What went so horribly, horribly wrong Sup Forums?

What went so horribly, horribly wrong Sup Forums?

everything that wasn't fassbender's acting, including his motivations and storyline

Ridley Scott has gone senile in recent years, then they gave him creative control.

The exited their ship onto an unexplored alien planet with no space suits

They let Ridley Scott direct it.

didn't give a fuck about the crew. Laughed when they were being killed off..

too much to even list but the final 30 minutes or so made me want to start laughing maniacally in the kinoplex

the best part was purposely making the crew big enough that they had some literally whos for the entire movie that didn't go down to the planet but were still around to be cannon fodder for the mini alien remake they did on the mothership

The plot is genuinely retarded and their decision too explaining the lore is also ruining it
Characters are uninteresting
It didn't knew whether wanting to be a scifi horror like Alien or an action scifi like Aliens. It's almost like Scott trying to make his own Aliens

dis

Scott.
Also inb4 someone defends it

Covenant is the ultimate pleb filter.

Katherine Waterston a shit

This. It was objectively a decent movie at the very worst but the autistic franchise fanbase is just angry that it isn't a generic space slasher film with HURR DURR SCARY BLACK ALIEN THING

Everyone hated Prometheus so we got a shitty Alien movie.

>that it isn't a generic space slasher film with HURR DURR SCARY BLACK ALIEN THING

did you stop watching half way through?

her character was written badly

On it's own sure it's great but it's not on it's own, it's part of a much larger set and the way things are going so far has the fanbase on edge as they should be. Prom and Cov were pretty bad Alien films and we've had arguably a couple already.

I think this movie would have been good if James Franco actually had a role and didn't get incinerated in the first two minutes

Alien is the Weezer of movie franchise

You mean:
>Everyone hated the shitty movie with the Engineers plot, so they decided to create a shitty movie with the Alien instead

This

Also too many aliens

The thing is A:C actually had potential if they explored the original purpose of prometheus in finding out their motivations for wanting to destroy humanity instead of david showing up and doing an orbital drop on their civilisation with the black nanogoo stuff

It was really clear that they were so affected by the backlash that they just got rid of the engineers entirely without explaining shit which was just lazy as fuck

There has never been a more predictable ending in the history of thriller kino

Entirely this

literally everything

He's become the new George Lucus

Did anyone have any doubt that David was the one who made it back to the ship?

Good actresses elevate shit writing and make you care for the character. Your waifu a shit.

I think they spent most of the budget on Fassbender playing two parts. Seemed to be much lower quality than Prometheus.

Plot holes, bad script and bad actors.
>why didn't they wear helmets when exploring a new planet?
>why didn't David just fly to Earth and use the black shit to kill everyone?
>why was Kenny Powers in this film?
>why were there eggs in Davids lab basement thing, did he develop a queen first?
>why did they feel the need to have a fight scene where Fassbender throws himself around like the incredible hulk?

>what's with all the bodies
>we accidentally genocided the whole planet while landing and she died too
>oh okay

>is it safe here David
>yes
>*alien gets into the building and kills a crew member*
>what's in the egg David is it safe
>look in it, it's safe

This movie was too fucking smart.

Ridley Scott is the biggest hack in the industry.

The movie was pretty tolerable up until they met David, then the movie went full retard.

The med bay scene was the only great scene in the whole movie though.

I liked it. The space exploration of Prometheus mixed with the horror of Alien.

The first hour, up until the exact moment david does his 'lol genocide' flashback was good. From that point on it was terrible and boring.

I still hope for a sequel. But someone else has to make it.

No, he just became senile and producers are using his name because of retards still believing in him after Robin Hood.

He caved under the pressure of people overreacting about how bad Prometheus was. Should have stuck to his original idea and just continue that series instead of getting all butt hurt and attempting to pander to the people who hated that movie.

It's funny how Prometheus is better than Covenant in every aspect. Even the Visuals. Nothing in Prometheus looks bad, The deacon looked amazing at the end and now years later, the aliens in Covenant looks terrible. Makes you wonder.

>the aliens in Covenant looks terrible
How does that make Covenant the uglier movie? Creature design is not the same as photography.

Same. Not sure what everyone else was expecting out of this after Prometheus got shit on.

Not the design, I was talking about the CGI LOOKED FUCKING TERRIBLE. I was mind blown. How does a movie that came out before that YOU worked on, somehow manage to look worse?

Well acted, well shot, well paced, just a meh story.
Entertaining enough to watch, but not worth watching again.

I personally thought the pacing was terrible. It all felt, like Ridley had no patients when it came to anything. IT HAS TO GO GO GO and never have any sort of buildup.

Fuck, we barley knew who was who and we're expected to care? Fuck man, give us at least 1 scene of just people bonding. Even Prometheus established the characters FAAAR better than this movie.

1) it was a frankenstein abortion of a movie. Ridley couldn't decide whether he wanted to make a sequel to Prometheus or a prequel to Alien, and so you have two basically have two plot threads awkwardly stitched together and the whole thing is completely discordant and tone-deaf.

2) No interesting characters. Ridley scott continues his circle-jerk over Fassbender's robo-shenanigans at the expense of any characterization of the actual crew of the ship. Everyone is just a characterless goon. For fucks sake, what little bit of humanization of the characters they had was put in a fucking extra scene on youtube rather than the movie itself. Both Alien and Aliens did a really good job giving personality to the characters. Covenant? Not at all.

3) Retreading all the beats of Alien 1 doesn't work. There isn't that mystery and fear of the unknown that made Alien special when it follows the same exact plot and the same twists occur. At that point it just becomes "I guess I'm just gonna watch this movie to see what ways the alien kills the crew members" because it's the same old, same old that we've already seen before. It doesn't help that the aliens were constantly shown fully exposed and in plain view, taking out any shred of mystery or suspense at all.

4) terrible pacing

>I personally thought the pacing was terrible. It all felt, like Ridley had no patients when it came to anything. IT HAS TO GO GO GO and never have any sort of buildup.

What's even worse, the pacing goes from 0 to 60 instantly when they go to the planet, but then in the next scene it goes back to very slow when they go with David and all that pseudo-intellectual meandering and flute-playing bullshit happens. They cranked it up to 11, and then go back to being slow and then crank it up to 11 again, etc. It's like Scott had a binary switch for the pacing, and there's never any buildup. Just instant switching on/of

I liked it but I know it's not a good movie. But I want Scott to make more and I'm definitely not on this ''he's gone senile''-bandwagon.

I think he's figured out how to be an efficient filmmaker in his twilight years, because he's churning out movies faster than foxconn produces smartphones. He should pay a little more attention to the scripts he gets to use. I don't know what Covenant's point exactly was, but he should've known that it was a mostly empty movie, especially coming after Prometheus, which, although wasn't perfect, was far more ambitious than the lukewarm story that got told herein.

The people shitting on Prometheus were Alien fanboys pissed off about their space jockey.

The same people they were trying to satisfy in this one. As expected, they only accomplished fucking every thing up.

Even if you ignore it being a prequel to the alien franchise, it's still a shit movie on its own accord

>I think he's figured out how to be an efficient filmmaker in his twilight years, because he's churning out movies faster than foxconn produces smartphones
There was that interview where he stated that he's trying to make as many movies as he can while he's still alive because he realised how old he is. Pretty much a "fuck I've been wasting my time for no reason".

For what purpose though? He doesn't need the money. And if it's a matter of legacy, all he's doing is ruining his legacy George-Lucas-style by pumping out dogshit movies instead of leaving on a high note.

Nope

Wasn't any shittier than Alien or Aliens.

The franchise is riddled with muh stupid people.

this

Not everyone thinks Scott's recent movies are dogshit, and the people who do are awful at articulating their criticism.

No one liked Prometheus being an alien prequel with no aliens in it, so Senile Scott decided to cave into fanboys and make it an alien movie crossed with a prometheus sequel, and it failed on so many levels because it didn't have enough interesting sci-fi to be a sci-fi film, it didn't have enough suspense to be a thrilling horror movie and it didn't have enough well done action to be an action movie.

If you honestly think that most of the people in ALIEN where stupid then you're retarded. Not only was there a synthetic ACTIVELY fucking with them, but they were under legal contract to go check shit out. Aside from a couple of oversights the crew was pretty smart about shit.

>Ripley didn't want to let them back onto the ship. >ANDROID GOES AGAINST HER COMMANDS

The only real wrong things the crew did was argue and fight with each other. They were pretty hostile towards each other because of how stressed they were about a fucking ALIEN being on board their ship killing each other. But either than that, they did the best they could as a fucking cargo crew.

you guys do understand that this whole franchise is terrible, right?
especially the first movie with its dull progression and cheap thrills.
Aliens is better but that's still action movie schlock.

>You do understand that...
Fuck off.

>

Alien fans will never be satisfied. If they just let Prometheus play out who knows what we might have gotten out of it. Instead we get Covenant which shoehorns the xeno in. I don't think either are absolutely terrible, but it's clear that massive changes were made to Covenant to appease fanboys.

I'm an alien fan and I liked Prometheus. There was obviously some pretty weird shit, like running straight. Even though I understand that the parts of the ship was falling on the sides of them, the execution of that scene really didn't work.

But yeah, I liked were it was going and I was excited to find out. Really sucks that they abandoned that movie because I actually waited years to find out what was going to happen next only for it to be thrown out in favor for a worse movie.

I thought it was way too obvious and they wouldn't do something so cliché. Silly me.

I hated prometheus for a number of reasons. The prometheus fanboys try to strawman all haters as just being idiots who wanted xenomorphs, when that's not my problem with the movie at all.

But regardless of what I think of that movie, the fact is that it exists. With that in mind, ridley should've either chosen to make a sequel to prometheus or a prequel to alien. Not both stitched together. And I think he should've learned from his mistakes with prometheus, improved on it, and made a true sequel to it instead of the half-assed garbage we got.

Everyone but Ripley is stupid. And the entire plot is dependent on that stupidity. It's Idiot Plot in its raw form.

Just keep fanwanking, kiddo.

So what was your problem with it?

Focus on the origin of the space jockey and aliens, which no one ever wanted, and even if they did, the explanation here is ridiculous.

Uninteresting characters, not only that, but they are also dumbed down to the level of teens in a slasher movie.

Fassbender's portrayal of the android(s) is the one redeeming factor, but not even that can help these terrible movies.

Kek, you're a funny man Sully, way too funny.

The one guy who I thought had some characterization was the not captain who retardedly looked into the egg. I thought the part about him saying the whoever sees him as a loon and won't make him captain because he believes in God was interesting.

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The Bonus situation wasn't resolved.

Interesting concept. Poor execution, writing, characterizations, etc. Enough has been written on why Prometheus's narrative fails, so I'm not going to retread it for the millionth time, just as I don't feel any need to defend my assertion that the Star Wars prequels are shit.

lel, that fucking guy. Not really. It's like Ridley just bolted on some bullshit about "lol you have faith!" because that was something mentioned in prometheus or whatever. It was the most laughably hamfisted shit I've ever seen.