Season 1:
>I'm a selfish asshole with realistic motivations
Season 2:
>I'm accepting what I've done and i'm trying to move on with my life.
Season 3:
>I want to destigmatize abortion
>Abortion is scary for the mother.
>lmao white men amirite?
>Men shouldn't be allowed to comment on women's issues
>Muh-son-gen-y
>Hey look how gay I am
How did such a solid show fall so fucking fast?
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Do you even have to ask?
im on season 2. Does it actually go full SJW?
I really do like this show, I just hope it doesnt get too awful.
Season 4 is great
Kill yourself.
S4 is also the best season, by the way.
It makes fun of SJWs more than sides with them
(again) Hilarious that some people here were surprised when a Netflix show made for and by insulated coastal hipsters turned liberal. What the fuck did you expect.
I hate that fucked comic strip. It's such an effective trolling mechanism.
I think the biggest influence on this show was WTF with marc maron. Its as if a writer heard a few of Maron's podcasts and said 'how do I make this into a series?'
I have to give this show credit, it certainly handles something like depression in a much more mature way than other shows *cough*Rick and morty*cough*.
How is it trolling when there are a hundred threads a day complaining about liberalism in Netflix shows?
I still remember once I was over at a friend and he watched netflix, an episode of this very show. it was so fucking boring. I dont get what people like about it. I guess you need american "humor"
t. still a teenager
No, OP is just a redditor who is used to watching reddit and maymay. Season 4 has some of the best episodes of the entire show.
You talk like a fag
no thanks, Im not interested in you
They live in Commiefornia, of course they have to talk about this issues. They're actors and hipsters, it would be unrealistic (a talking horse!) to have them be conservatives.
Besides the abortion episode was fair. Although I'll agree the other feminist episodes are preachy as fuck.
Talking is easier when the dick is not lodged in your mouth my dear boy.
yeah, nobody on this site isn't a teenager.
But I feel like Bojack does a really good job at capturing the feeling of being an /r9k/ loser.
I just started the show today. Is it just straight up feminist propaganda? Does it at least try to be reasonable? I know the Diane character casually mentions she's a feminist.
God, Bojack is so shitty.
And I don't mean it's a bad show or that it's poorly written, Bojack is just a piece of shit.
>I like this girl
>this girl is clearly interested in someone else
>I could act like a mature adult and just move on with my life
>or I could just kiss her and make everything extremely awkward.
Bojack is literally /r9k/ incarnate.
You will like this show if you are at least in your 20s and are not completely retarded.
Op is exaggerating, its surprisingly balanced in how it portrays political issues and even shits on the direction liberal culture is going in hilarious ways
>hahaha dude let's just ignore the fact that the majority of feminists are fucking awful people because now it's popular to hate them. And remember: Popular = bad!
In his defence when you're drunk and depressed all the time it makes you do rash things like that and regret it
Lets also ignore the fact that there's barely any feminist content in the show unless you're going out of your way looking for things to be offended about.
that's literally all I was asking until you sperged out. Thanks.
>lmao white men amirite?
>Muh-son-gen-y
>Hey look how gay I am
I don't remember these at all. The rest of your list is from a single episode that still made fun of both sides.
I thought the gun episode was pretty funny. I mean they went for the dude misogyny lmao conclusion but it wasn't any worse than the south park queef episode
are women allowed to comment on men's issues?
>I don't remember these at all
There was an entire episode on gun rights where heeeelariolusly archetypal white men in top hats couldn't deal with women carrying so they banned guns altogether. SJWiane ends the episode with something like "Ugh, I can't believe this country hates us womyns more than it loves guns" or some shit like that
>I HOPE MY FETUS has a soul so it can feel pain when i eject it from my hole
>those coat hanger starships blowing up the space baby from 2001
yeah, he's really not exaggerating actually.
entirely wrong season myfam
>Bring your pre-pubescent daughters who are just beginning to be cognizant of a woman’s role in the world. They won’t internalize deeply problematic notions about the commodification of sexuality in today’s society. What are you talking about? It’s just whales!
What did they mean by this?
blegh...
I like this show but...ugh...
sounds like you are buttpained because I spoke the truth
No, I'm buttpained by the kickback from pounding you're mom all night long, lmao.
Whatever you think about that episode that song and music video was kino
yeah, you probably would have a sore ass from that, wouldn't you?
Would you let your wife take your kid to a gay strip bar?
This show is very apolitical, if you get triggered by it you probably can't leave your house
ahh so you like it up your ass
Season 4 on the other hand....
Yeah, I don't mind getting pegged. What's it to you buddy?
Princess Highground?
Yes
>triggered rubes can't tell the show is constantly shitting on Diane
Diane is constantly exposed as a fraud whose actions don't live up to her ideals. She lives in wealth and rarely sticks to a cause or enters it for the wrong reasons, usually trying to give her life meaning or purpose. Then in s2 she goes to cordovia to help the oprhans only for shit to be too real and she falls into a depressive funk for the rest of season 2 and takes a job as mindless social media manager season 3. Even s4 she never actually stands up to her beliefs to leave PB and the comfort of their home
Girl Crush shits on Jezebel/Huff Post/BuzzFeed feminist blogging
couldnt even finish season 2
just be glad we got 1 good season
Why are you paying attention to anything other than the self loathing and oh my God I want to die.
because I dont want to support liberal propaganda?
>Diane is constantly exposed as a fraud whose actions don't live up to her ideals
No she's not. She's literally a Mary Sue.
You're a brainlet
she never does anything wrong. She's the straight man to Bojack.
With the flashback episodes and Bojack actually coming out okay while everyone else is miserable even without his influence, I thought this season was pretty great. Also I'm not a hypersensitive contrarian who feels personally attacked by everything politically left of Sup Forums
>pusses out of war journalism and hides her shame by getting hammered at Bojack's
>works for a Salon/Jezebel/Buzzfeed blog that is depicted as vapid and hypocritical
>has more than once sobbed to Bojack about how much of a self-loathing hypocrite she is
>her marriage is falling apart even though Mr. Peanutbutter dotes on her
Have you even seen the show?
What's your favorite craft beer?
Old Rasputin, thank you for asking.
Impressive, very nice.
Woah a Jew is pushing propaganda through Hollywood, this plot is getting a little tiresome
I never understood the association with hipsters and craft beer. The majority of beer geeks I know are middle-aged guys with guts and bushy beards.
Someone spent time to make that and its not even funny.
Sounds like you lose either way
>Season 1:
>I'm really depressed can you relate to that? And also I don't really have a pressing reason to be depressed, I bet you can relate to that too, huh? One last thing, I'm the same age as your parents and I remember the 80's and 90's like your parents. Isn't that fucking rad and retro? Hell, I bet it lets you pretend your personal brand of young person angst is universal across generations. How justified!
>Season 2:
>I'm really depressed can you relate to that? And also I don't really have a pressing reason to be depressed, I bet you can relate to that too, huh? One last thing, I'm the same age as your parents and I remember the 80's and 90's like your parents. Isn't that fucking rad and retro? Hell, I bet it lets you pretend your personal brand of young person angst is universal across generations. How justified!
>I wallow in justified self pity!
>Season 3:
>I'm really depressed can you relate to that? And also I don't really have a pressing reason to be depressed, I bet you can relate to that too, huh? One last thing, I'm the same age as your parents and I remember the 80's and 90's like your parents. Isn't that fucking rad and retro? Hell, I bet it lets you pretend your personal brand of young person angst is universal across generations. How justified!
>Oh, wow. Yeah my depression and subsequent doing of nothing is totally "justified". This must be the correct mindset of a smart person.
>lso I don't really have a pressing reason to be depressed
Why does it specifically have to be pressing?
His parents abused him, he acts like a fucking idiot to the people he cares for, he's past his prime, and he's an alcoholic. I'd say that' a pretty good reason to hate your life.
this show makes me kinda sad.
Financially.
Angsty teens have reasons their depression and subsequent wallowing are justified too.
>HAHAHAHAHA ANGST
fuck off.
Huh? Where's your argument? I cannot even tell what you're trying to imply. You don't like that word?
it's perfectly fine to be angsty and depressed, for whatever reason, but when you let it effect your life in such a way that it defines you, your interactions, your career and the stability of your mind is when it becomes cancerous.
This is a big problem in America. The idea that if you aren't depressed you aren't aware. Thay if you are depressed it must inhibit your daily functions or else it's not real or earned.
This show makes that problem worse by telling viewers their depression is universal, justified and above all else something to be catered to.
>Huh? Where's your argument? I cannot even tell what you're trying to imply. You don't like that word?
Because this show is the exact opposite of teenage angst. It has extremely relatable issues that the characters suffer through. To call it angsty is extremely lazy and removes the entire context of why the characters feel the way they do.
>This is a big problem in America. The idea that if you aren't depressed you aren't aware. Thay if you are depressed it must inhibit your daily functions or else it's not real or earned.
What the actual fuck are you talking about?
I can agree that our society is somewhat romanticizing things like depression and mental illness but if you are depressed it literally ruins your day to day function. Society isn't telling people this, it's just something people have naturally felt throughout history. Probably because life fucking sucks.
>This show makes that problem worse by telling viewers their depression is universal, justified and above all else something to be catered to.
It's not telling them that THEIR depression is universal. It's saying that depression in general is universal. Again, because life fucking sucks nowadays. Also in Bojacks case, like I stated earlier, his depression is completely justified. He has every reason in the world to be sad.
>and be catered to
Okay, so you're just trying to be edgy now. Got it.
People let depression ruin their life because they think it has to or it isn't real or naive. People with depression often self sabotage in order to have reasons to bet depressed. I.E. losing your job. All of this is in reinforced by media and social culture. Especially politics.
You can be depressed and have it not ruin your life. People need to know that.
You're actually going to say people with infinitely more reasons to be depressed years and years ago let their depression dictate their lives like they do today? Strife was what was for breakfast in those times.
And yes the nostalgic feelings in this show give off the impression that Bojack's type of depression is universal, i.e. justified. This justifies the depression to the viewer, allowing them to canonize it as a direct character trait.
People just treat depression wrong. I guess your next argument will say I've never been depressed. No, I've had crippling depression. I get it. It's not real though. Depression isn't crippling you. You are.
Addendum: Do you see how you are canonizing your depression in this post? Justifying it is the first step to letting it ruin you. You're doing that by saying "life totally sucks now".
>People let depression ruin their life because they think it has to or it isn't real or naive. People with depression often self sabotage in order to have reasons to bet depressed.
So you're saying when Bojacks parents verbally abuse him then he's just "giving himself a reason to be depressed"? That doesn't make sense. He's depressed because of his circumstances.
>You can be depressed and have it not ruin your life
Most of the time people are depressed because their lives are already ruined (or at the very least they're about to be ruined. I.E. losing your job)
>You're actually going to say people with infinitely more reasons to be depressed years and years ago let their depression dictate their lives like they do today?
No, their depression didn't dictate them. What dictated them was the fact that it was a goddamn miracle to live past the age of thirty without dying in some horrible way and they were depressed as a result. Again, it's the circumstances that make you depressed.
>And yes the nostalgic feelings in this show give off the impression that Bojack's type of depression is universal, i.e. justified. This justifies the depression to the viewer, allowing them to canonize it as a direct character trait.
I genuinely don't understand what you mean by this. Would you care to elaborate?
>It's not real though
What do you mean? Like, it's not physically responsible for how you handle your life? Because that's not true considering depression is a chemical imbalance that effects the way you think and behave. It certainly makes you feel crippled.
Because life absolutely does suck. That's not "canonizing" anything, it means my depression is completely justified.
The "Diane episode" is the most steeped in political/social commentary in the series. They try to show both sides to a degree. The Hippo episode is actually pretty grounded, with the moral being that powerful people get away with shitty stuff and most people are unwilling to stop them. The abortion episode is more left-leaning but they still ridicule how Hollywood uses serious topics for profit. There's the straight white male "joke" which is pretty shit. The gun episode is the cringiest and priechiest of them all and honestly was pretty bad. I can deal with one bad episode and two "straight white male" jokes if that rest of the series makes up for it and it does.
Yeesh. Not bothering. Just keep my words in there somewhere. Hope you make it.
No, I'm genuinely interested. You seem to be implying that depression is something that society just sort of taught people. Do you not agree that people are made from their environments?
remember that time when this show had blatantly anti-capitalist and western values?
Yeah, totally moderate bro.
>I know the Diane character casually mentions she's a feminist
She's a satire of modern feminists and it's actually pretty well done.
> Hates herself
> Instant mood killer
> Injects feminist shit in to everything
> Once goes on and on about how guns are bad but once she stops a mugger she's super pro-gun
Never implied that at all. The idea that depression must effect your outward life or else it's not real or you are naive was taught, which is what I said earlier. More accurately, it manifested at some point purposefully or not. It is an idea that has become so ingrained that it is almost fact, which is what you are proving. Depression isn't essential to rationality, intelligence or sanity.
You are your choices. You are not the maelstrom whirling around in your mind. Someone told me that once and I like it. I know it feels the opposite way sometimes.
>Last question
You are trying to change the argument into something you can win. But the fact is that this is not an argument and no one has won or lost.
Unless the craft beer is a double triple IPA said hipsters won't care
t.hilldog voter
I can't easily change the words Bojack Horseman into reddit like I can Reddit and Memey but I still want you to know this show is reddit, shit and to kill yourselves.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. I'm just having a hard time understand what exactly you're arguing and how it relates to Bojack Horsemen.
But I still think depression does effect your outward life. Like I said, it's a chemical imbalance in your brain. It makes you feel weak which is why a lot of depressed people have a hard time with things like personal hygiene and day-to-day routines. It's why a character like Bojack doesn't ever change no matter how hard they try.
Shit, he called it reddit. Now I suddenly don't like this show anymore. Damn you Sup Forums!
what cartoons do you like, user?
That only works if the original was satirizing SJWs. But it was unironically made by an SJW, that's why you never get the responses you're baiting for.
Still, we'll never get new memes if no one's willing to try and fail. A for effort.
Eh, I disagree. Most liberals and feminists are outraged at abortion clinics that make mothers watch videos about the procedure because it's horrific and dehumanizing. The idea that they broadcast a "tasteful" abortion live and it empowered people to go out and get them is pure nonsense.
I've said why it relates to Bojack. My original post was about the show.
Bojack is the perfect mindset I am talking about. Countless shows do that. Honestly, Rick and Morty was one of the only shows that handled depression in a good way, that is until the latest season. Rick is that mindset that depression is rationality in a person and he used to be ridiculed by the show for it.
He has reasons to be depressed. Good ones, bad ones. Just like everyone who has ever lived. I'm not saying you have to tough through traumatic experiences and the like, deaths. I've said why that doesn't have to dictate your life, career, mental stability. Don't feel like saying it more.
Seasons 1 & 2
>character development
Seasons 3+
>propaganda
The entire show is unaware propaganda.
I've heard the exact opposite from feminist professors at my school when I had to take gen ed shit.
>there's no life being taken because it's just a clump of cells :^) so if you're a true supporter of feminism, you wouldn't care about seeing the procedure anymore than you'd care about any other medical procedure
Speaking of which, I support abortion as a necessary evil but I can't stand the evil, sociopathic language people use to defend it. This "clump of cells" shit makes me ill whenever I hear it.
But it's true though. I understand why people get upset over that notion, but depending on the stage of the fetus it is literally just a clump of cells.
It's a weird issue. Both sides had a point, a long time ago. But now it's
>I am literally proud to kill potential babies, and to flaunt it about in front of everyone.
>It's not a life until it's out and crying.
It actually sickens me that women can feel so callously to the things they must protect. Selfish.
Then the other side which is
>ban it ban it ban it ban it evil evil evil muh god
It should be allowed and you should feel sad that you ever had to get it done. Once in a while it should make you cry. The fact is once the pregnancy takes, that is a potential life and your actions dictate whether it comes out or not.
Mate, ALL human life can be generalized down into "clumps of cells" with snarky language.
Rationalizing everything into material components is the kind of shit that just leads to utilitarian tragedy.
It turns a complex argument about what is considered a human being into a snarky catchphrase.
Everything is just a clump of cells including you, faggot.
Yeah, it's fucked.
>Pro-life
>Pro-choice
When the argument has boiled down to this type of bullshit you know the shitheap can't be salvaged.
And here comes the funny discourse.
The left wants to abort everything except if its a downs baby or some other deformity.
The right wants to not abort anything but bring up downs babies and other birth deformities and it becomes a hot potato.
>run out of ideas for characters
>only come up with 3 or 4 things for bojack to do
>spread them out the entire season
>do anything to kill time since you're forced to write 12 episodes for your netfix overlords
I agree that you shouldn't necessarily feel proud of having an abortion. But you should feel sad? That's retarded. My sperm has the potential to be life but I don't get sad when I jack off five times a day.
Sometimes people don't want kids, condoms feel weird, and you might not have the pill. Accidents happen and I'm not going to have the next eighteen years of my life ruined because some conservatives don't want my wife to have an abortion. You shouldn't feel pride or shame. It's just a thing that happens.
No but I mean they literally don't have brains. They don't really count as "alive". Again, it depends on the stage of the baby but still.
>This meatbag has not transcended to the digital plane yet.
>laughingcyborgs.jpg
>Destroy this worthless lump of cells.