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There is no blue square, if you want to ban tons of shit guess how you have to pay for it.

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contributing

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>tfw no work

>tfw djustisss

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youtube.com/watch?v=SrDSqODtEFM

With taxes? There's nothing contradictory about having fucking taxes in a free market environment.

bow to porky

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>Losers of the world unite

Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other system.
Marxism has directly killed hundreds of millions of people.

retarded cunt

>Murkia
>left wing

I love these, do you have the Sam Hyde version?

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Am I Ron Paul enough?

You're literally me

Better image

Let us build an economic empire together!

C-can I join?

I gib u pizza

Where do you stand?

Mussolini is too far on the right but again he shifted position so many times during his lifetime that you should have multiple markings on the graphic for each period of his life

Thanks Reddit.

right were you are

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my fucking sides

Thomas Paine was a socialist.

Then you can join, Ginny

>capitalism dindu nuffin
>he hasn't heard of what neoliberalism and capitalism are doing to the third world
>he doesn't know that the USSR and Eastern Bloc improved living standards drastically
Also,
youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg

Pls. I want join

I gib u tea

>naked holding a dollar
every fucking time

It kills me how I can't share this humor with anyone but you guys.

Reminder that if you're in the red or blue you're a bootlicking retard faggot

green square can only exist in human imagination, also jesus would not be left economically he said nothing about mandatory payments

>this fucking meme

Why don't you go read some Paine you little shit. He supported social programs but supported Adam Smith's economic views and was very pro-free trade

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Now we are getting too much people in the board of directors...

Prove you're not a fascist, commie, libtard or anarchist (the wrong kind)

He also supported the idea that workers reap the fruits of their own labor.
thomaspaine.org/aboutpaine/was-thomas-paine-a-socialist.html

I am exactly where Ron Paul is on here

Every fucking time

why is hitler seen as right wing?

This compass is narrative driven and complete bullshit.

Did I honestly have to tell you that, or did you just want a conversation?

SPBP

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Propaganda driven by the USSR. Also why major parts of the middle east and Africa hate the USA

I mean technically, everything is "right wing" to them, so it's accurate

>Jesus was leftwing
This meme needs to die.

i was legitimately wondering
people still say he was even though he had massive public projects, nationalized industries, and some other left wing shit I forgot about
but I was talking to someone and they still said he believed in some private ownership so therefore he is right wing
it was pretty crazy shit

I've also heard he practiced Keynesian economics which are pretty left wing but people refuse to say he was left

>I have never had a job

>workers of the world unite

The dichotomy is mutable when expressed and fractured in practice. None of this is effective, which is why we mock it. An example would be "centrist" is different depending on the point in history you're studying.

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>le green square doesn't exist meme
ebin

>that's why much of the third world hates the USA
Or maybe it's because we bomb the shit out of their countries, support jackass dictators, cause wars, and enact terrible neoliberal policies, then insist that it's their fault for not working hard enough.

>i don't want government to exist but I want people to give me free shit
green square doesn't exist, m80. It's time you got over that

We bomb them because they hate us. Not the other way around.

>le disagreement is a meme meme

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>antifa
>libertarian
LMAO
If you're a sandnigger maybe.

Got this one

>doesn't want government to exist
Not true at all. Most green square figures still believe in government.
>free shit
Also not necessarily true. They just believe in more social services, and some believe in more collectivization.

>one individual decides to say no
That's me.

Don't just tell people they're wrong. Define it.

Write up a greentext constitution that creates (your version of) a left libertarian society.

>Not true at all. Most green square figures still believe in government.
Okay. How about this?
>wants government to be limited
>except when being offered free shit

>Also not necessarily true. They just believe in more social services, and some believe in more collectivization.
>social services
Did you earn those services? Did you buy it? Did you do anything to deserve it? If not. It's free shit
>collectivization
Did you do anything to earn a collective piece? If not... guess what? Free shit

When we invaded Cambodia and bombed them into the Stone Age, killing at least hundreds of thousands, destroying the country's infrastructure, and paving the way for the rise of Pol Pot, was it because the Cambodians were going to attack us?
When we went into Iraq and killed possibly a million people, was it because Iraq was going to invade us?
When we installed Suharto in Indonesia, setting the stage for the genocidal slaughter of millions, a brutal invasion of East Timor, and the theft of dozens of billions of dollars, was it because Indonesia under the previous government was going to invade us?
When we set up Operation Condor, installing multiple hideously violent regimes that brutally tortured, murdered, and exiled hundreds of thousands (possibly more), was it because we were going to be invaded?
When we supported the Duvaliers when they killed tens of thousands of Haitians and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars, was it because the previous government of Haiti was threatening us?
When we bombed the Korean Peninsula, killing approximately 20% of the North Korean population, was it because North Korea was going to invade us?

Don't let him dodge this post like a coward

>mfw when i personally think enlightened monarchies are the superior form of government
discuss with me please.

>Pinochet more authoritharian than Hitler
lol k

Adds up

I'm not a politician or a political scientist. I'm not qualified to do that, but I definitely would include most elements of the US Constitution, though I would obviously remove the allowance of slavery and would (in interpretation) extend economic rights to all working people rather than the elite.

What's wrong with a government that provides "le free shit" but is otherwise limited? Is any government with social services and public spending supposed to magically require a GULAG system and police state?
Social services are earned by citizens because they pay taxes.
>collective property
Those who own it earned it by working on it.

>antifa
>libertarian

>I'm not qualified to do that
So you're not qualified to vote. No single philosopher would ever say he's not qualified to study political theory. Approaching the world with your ignorance is dangerous.

This is where Christopher Hitchens undoes the hard-left with his case against Mother Teresa. She, like the left, sustains an artificial mediocrity. Low functioning slaves so far from independence as to need perpetual aid. The Controlling corporatist war-hawks then utilize these desperate people for their own purposes, a downward spiral of liberty.

Everyone who can afford more than base necessities are taxed to the point that all they have are base necessities and whatever social programs that everyone else gets. There's no real freedom in what products you own.

I can only see it working for artists and other creatives who do it for the art. Though if they require more paper, pencils, or harddrive space than average they'd be out of luck.

consider suicide

>I'm only a couple boxes to the right of Jesus

Awesome

stalin is further to the right. castro is further to the right. both of those people oppressed gays/supported tradtional families

I think I'm in the neighborhood of Jesus.

first time seeing a political compass?

soooo... A1 is actually supposed to be in the J1 space....

Why is Sup Forums far upper right and yet pretend they love and follow Jesus? All the liberals they hate appear to be closer to Jesus than they ever could. Do they just use "Christianity" to further their agenda?

monopoly man it going to be next to that 3rd reich swastika. look up "IBM and the holocaust"

>What's wrong with a government that provides "le free shit" but is otherwise limited? Is any government with social services and public spending supposed to magically require a GULAG system and police state?
Sure

The question that boils the green square meme alive is "How do you pay for such a system?"

The obvious answer is taxes. But what do you do when I don't pay my taxes? That, by itself, requires many levels of legislative processes. There's also a level of taxation. A country with a 5% income tax is obviously more libertarian (or at least limited government) than a country with a 50% income tax. Why? Well the country is responsible for more money, and hence not limited.

>Social services are earned by citizens because they pay taxes.

>I pay $1,000 in taxes
>I use up $10,000 in social services
>net gain of $9,000 in free shit
I mean, that IS the point of social services, right? Otherwise what is the difference between having social services and the freemarket approach?

>Those who own it earned it by working on it.

>I hire you as a employee for a certain dollars per hour
>after a month you request to have ownership in the company
>I tell you to go fuck yourself and go back to work or else I fire you
What then?

hey guess what

history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-signs-agreement-with-soviet-union

Threadly reminder that if you're in the upper half of the chart you need to commit suicide

libertarian was originally a word used in europe connotating leftist anarchism. libertarian socialism is a thing. look it up.

alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda

also keep in mind that "liberal" doesn't actually mean leftist either. liberals are right of center laissez faire capitalists, and they use identity politics to divide people along lines of alienated labor

is this good?

You're literally hitler

I hate to break this to you man, but I think you're probably wearing the pinwheel hat

>middle east
>hating the guy who killed jews

nice.

>When we invaded Cambodia and bombed them into the Stone Age, killing at least hundreds of thousands, destroying the country's infrastructure, and paving the way for the rise of Pol Pot, was it because the Cambodians were going to attack us?
yes
>When we went into Iraq and killed possibly a million people, was it because Iraq was going to invade us?
yes
>When we installed Suharto in Indonesia, setting the stage for the genocidal slaughter of millions, a brutal invasion of East Timor, and the theft of dozens of billions of dollars, was it because Indonesia under the previous government was going to invade us?
yes
>When we set up Operation Condor, installing multiple hideously violent regimes that brutally tortured, murdered, and exiled hundreds of thousands (possibly more), was it because we were going to be invaded?
yes
>When we bombed the Korean Peninsula, killing approximately 20% of the North Korean population, was it because North Korea was going to invade us?
yes

Any questions?

I aspire to be as strong some day

Seinfeld is a show about kikes living in jew york.

They're all jews and act jewy.

I love the helicopter meme, does anyone have more?

>mfw I don't even know

I do.

Oh hey.