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It was good and fun

the fight between obiwan and anakin was too long and boring and the romance scenes between anakin and padme were cringy

TPM is the best of the prequels and nothing will change my thinking on that matter.

RotS is the most-overrated of the prequels.

You're too long and boring and cringy.

The characters were bland and the dialogue was not as natural as the original trilogy. The CGI is dated as hell. That's pretty much all anyone cares about in these movies. No one fucking cares about space taxes or "the jedi council"

no u


asshole

Yeah, I never said they were shit unlike the redditards who watched some review that stroked their egos and made them feel special for hating them.

They were imaginative and greatly expanded the universe. Every new planet was whimsical and had new races and cultures, history in every prop and character, details in every corner. The pod race was original and fun, as well as the the subaquatic trip through the planet core. The battles were pure eye candy. Episode III was kind of weak as pointed out but still had fresh material that expanded the universe.

FA? Knockoff shot like a fancy episode of doctor who that added nothing to the series canon.

Here he is. Say it. Say the two words right now.

You can't save Episode II.

No matter what you can't.

>I like the movie because they expanded the universe
In other words you like the prequels because they spawned video games, not because they are good movies.

>the fight between obiwan and anakin was too long and boring
>5 minutes long
Have you got ADHD?

1>3>2

I Watched the whole series recently and they are a massive waste of potential as was the original trilogy.

It was trash from start to finish, the only good thing to come out of it is duel of the fates

2 is the best. It's ''The Room'' of Star Wars and therefor entertaining and watcheable. Also was colorful, had best pacing and most coherent storyline and action scenes.

1 and 3 suck dick for being boring and edgy af, respectively

The movies are fucking terrible. However, I still prefer them to Disney's nu-Star Wars. They're objectively bad, but at least he tried doing something different instead of just making a sterile bland and focus-tested-to-hell-and-back soulless corporate product.

The prequels were an interesting concept with poor execution.
The Disney movies are a poor concept with good execution.
A diamond in the rough vs well-polished shit, so to speak.

seriously? you think a 5 minute fight scene is short? are you retarded?

Those lens flares look so fucking cheesy now.

This. Ep 1 had some terrible moments, but it had enough good elements that it could have merely ended up being the odd one out, if the followup movies properly course-corrected.

But when ep 2 rolls out you realize that George was wallowing in his own sinking ship, and with ep 3 its too late.

Something definitely got lost in translation. The OT was never about flashy lightsaber duels. They were just one aspect of it, and the fight scenes were more about the spiritual struggle between characters rather than physical.

But people liked the lightsaber fights, so Lucas decided to shoehorn a ridiculous number of them and make them all really long and stylistically complex, but it just becomes boring.

Both correct, but the music was superb. I've had the soundtrack in my car for the past 10 years.

AotC is unironically the best Star War.

You can say whatevs about I and III. I was a kid also when they came out, I liked them. But Attack of the Clones man... That's just plain shit.

I really like ep.1, in the first trilogy someone says that back in the day it was all more civilised and you get to actually see this in ep.1
>slick looking starships
>the force was not a matter of philosophy, it was studied scientifically with midichlorians and all
also, Darth Maul is the third most iconic villain in the series

Why are people still in denial about episode 1 it was easily as bad if not worse than Aotc

Because it wasn't.

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Exactly how I feel. TPM is beautiful and has amazing rewatch value.

AOTC was fun but has aged poorly.

ROTS is utter shit to me. But it's still better than TFA.

People who hate the prequels generally take Star Wars way too seriously.

it was ok and hilarious

>muh fun
Fuck off back to Sup Forums

ha thats a new one

I profusely enjoyed the series, but;
>Grievous used spinning AND had the high ground
>Still lost
Wish Lucas was more consistent with the rules of his universe.

>AOTC was fun

>Episode 1
>Jar Jar
>Battle Droids
>Anakin
>Nonsense plot


>Episode 2
>Laughable romance
>Geonosians
>Count "Dooku"
>Dooku hiring Jango Fett who hires Zam Wessel who uses a droid that uses poisonous centipedes to assasinate Padme
>Dexter Jettster


>Episode 3
>slapstick comedy with droids bracketing a brutal decapitation scene
>"You're breaking my heart"
>Grievous
>Younglings
>Chewbacca

These movies are all terrible. Return of the Jedi and Force Awakens and Rogue One are also terrible.

>i hate fun
Why do you live then?

No, "expanded the universe" as in "expanded the Star Wars universe", and explained in detail how. I don't play video games.

>every set looks fake even when some of them aren't
nah, fuck lucas and the prequels

You are the problem with movies. They were terrible and you are a nostalgiafag guaranteed.

Fuck these threads.

>expanded a shallow fantasy universe about wizards and magic swords with laughable attempts at science fiction

Obi-Wan literally just has to extend his arm and poke the tip of his l;ightsaber into Grievous' spinning hands holding the lightsaber, which LITERALLY do not move place as he advantes towards him in a STRAIGHT FUCKING LINE.

Fuck these movies. They are shit. Only Phantom Menace has redeeming qualities as a film. He still cared then and still had people with the balls to say no to him around.

If you were a kid when you watched these, the nostalgia element exonerates you. But these movies are shit.

Not an argument. This is Sup Forums and films. The topic is the SW Prequels. You like the toys, games, cartoons, books, wookiepedia, lore. Nothing wrong with that. But the films itself sucked and sucked hard. I'm an oldfag by Sup Forums standards (born in the 70's). The Prequels felt like the worst blue balls you can ever imagine. What a let down.

It's true goddammit.

>Only Phantom Menace has redeeming qualities as a film.
what the fuck are you talking about, are you on fucking meth?

What's it like being such a pleb? Can you velcro your own shoes shut?

If you take away your cynical glasses you can see TPM as an average/good children's fantasy movie. Attack of the Clones however.... I don't understand it at all. My ex said it was her favourite Star Wars movie, so maybe it's meant for women with all that romantic stuff? I don't fucking know. But don't shit that hard on TPM. It was a disappointment, but it had redeeming qualities for sure.

>Implying I can afford shoes

How much you enjoy a piece of media isn't a valid argument for why it is good.

That's not what an oldfag is, an oldfag is the opposite of a newfag. Has nothing to do with age and everything to do with when you started coming to Sup Forums.

>as an average/good children's fantasy movie
it has a horrifically uninteresting plot, which is made even worse by the fact that it's incomprehensible to any child

Again, what redeeming qualities? The child in the film is stupid an uninteresting, the adults in the film are bland and not badass or even that heroic. If "kids wanted to buy the toy of Darth Maul's lightsaber" is a redeeming quality of the film, I guess you might have a point.

You're going to use the word "kino" at some point if I respond seriously to you and I don't feel like losing brain cells.

It's unironically the third best Star Wars film of all seven of them. The OST alone makes it worth a rewatch if you haven't seen it in a while. It's like listening to a great album.

It's used both ways actually, newfag.

Why didn't every single droid open fire on Obi Wan here?

Also why didn't somebody from the republic pay to have Anikans mother freed? He was directly responsible for destroying the core ship that led to the Battle of Naboo being won. An entire planet is in his debt but his mom remains a slave?

In AotC how did the gunship fly in a straight path for minutes with two ships firing at it directly behind yet safely deliver Anakin and ObiWan to Count Dooku only to get blown up seconds later?

Also why does destroying some ship in space render droids completely useless on the ground? Would sure suck if they had battery backups and a basic intelligence to operate in case of a loss of communications.

I was a kid when it came out and I liked it. It's not a complicated plot, it's just stupid and kids don't care about that. Sure, I liked the OT more even then, but I still liked the movie.

People seem to appreciate TPM more than the other two because it had a fairly self-contained story and still used *some* non-CGI filmmaking, unlike 2 and 3 where literally everything is CGI. But that doesn't stop it from having serious problems in its confusion background/plot, lack of interesting main characters, lack of focus, shitty villain, etc.

II was aesthetically pleasing.

it still looks like a video game even when you make it black and white breh.

It's used that way only by tourists from other websites

>It's unironically the third best Star Wars film of all seven of them
There are only two good Star Wars films, I said that earlier in this thread.
The rest are all shit, including Phantom Menace.

>The OST alone
I don't fucking care, I don't particularly like it, and if I did, it would still be good music in a bad movie. I would just listen to the music and not watch the movie, most likely divorcing the two in my mind. Like I do with the Judgement Night soundtrack and Judgement Night.

If I like the music, I have to sit through the bland characters and frequent bad writing and acting. If I can somehow look past critical failures of a film (such as those are), I'm watching a two and a half hour prequel wherein I already know the ultimate fates of all the characters that actually matter, with a story that's, at best, unremarkable, and at worst, absolute dogshit.

Even your argument is "it's flawed, but not as bad as you say." Even if it's that true, I can just a movie that's not flawed. I can watch better Star Wars movies. I can better, shorter movies. I can watch a single episode of a tv show I like, instead.

Why even waste your time with a movie you have justifications and excuses for?

Yes, I'm sure as a 4 year old in 1999 (or however old you are you fucking kid) you totally got the whole false-flag trade route blockade to force a (misappropriated title) Chancellor (which even when used in a correct real life context is not a title a child would know) to step down so Palpatine can eventually become Chancellor (even though without the context of knowing Ian McDiarmid also played the Emperor, which 99.999999% of children would not have, the brief reference to Palpatine being a good candidate would fly right over a child's head).

I'm so sick of this contrarian bullshit.

Anakin was to be trained as a Jedi, in the old Jedi order you were required to lose all attachments, which means not having a family anymore. The Jedi felt his mother would have been a distraction.
It's why Obi Wan failed to teach Anakin properly as well, he became a friend instead of a student.

>MUH WORLD BUILDING
>MUH LIGHTSABRE FIGHTS

>There are only two good Star Wars films
There's only one good Star Wars film and it ain't fucking Empire.

Take a chill pill, fatty. You read like you're about to have an aneurysm.

Phantom Menace is legit well made because it was still in that 90's phase of combining camera angles with matte paintings, model miniatures and animatronics, but the plot is absolutely bonkers

Clones has a bit more focused story but it's too boring and non-sensical, also the primitive digital filmmaking combined with 2002 CGI effects was laughbly bad

Sith was basicaly Clones but did everything right, the story was still a nonsensical pile made of holes but it had a better idea what to do because you have to tie everything neatly in the end, also it actually made the Midichlorians sound magical than the awkward explanation in Phantom Menace

Too bad the entire Jedi code established in the prequels makes no sense and is constantly contradicted by the characters.

What killed it for me with anakin v obiwan was the way they went with it, ridicolous backflips and flying around swinging as they duel

If you look at something like the empire duel which is the complete opposite, its slow slient and the pace/tension slowly increases

To add to this:

Why didn't the VIce Roy try to poison the Jedi with a colorless/odorless gas? Also how long did they wait and how long can Jedi hold their breath? What if they waited hours longer? What if they just sucked all the air out creating a vacuum?

Oh, so you have no argument.
I understand you're a year or two (or more) too young to "get" the plinkett reviews so you have to rebel against them, but the prequels are bad regardless of redlettermedia.

Anyone who defends the prequels sounds like a 17 year old, and that can't possibly be a coincidence.

But hey, in like 10 years you'll start seeing people making the same argument about shit like Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, and then you'll get it.

.....that was the point. It was a flawed system which Palpatine used to his advantage.

Remember: the Patrician may seem lonely, but he always has Truth on his side.

There's a difference between a "flawed system" and a poorly written and poorly conceived system. It's also childishly simple, despite the films attempting to trade in concepts somewhat more complicated.

When a child can watch a prequel and then the part where Jedi can't love or get married is mentioned and then wonder "so do they fuck or not?" because it's a natural question that's never addressed at any point, it's just poorly written.

It's also said the Jedi should be unemotional, but they constantly show emotion, Jedi Masters like Yoda (who has multiple scenes where he's visible sad) and Mace Windu (who gets fucking angry) break that rule.

You're not allowed to have attachments like sending your mom a post card on her birthday or whatever when she lives a billion light years away on Tatooine, but I guess you're allowed to have best friends like Dexter Jettster or Tarrful without issue.

good job parroting plinkett user

>no one said the prequels were bad until the plinkett reivews

>but it just becomes boring.
Not at all. The fact that they're something that pretty much everyone says was good about the prequels shows how not boring they were.

You can say you were bored by them, that's your personal opinion, but a lot people don't share that opinion from what I've gathered having listened to people talk endlessly about these movies, so don't play it off like your opinion is a fact. It may come as a shocker to you, but your feelings aren't the only feelings in the world.

And Batman vs Superman made like 800 million dollars, I guess that means all the memes are true and it really is "kino"

Because all the fat people who work at mcdonalds and the internet contrarians agree that it's good

Not that user but that's not what he said, now is it? He said the other user parroted Plinkett, and it's true: essentially paraphrases from the Plinkett Phantom Menace review. It's an unoriginal observation another person famously made. It's like if I tried to rephrase a famous Benjamin Franklin quote and pass it off as my own idea.

But they're sword fights with nonsense acrobatics and poor fight choreography where it looks too pre-practiced with 12 sword swings in the span of 30 seconds.

It doesn't take a youtube video to make that seem stupid compared to the final fight in Jedi. Or even the final fight in Force Awakens.

I used to be really autistic towards the prequels as far as saying people SHOULD NOT WATCH THEM and actively crusaded against them on the internet, however there reaches a point where you grow and your perception of reality grows, and realistically speaking, the OT is separated from the Prequels by default so they don't necessarily ruin anything because if you want to adopt the mindset of people pre-1999 you can just do it, no one needs to watch the prequels if they don't want to or if they think it's bad and ruins the OT, probably because the latter isn't true unless you're one of those that think canon is something that should be taken seriously.

not correctly.

They were fun movies, particularly the phantom menace, and the clone wars had good war scene payoff, imo one of the best mass-scale ground battle scenes in cinema, coming from someone who's watched a lot of old epics. I could see an adult being disappointed in them having high expectations, as that's pretty much exactly how I felt with FA, but at least they had Lucas worldbuilding autism that's missing from FA.

I was ten when phantom menace came out, Star Wars was my favorite thing in the world at the time other than Lego and Pokemon. It blew my mind.

What? They're still three terrible movies. It doesn't matter why a person dislikes them. Whether it's "these ruin the originals!" or "these have terrible acting and writing" or "these are fucking booooring".
All are valid.

Even if you've never seen the terrible Die Hard sequels, the fact that they exist is hard to not know, and at some point while watching the first, second, or third movies, you might think "oh right I saw a trailer for the 5th one years ago and it looked like trash"

the 2 good images here are:
-boba holding jangos helmet (ignoring the fact that jangos head is still inside)
-padme and anakin kissing in the archway

>Lego and Pokemon

here's your (you)

'06 fag here. It's true, people weren't too harsh on them around here before the review caught on early in this decade, other than shitting on Jar Jar was common.

You should have went with Justin Bieber for your lazy "popular = bad" argument.

I didn't say you were wrong for being bored by the lightsaber fights, just that you shouldn't treat your personal opinion as a fact. Others weren't bored by the fights. In fact, those fights are mostly praised by people.

>Phantom Menace is legit well made because it was still in that 90's phase of combining camera angles with matte paintings, model miniatures and animatronics, but the plot is absolutely bonkers

I give TPM a pass because Lucas was juggling with new technology so I can understand why the camera work is boring and flat, but II and III have no excuse. Especially when you have incredible wide shots during all CGI fights, but then boring flat bullshit during dialogue scenes. If anything, dialogue scenes are when you need interesting angles, that way the audience isn't just watching two people talk in shot, reverse shot. (I know RLM touches on this, but they're fucking on the nose about the camera work in ROTS)

If you weren't balls deep in Lego 96-99 and especially Pokemon in 98-00, I feel sorry for you. Me and everyone around my age I know cites those years as the best years of their childhood largely because of Pokemon. Every kid on the playground had cards, every billboard was pokemon, every fast food restaurant had toys, there were entire department store aisles with nothing but pokemon. It was an amazing cultural phenomenon.

I didn't say they weren't still terrible, I said that it doesn't matter.

Die Hard is a bit of a stretch because the prequels technically ruin Star Wars fundamentally, and it's worse than a good movie getting bad sequels because people now only refer to the OT as ''4,5 and 6'', creating this subliminal obligation for normies to watch the prequels because they're ''1,2 and 3'' to get a better sense of completion, and even if you're completely oblivious to what makes a movie good and what doesn't, the feeling you get from just watching the OT and letting your mind fill the gaps is a completely different feel of watching all 6 movies in a row

I personally never found Jar Jar that bad. It always seemed like typical Hollywood humor to me
OT fans are just autistic. Like by literal medical definition

All of these are shit.

Sup Forums didn't exist in 2006, but that's not the point.
Unless you mean you were fucking born in 2006, which would make sense since you seem to be unaware of how most adults felt about the prequels.

>He didn't like pokemon as a ten year old
What a shit childhood

>OT fans are just autistic. Like by literal medical definition
but star wars is one of the biggest franchises out there
"OT fans" make up quite a large part of the population

I meant I started using Sup Forums in '06 which is what "year-fag" means, and yes it did. Was literally introduced that year.

The irony.

>It's not a complicated plot,

It's only uncomplicated if you don't think about it. If you even try to dissect what is actually happening on screen beyond face value the movie falls the fuck apart.

>Sup Forums didn't exist in 2006
Yes it did.

>Why even waste your time with a movie you have justifications and excuses for?

I'm no fan of the PT. but you have to do this with all the Star Wars movies. Granted, you have to do it way more with the PT, but the OT is not without flaws.

>nonsense acrobatics
Huh? I mean, these are people with magic powers that let them leap incredibly high and run super fast. Kind of makes sense that they've be flipping around.

>poor fight choreography where it looks too pre-practiced
When you nitpick individual parts, take them out of the context of the scene, slow them down, and loop them, maybe. In the actual movie, no, I have to disagree, the fights for the most part look great.

>It doesn't take a youtube video to make that seem stupid compared to the final fight in Jedi.
You mean with stuff like Luke kicking Vader and making him comically flips down the stairs? That's a good bit of fight choreography in your opinion? Hmm. I don't think so, user.

I'm sorry, George.

I unironically think RO, ANH, and TESB make a great trilogy.

All Star Wars movies have silly plots. They are movies for children
Prequel had great scenery and tech designs. That's why I like them