I am writing this for all of you out there that can and are willing to help me and millions of others out.
For the last ten years I suffered from severe persistent neurological pain from exposure when I was working as a petroleum worker, this also manifested itsef into other disabilities mental deficits and severe depression.
I had been put on Oxycodones/ Vicodins by my former doctors and soon found myself addicted with no way to stop, eventually being told by the same doctor to get on suboxones, and when I couldn't afford those I went to the next logical step: Buying illegal street drugs.
A naturopath I went to when I was contemplating suicide recommended a plant called Kratom. At the time it was little known, and there was limited sources so I scoured the earth until I came to a middle eastern market and bought 100gr of the stuff for $50 (more than a month supply)
I went home and took it instead of the vicodins and felt immense relief. So much so it made me break into tears. The pain was incredibly diminished but the slow narcotic feeling poisoned was gone. I was able to walk and move without being sickly and disoriented or feelings of excruciating pain. In addition it intensely relieved the severe depression I had for years.
This plant as of the 30th is being banned and made Schedule I. As a result I am being forced to get off of this indxpensive herb and buy street drugs again or go back to the same doctors who got me hooked.
I beg of you to please email or contact the DEA and local politicians. This will destroy me and make me dead broke again and suicidal just when my life was making a turn for the better.
Please help me and be aware of what is happening and read other accounts
This is going to fuck SO MANY millions of people like me and I barely get involved in politics but this is the line for me atleast.
Send emails, sign the petitions. ANYTHING you can. Even if you dont think it will help.
This is a matter of a normal life or being severely sick for many of us. Please just spend a few minutes typing up an email or educating people on twitter or anything.
Xavier Fisher
I don't give a single shit about your story, but banning plants is retarded.
Are they going to sue mother nature to making them?
This. I feel sorry the pharma jews screwed everyone again. Kraton was used by recovering addicts or people who couldn't afford pain meds.
There's been no OD's from Kraton however the DEA banned it, due to hurting many industries.
Jason Williams
Bump
Gas the drug kikes
Isaac Sullivan
Jews just wanna have fun. Fun. Fun. Fun.
Juan Sullivan
Funny that Sup Forums supports Kratom but hated degenerate weed users.
Eli Robinson
>Nothing we can do to stop it.
It's almost as if Public Edjewcation forgets to teach American's their own history...
>simply a coincidence
Wyatt Cox
Signed, faggot.
God bless.
Blake Adams
find out where your local DEA office is and lay an ambush with IEDs
Theyre robots anyway, they wont feel a thing
Nathaniel Cruz
Anything the Mainstream Liberal Agenda supports we can instantly distrust. Jews.
Oliver Foster
>n-noy goy, there is nothing you can do! J-just give up!
Carter Jones
what the hell is with the shilling
Benjamin Barnes
Shilling!? Are you kidding me?
Im doing this because I have to and I am very afraid of what will happen when this is taken away from me.
Its a matter of being mobile and productive or sick and broke.
John Garcia
making kratom illegal is complete bullshit
Grayson Green
what is this?
Christopher Smith
what shilling? i couldnt care less about O.P. or his petition but if Jews are banning something i want to laugh at the dissidents
Brody Richardson
>This is going to fuck SO MANY millions of people like me and I barely get involved in politics but this is the line for me atleast.
You have to get involved before they come after the thing you love.
How many times did you sit silent when the government restricted or banned things?
Now, they have finally gotten to your coveted thing.
Now the government will make you a felon for something that was legal a month ago.
I am truly sorry for your plight, OP (really), but people have to get involved in stopping government encroachment on every issue even if it does not effect the individual. Eventually , they will get to something you love.
Ayden Turner
Move to a non-faggot country. There are plenty of places in the world that don't treat people like children.
Elijah Stewart
youve got two options, op. Kill yourself or kill the heads of pharmaceutical agencies
Luis Parker
Not everyone on Sup Forums is an Islamist in waiting. Considering many parts of the country are in crisis over heroin addiction partial brought on by the wide availability of opiate pain pills the last thing we should be doing is banning an all natural remedy that has the potential to help with both pain and heroin addiction simply because it could be dangerous. Keeping it legal is just good for society. Also fuck big pharma.
Leo Smith
I just wonder if anything could realistically be done. There are 0 examples of a chemical going to the Schedule 1 graveyard and coming back for medicinal/recreational use.
Andrew Wright
And where would I go exactly? I domt have any papers in order or know about any culture or language but my own.
I fear the former but they certainly deserve the latter
It isn't illegal yet till the 30th.
Noah Perez
interestingly enough thats also when they shut down the internet
Austin Sullivan
its a shill thread, i dont care what the subject is, but its annoying to get these people constantly trying to manipulate discourse generate interest or sell their shit. i like having honest discussion or even just shitposting but im sick of dealing with activists and salesmen
Joseph Long
DEA - what a bunch of faggots. the government not only is useless, but completely harmful to those it claims to protect.
Order the seeds for the Kratom plant/tree before it is illegal.
Figure out how to grow it where you live for your personal use.
Julian Bailey
Try reddit.
Dylan Brooks
>if Jews are banning something i want to laugh at the dissidents
>what shilling? i couldnt care less
Joseph Gomez
Well there's weed kinda. Realistically they'll probably ban it but you never know. The ATF tried to pull similar bullshit with green tip surplus ammo and backed down in the face of wide public outcry.
Logan King
Cool psyops bro. You rooskies sure are persistent. I'm sure you'd love to have us all on krokodil if you could.
Kevin Price
think before you post Jew
Asher Walker
reading comprehension, user
learn it
Jaxson Thomas
the DEA is just creating another black market that they and the CIA can use for more black budget income since duerte is killing off CIA assets in flipland
Levi Young
You're painfully obvious. We do actually see through some of the stuff you guys do, believe it or not.
Charles Powell
official jew networks reporting on it >paranoid
Xavier Martinez
Maybe go to your doctor and tell him that story, and try to get on medical marijuana.
Landon Mitchell
Just buy it off the darknet like the rest of 420chan do with heroin.
Jack Jones
I got some of Moon's Kratom, and it worked for awhile, but that shit was gross. The amount you have a choke down in order to feel the effects should be penalty enough. I'm about to just say fuck the police and start growing marijuana in my back yard, seeing as how the government is more interested in protecting big pharmaceutical companies who would lose billions if these plants were legal.
Grayson Baker
Krokodil ≠ Kratom
They are two completely different substances.
Please stop proving the American education meme correct.
Like I said:
>reading comprehension >learn it
Michael Bennett
Fuck the Bolice
Austin Cruz
he doesnt know theyre shutting it down
Robert Sullivan
my story is the same as yours. signed and i will tell all of my friends
Evan Myers
Signed it
Making plants illegal is gay
Jack Peterson
They can't shut down shit.
Austin Brooks
You have to get the quality organic stuff. Too late now haha. Good luck finding anywhere with any left. I tried.
Plus I honestly don't want to break any laws. But this is desperate.
I already have that as an option and I didn't like the way it made me feel.
Luis Johnson
at least my image was relevant
Elijah Diaz
This.
Brayden Jones
eat shit junkie scumfuck
Brody Miller
>This plant as of the 30th is being banned and made Schedule I. As a result I am being forced to get off of this inexpensive herb and buy street drugs again Exactly. Kratom could have put a real dent into the bottom line of the prison industrial complex...I mean criminal justice system since it not only does what it did for you it can help break real addiction to heroin and the CIA is loving all the money it's making off of the dope coming out of Afghanistan. They haven't been this flush since Vietnam and the golden triad pushed drugs into American viens?
Elijah Gomez
this is the part where i laugh at u op ahahahahaha get shilled
Christian Robinson
Wow really dissolved my opinion
Elijah Hill
I mostly signed it because as a gun owner I understand how the government loves to stick its dick in places where is doesn't belong.
Fuck the feds.
David Gray
i bet all the kratom is grown in the phillipines
Landon Thomas
that's some high school pseudo-philosophical shit right there m8
Lincoln Perry
why is it any time someone posts something you don't like you call them shills? Kratom taste like SHITTT it took me a while to learn to get it down. if i had to go through all that just to get high i wouldn't of even wasted my time. kratom has helped me get off pain killers and helped my depression. thats why im signing it. why should you sign it? because its a plant and the only reason the government wants to ban it is because they want you to buy their medication. thats it. i dont smoke weed or drink alcohol. kratom is the only thing i take, and if you want to call it a drug and ban it. then we should also ban coffee. kratom gets you "high" the same as coffee gets you high.
Isaiah Hill
It's a really dick move. 30 days notice and then schedule one, which means possession in moderate quantities will be a swat team busting through your windows.
They give you a month notice and then make something a higher schedule than cocaine.
Alexander Bell
because banning things is the thing the jew do to jew the poo, the poo, that is you, America.
Samuel Cox
Sorry to hear OP. The DEA is fucking scum and I wish they were all dead and rotting in hell.
If I were you, I'd get a shitload before then
Nolan Morris
OP, have you tried the faggots at "vice?" so long as you don't tell them you come here and claim to be gay or trans-something, they might run a story and they seem to have the Jew's ear.
One of the saddest things about OP's story is that the state just expects him to die. He's a human resource and his employers and government know it. When his usefulness ceased, he was thrust into his current situation, where the only options are poverty, death, or degeneracy.
This is America, folks :(
Sebastian Allen
Whites uniting as a Community helping every member and killing the brain damaged, is a Communist idea. Jew knows best for you Goyim.
Thomas Ward
Remember that time alcohol was banned? If didn't know it was banned, and/or you don't know how it became unbanned, then you can probably thank those suit wearing heavily armed fellas for fixing that for you.
Jordan Moore
It's grown in Indonesia my man. It's outlawed in Magaysia and is currently on consideration for being decriminalized in Thailand.
Aiden Baker
Start growing it man!!
James Morris
its Chosen dirt he doesn't own it!!!
Evan Martinez
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Mason Jones
>shutting down a hydra
you know hercules was a mythical character, right?
Jordan Green
you know one fell swoop can cut all the heads off right
Adrian Wood
Emigrate. Move somewhere that allows you to continue Kratom. And fuck the DEA.
Austin Hughes
Idiot, there is no "narcotic sickness" difference between kratom and traditional μ-opioid agonists.
Mitragynine has essentially the same MOA as heroin hippy.
Get lost
Jacob Rivera
yeah get lost op kill yourself slowly in a tub of condiments
Christian Ortiz
But thats completely wrong. Learn your shit. Plus thats completely irrelevant....
It is proven and there are millions who can challenge what you just said along with many studies on the subject.
However that doesnt matter because the DEA has no right to hurt people like this, sending them running to illegal narcotics and doctor prescription pads (into poverty)
Ayden Rogers
poverty truly a fate worse than death
Hunter Miller
There are several examples. Most notable tfmPP, which is a terrible terrible chemical, but the DEA took it off schedule 1 after a 2 year review.
My condolences for those who will face withdrawal.
David Watson
Let me tell you about microwave radiation and it's effects on the human body
Connor Johnson
>87907333 Mitragynine alone, maybe. But Kratom has dozens of alkaloids, each with their own unique pharmacological properties. Kratom itself acts as both an opiate agonist AND antagonist. In addition, unlike traditional pharmaceutical pain killers, kratom acts on kappa opioid receptors, similar to ketamine. Consider as well that ketamine has shown such promising effects in the treatment of depression, that the FDA has approved it for prescription treatment. The action on kappa-opioid receptors may be one of the factors that contributes to kratom's anti-depressant qualities.
Ian Perez
Heya OP, it's Jew from the office down the hall It's good to see you buddy, how've you been? Things have been OK for me except that I'm a Jew now I really wish you'd let us in I think I speak for all of us when I say I understand Why you folks might hesitate to submit to our demand But here's an FYI: you're all gonna die screaming
All we want to do is Jew your brains We're not unreasonable, I mean, no one's gonna Jew your eyes All we want to do is Jew your brains We're at an impasse here, maybe we should compromise: If you open up the doors We'll all come inside and Jew your brains
I don't want to nitpick, OP, but is this really your plan? Spend your whole life locked inside .Gov? Maybe that's OK for now but someday you'll be out of food and guns And you'll have to make the call I'm not surprised to see you haven't thought it through enough You never had the head for all that bigger Chosen stuff But OP, that's what Jew do, and Jew plan on Jewing you slowly
All we want to do is Jew your brains We're not unreasonable, I mean no one's gonna Jew your eyes All we want to do is Jew your brains We're at an impasse here, maybe we should compromise: If you open up the doors We'll all come inside and Jew your brains
I'd like to help you OP, in any way I can I sure appreciate the way you're working with me I'm not a hedonist OP, well, technically I am I guess I am
I've got another meeting OP maybe we could wrap it up I know we'll get to common ground somehow Meanwhile I'll report back to my Jews who were chewing on the doors I guess we'll shut it down for now I'm glad to see you take constructive criticism well Thank you for your time I know we're all busy as Hell And we'll put this thing to bed When I bash your head open
All we want to do is Jew your brains We're not unreasonable, I mean, no one's gonna Jew your eyes All we want to do is eat your brains We're at an impasse here, maybe we should compromise: If you open up the doors We'll all come inside and Shut It Down!
Bentley Martin
What the fuck did you even just say. It's simple fucking MOA and pharmacokinetics.
The active agonists in Kratom have IDENTICAL mechanisms of receptor action to traditional opiates.
" there are millions who can challenge what you just said along with many studies on the subject."
Both heroin and Kratoms main agonists act directly on mu opioid receptors, literally identical MOA's. There isn't a pharmacist on earth who would try and argue against that.
Like i said, off yourself hippy
Luke Rogers
And this is coming from someone with extensive experience using both substances.
The law isn't stupid, they recognize you're essentially asking them to legalize plant form heroin. Just because your hippy mindset tells you on some uneducated subconscious level that "it's all natural man!" doesn't translate in any way into chemical mechanics.
off yourself
Matthew Bell
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Logan Ross
>I assume everyone has the same experiences I do
I use mine because I have to not because I want to. And its a safer alternative to street drugs and pharmas which allows me to be productive.
I could care less what deluded individuals like yourselves want daddy government to do for you.
some of us use it for pain, severe pain, and severe addictions which kratom has greatly assisted in. Many normal functional adults lead healthy lives whilst using kratom. I cannot go back onto prescription painkillers despite you claiming them to "be the same" because they simply cause me to be sick and unmotivated. Why? Who knows.
>The active agonists in Kratom have IDENTICAL mechanisms of receptor action to traditional opiates.
Well, that's only partially true. As I stated before, there are dozens of alkaloids in kratom, and mitragynine, while being the most prevalent, is only 2% of the alkaloid content in kratom. There are antagonists acting to block receptor mediated pain relief as well. Do you understand what that means? Let me know if you don't.
>Both heroin and Kratoms main agonists act directly on mu opioid receptors, literally identical MOA's. There isn't a pharmacist on earth who would try and argue against that.
Again, untrue. The MOA's are not identical for mitragynine and heroin. Mitragynine has less affinity for mu opioid receptors than heroin. In addition, as stated above, there are antagonists and alkaloids with affinity for kappa receptors as well.
You seem like the type of person who reads a wikipedia article and thinks they know everything. You're arguing against someone who does this for a living.
Ian Sullivan
Oh look it's another episode of >unelected bureaucrats making rules, enforced as laws, to justify their continued existence
Democracy is a lie.
Connor Williams
Yes and the more potent Kratom has a higher amount of agonists in relation to antagonists.
and if you'd do the research yourself you'd see the antagonist IN kratom isn't in all strains of it, thats why you see such varying accounts of kratom being so hit or miss, but believe me the other slew of alkaloids are irrelevant when you get a plant that has enough MU agonism in it to punch through everything else, and in that event it is literally plant form heroin.
Identical mechanism of action, and if OP received "GREAT RELEIF" from said plant,as a fucking opioid addict, beleive fucking me it was the MU agonism that did it.
Case in fucking point
Dominic Torres
I HAVE HEARD OF KRATOM TOO
(((THEY))) ARE BANNING THE DRUG ON THE SAME DAY OBAMA GIVES UP US CONTROL OF THE INTERNET
ITS FUCKING HAPPENING AND WE NEED TO SHILL THIS MORE THAN TRUMP RIGHT NOW
TRUMP WILL WIN THE ELECTION ON HIS OWN
FOR SEPTEMBER WE NEED TO STOP THESE 2 THINGS FROM HAPPENING
SOUND THE ALARM
MOBILIZE THE PATH OF LIGHT
Noah Robinson
Yes affinities and activity at different receptors etc, but all of that is irrelevant as it pertains to OP's point.
The relief he sought was from MU activity. The core mechanism is SIMILAR ENOUGH to heroin to make it basically a full comparison.
Cute wikipedia quip tho bud
Leo Hernandez
I don't think you understood OPs point at all. Prescribed narcotics led him to a life of suicidal thoughts. Kratom gave him the freedom to feel normal without facing an escalating tolerance and lethargy associated with narcotic pain killers
People like you are exactly why we can't have uninformed bureaucrats making decisions about people's personal health.
Isaac Myers
>My condolences It might be condolences for you if someone goes apeshit from DT and robs a pharmacy and kills you or someone close to you.
The Us is a nation that needs opiates to function, like it or not. These people aren't going to just fuck off and die, that libertarian mode doesn't work when you have to actually live in a society.
Colton Hill
>The core mechanism is SIMILAR ENOUGH to heroin to make it basically a full comparison. heroin is synthetically altered to make it as it, and problems from heroin come from injecting/snorting, which is not an issue here.
Taken orally, heroin wouldn't have the absorption rate to even be worth producing. Can always tell the pharmacy students who couldn't get into med school.
blame the Jew, not normal people.
Carson Sullivan
Well I assume Kratom has a much lower binding affinity at the mu receptor though.
Logan Foster
why don't you just get the kratom illegally?
never stopped anyone from buying weed
you'll be fine OP relax
William Nelson
the people who use it tend to be old people with cancer or MS type shit or autistic people who need for anxiety.
It doesn't grow nearly as easily as weed and the FEDs are making it a schedule 1, which now makes old grandmothers who use this shit susceptible to SWAT teams breaking in with weapons drawn.
The Jew has again over-poked a sleeping bear rather than just letting things be.
