. The U.S. had a negligible effect on it's enemies. The U.S. military is fucking terrible because it is focused on tech and imitates (poorly) superior militaries like ours. So it can't adapt and just blows the fuck out of everyone and creates more enemies.

Don't you wonder why pretty much everybody in the world hates your country and the people from it? Because you are a kike mirror experiment of superior Europeans, a failed money making scam.

Leveling cities like you did in Korea and still couldn't win against the chink peasants?

> we could have won if we just started leveling cities like we did in WWII

This is why the US lost Vietnam. They imagined there were cities like Dresden they could level and win the war by. That's what they wanted - fighting a colonial guerrilla war in the jungle with conscripts versus a very motivated local NLF enemy is much more difficult.

Also, all the talk about bombing Hanoi - Nixon did bomb Hanoi. What did he not do? Bomb Hanoi? He did. Mine the harbors? He did. Launch the Phoenix project to murder civilian teachers, intellectuals, Buddhists etc. who wanted Americans out? Done. Invade Cambodia and Laos? Done. What exactly was the US not doing?

There are taped phone calls with Kennedy talking about how Vietnam was a lost cause. Those discussions probably occurred with Eisenhower and Dulles.

The political situation in the US was such that electing a president who would pull the plug (as in say 1968) was disallowed. So even after the Tet offensive when it became common knowledge among all intellectuals that it was a lost cause, another 25,000 US soldiers were sent in to die.

What a shitty excuse.

You were fed to the (((machine))) like the good goyim you were and still are.

>20:1 KDR
>bombed the gooks into the stone age TWICE

yeah sounds like they rekt us pretty good

Reminder: the Brits had military control of Vietnam before we did and left due to failing to control it.

Reporters and libfags lost it for us. We should have just glassed them and moved on.

American citizens weren't accustom to seeing so many images of dead or suffering American soldiers on TV. So they got upset, and called for it to end.

Militarily, US was really close to complete victory.

We needed a buffer between China and our ally state (South Vietnam) or risk a direct war. Our leadership didn't allow us to win, they were only allowed to decimate the enemy and train the locals so we kept an ally in the area. Unfortunately China didn't play it as subtley as we did, as soon as we left they surged North Vietnam with Chinese troops and equipment and destroyed South Vietnam again. They didn't do the same in Korea because Japan was our ally and they wanted a border between themselves and Japan (South Korea).

Think about it, if either side wants to take land in the other (South/North Vietnam, South/North Korea) they can blame their puppet state. If that puppet state didn't exist, and land grab would provoke an actual war between China and the US which neither side feels confident about.

Welcome to proxy wars. Next class we'll talk about why Russia and the US won't allow any middle eastern country outside of SA and Israel to hold a stable government.

largely due to political interference tying the military's hands. I think this is the problem with the west's military as a whole to be honest.

That's what you do when you realise you can't handle something. What you don't do is run your country into financial ruin and pointlessly send hundreds of thousands of young men to their deaths. There's no shame in noble defeat but you wouldn't know anything about nobility being a diaspora immigrant subhuman.

It isn't rocket science. The draft basically guarantees doesn't among the drafted. Of it were done today, it would cause the next civil war.

US would win on the long run, but they got tired of this bullshit and decided its not worth the trouble anymore

>Instead we try to be as nice as possible in wars. We try to befriend civilians and minimize casualties
>It never works

(((Who))) came up with that idea? You say it never works almost as if you're surprised by it and that isn't part of the ploy all along. Let's look at some other countries who've tried to be nice (not even during wars) and tried to befriend civilians from outside of the country

>France
Nope
>Germany
Nope
>Sweden
Nope
>Britain
Nope
>USA
Nope
>Belgium
Nope
>Italy
Nope
>Spain
Nope
>Canada
Nope

It's almost like the exact same (((people))) have put the same exact plans into practice while knowing exactly what the outcome will be because they already know what happens.

We stopped the bombing.
They were ready to surrender but we pussied out and stopped bombing them

This, with an added heaping helping of the difficulties fighting a guerrilla war with conventional forces.

Probably because natural born leaders like Bill Clinton were raping women at Oxford instead of fighting.

The gooks put chemicals in the weed so burgers became hippie pacifists
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Backstab by leftists. Tet Offensive was a huge failure for the Vietnamese - but it was played as American defeat and US lost hope.