Why aren't you a Libertarian yet, Sup Forums?

Why aren't you a Libertarian yet, Sup Forums?

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I was, but now I've ascended to anarchist levels

I'm over my edgy tween phase.

I am, but gary johnson is a faggot and a shame to any knowledgeable libertarian. not voting for him

I was, then I grew up.

>Adam Smith loved techno
Could the OP possibly be any more fake and gay??

>edgy tween
Milton Friedman and all the great economists of Chicago school and more were and are libertarians, even the creator of wikipedia is a libertarian close to the views of Ayn Rand.

Being a libertarian requires a certain maturity because you won't be helped by a static nanny State.

Manchildren are socialists.

Libertarianism died when Ron Paul retired. Also I feel that it is too late to save the west with it, we need something stronger that's why I'm for Trump.

Because laissez faire capitalism is a horrible economic system that leads to monopoly and tyranny just as bad as any government could offer.

I voted for my boy Ron Paul twice, though I'm a minarchist now

Adam Smith and his invisible hand disagrees with you. Look at Venezuela, their economy is planed and it's a shithole.

People know more what it is the best for them than the State.

youtube.com/watch?v=TW5gQo43ay4 because this.

I am senpai

because I'm not an idealistic child


also, a friendly reminder that you must be at least 18 years old to browse this website

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lol

OK, Sup Forums is full of static manchildren who need a nanny State.

I am

Statist*

Thanks for the flag senpai

>yet
I was a libertarian.
Now I'm a feudalist.
I realized that capitalism's endgame is basically communism. Look at the classical liberals of the 1800s; they became modern liberals asking for handouts. A lot of ex-libertarian natsoc converts have realized that libertarianism is selfish and retarded. Rome and the British empire collapsed under their own self-interest. Providing free trade inevitably leads to conflict.

Anarchy is truly the Taoist Way

Name where a country that actually had laissez-faire capitalism ever.

Because I don't trust people.

>Stalin
>centrist

comrade, please

Why would i need to support libertarianism? Weed is already being legalized and i dont even like or smoke weed

literally every lolbertarian ive ever met only had a 3 word answer for why they supported it:
DUDE
WEED
LMAO

Because Hitler was right.

Chile after 1973 and it was praised as "the miracle of Chile"

>yet
I grew out of that a long time ago. I was never a open border cuck anyway so I was told I wasn't a real libertarian, thank christ. I regret ever voting for that silly fag johnson

>country literally voted for dude weed lmao
>country is one of the furthest from libertarianism
>libertarians are only dude weed
Lol, maybe it's because everyone in your shitstain country is potsmoking faggot

I'm not Jewish

That is basically Johnsons platform besides "dude don't trigger hispanic bruh, call them undocumented". He is essentially a slightly more economically right wing trudeau.

So libertarians need Fashy goys to root out the commies to implement the policy they want. Hmm really makes you think

If the policy works the means of implementing it doesn't matter twit.

Also
>90 white according to stats
I mean they seem to be atleast a heavy spanish mixture. Whiter than huezil that's for sure

Of course they do you fool how else are you going to get to the means? Triple H and pinochet were right. Some people need helicopter rights esspecially militant far leftists

To the ends* I meant

1973, right after a country nationalized all its industry (socialism), someone came along and overthrew the government to be a dictator.

It wasn't until the late '80s that it started to tend towards some free market policies to get foreign investment and alleviate the problems it had with command economy. Chile only had such policies for less than 15 years until they started electing socialists again.

Nice try buddy. But your example of "laissez-faire" was a complete failure since it wasn't even "laissez-faire" in the first place.

Try and make some sense.
>Of course they do you fool how else are you going to get to the means

By creating an opportunity, thus a means to an end. This isn't rocket science.

Heres an example

In your country a bill passed which will implement a policy of laissez faire capitalism.

Do you see the means to the end here?

> I have no idea what I am talking about the post
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funny that most monopolies are state-backed.

funny that you didn't know that. Have you any idea on how many issues your view is wrong and yet you still think your opinion matters?

Yes because a viable leftwing will allow that let alone for 3 decades lol, esspeically one that has no chance to lose elections without radical social reform because they have the entire labor force out protesting in the street every week.

Because I stopped believing in fairytales when I turned 7.

Yes you are absolutely right, a viable leftwing will allow that for 3 decades. As long as the hypothetical bill is passed and not repealed.

Do you understand what a means to an end means now?

Correct your grammar and stop being a fucking retard.

>fascist
>right wing
wew

Okay retard keep living in your fantasy I guess that is why your ideology is so viable outside of Hong Kongm

Libertarianism = communism.

No, listen.

Communism is an impossible utopia because it's incarnation is ALWAYS a failure. As human beings we are not geared for a communist system. We cannot abide it. So it will always be a corrupt, horrible system.

Ditto for libertarianism. A libertarian country would only ever work within a country of perfectly responsible, intelligent white men.

Both are nice dreams, but ultimately impossible and their incarnations and modern followers are shit.

You realize that since you cant understand logic you are effectively living in a delusional false reality? Next time understand what a means and an end mean.

Fucking mensch.

Strawman=Strawman

No, listen

BOTH ARE MADE OUT OF STRAW GAIZ!!

>t. ahmed

>delusional false reality
>He thinks democracy will usher in his libertarian wet dream
Oh you poor naive soul. I weep for thee

What the fuck are you even on about

Spouting words that you think make you look clever doesn't always do so

>Progressives
>Liberals
>ACLU
>Green party
>All big in personal liberty

lol no they want to control every minute detail of your life.

>He thinks democracy will usher in his libertarian wet dream

I never said that. I never even inferred that mensch

Sounds like a >delusional false reality

But I am.

the kgb propagandists thank you for being such a good puppet

>we just like need to pass a bill bruh republican democracy will usher in my fantasy

Google indian 10 year plans and enjoy the back and fourth bewteen freeing up markets and reverting back to Marxist controlled socialism

>Reagan neo-cons
>technophobic
Yes, the man who wanted to put lasers in space to shoot down satellites, missiles, ayy lmaos, and god knows what else is technophobic. That doesn't even scrape the service of the other DARPA projects which would become cellphones and the internet. Fucking christ.

If only you took your own advice.

What i'm on about: You lie to fit two political systems which you seem to know nothing about into neat narratives to fit your arguments.
Its a fucking straw man.

X is evil and bad and is chocolate coated= Straw man fallacy

Next time cite some sources because your opinions are shit.

I never did anything you listed. You are making shit up and then refuting it to appear clever. Ironically, that is infact, a straw man.

It's time to stop posting.

And no, this isn't fucking Reddit that I'm going to post an essay with sources to get your up votes.

Whoops 5 year plans*

-1, -1 here.

Am I a nigger?

Because I'm not a smug, autistic fuck.

And because I'm not idealistic. A state with negligible government presence would fail.

>What i'm on about: You lie to fit two political systems which you seem to know nothing about into neat narratives to fit your arguments.
Its a fucking straw man.

>Communism is an impossible utopia because it's incarnation is ALWAYS a failure. As human beings we are not geared for a communist system. We cannot abide it. So it will always be a corrupt, horrible system.

>Ditto for libertarianism. A libertarian country would only ever work within a country of perfectly responsible, intelligent white men.

Looks like sham arguments to me. Yes you did that one thing I said in my post.

Don't be mad I am more clever than you

because I don't like drinking semen

I didn't even comment on the systems, I said both are impossible to apply. I talked about their eventual implementation. Hi

How can you be so dense and yet think you're so clever?

Holy shit fucking murrikans, no wonder you're gonna follow a black president with a lying reptile woman

Also you do realise you are making my point for me brilliantly, don't you? The way you are talking and things you are saying are literally the same way leftists defend their shit.

Please stop putting up straw men of people

Here let me show the kiddies here how to know a strawman fallacy

>we just like need to pass a bill bruh republican democracy will usher in my fantasy

Straw man=sham argument set up to be defeated.

Well since I never said that it looks like someone is trying to make a sham image of me. So its a straw man.

>I didn't even comment on the systems.

And yet you did you fucking liar.


Please explain what you mean.

His point is that you didn't fucking make any point. Your whole post was one long nonargument.

You are not clever at all, dude. You think you are smart because you are into babies first ideology and your intellectual foundations are just "let people do what they want maaaan" like it is not extremely easy and lazy position to take, the hilarious part about it is how smart libertarians think they are when everything they believe is simply about letting themselves get rolled over, it's no wonder johnson picked Weld and is trying to shift into DNC lite lol

>(((Milton "the unrestricted immigration is good for you goy, it's all scientists and engineers; open your borders now" Fridman)))

>wikipedia

Began as 'everyone can write it', 'we're not an academic source', ended up as 'see, you're not qualfied enough to write about this t. cuckmod and your views are controversial, but we're libertarian and welcome veryone :^) also don't forget to gib shekels to the cause'.

>Ayn Rand

Hack writer and a cult leader. Scrawny autistic bitch stepped over herself and her shitty philosophy, and took medicare instead of going into a private clinic rationalizing this decision as 'I took what was stolen from me via taxes'. By the time she had a networth of $600,000 yet she went with the poor smelly people and waited there to get treaten by a subpar doctor only to prove a non-existing point essentialy giving up on the lip-service to the market she spent a life defending. That's ultimate kikery.

I fucking didn't holy fucking shit you are literally calling black white and sticking to your theory. What the actual fuck?

You are arguing the same way leftists do. Unwilling to actually argue the point, trying to appear superior within your hugbox and refusing to enter into uncomfortable arguments by sticking to easy, subjective ideas about the format of an argument rather than the argument.

>strawman
We get it dude, you can't see politics past your 9th grade civics class. Nothing to be proud of.

Libertarianism is the Australia of political ideologies

I fucking did, my argument was that libertarianism word never work because in anything but a perfect, white country of responsible men and women, the majority would fail to live in such a system and would drag down the rest.

Much as in communism, anything but a perfectly benevolent, intelligent ruling elite will always bring down everything.

>"[Are conservatives simply less intelligent than liberals, and less able to obtain PhDs and faculty positions?] The evidence does not support this view… [published studies are mixed. Part of the complexity is that…] Social conservatism correlates with lower cognitive ability test scores, but economic conservatism correlates with higher scores (Iyer, Koleva, Graham, Ditto, & Haidt, 2012; Kemmelmeier 2008). [Libertarians are the political group with the highest IQ, yet they are underrepresented in the social sciences other than economics]"

Your argument was shit I was pointing that out, furthermore if you think that you didn't comment on the systems you are the one sticking to subjective ideas about a format of an ideology. I swear its like your willfully ignorant.

>oy vey goyim, dismantle social security and consumer protections and abolish child labor laws so your daughter can buy heroin after her 13 hour shift at the textile factory for three dollars a shift, yes goyim freedom is good for you remember the free market will fix it heh heh heh he
(((Libertarianism)))

I commented on their eventual application, not their content.

I can try dumb it down again if you wish?

It was dumb enough and it's okay you already admitted to commenting.

>I commented on their eventual application, not their content.

I know you might not get this but you were still talking about a thing, the sytems.

>I didn't even comment on the systems

Yes there is correlation with autism and libertarianism. Communists also tend to have fairly high IQ's doesen't change the fact their ideology is a pipe dream. Key difference being communists are actually willing to actually do the dirty to get where they want where libertarians refuse to accept what conditions need to exist for their aspirations to come true. How many libertarian pundits shifted towards nationalist since 2012 btw?

>no goyim, install a thorough welfare state and make sure only the laziest and dumbest people can have access to it. now open the borders and let the nigglets live off your taxes, you're not a racist are you?

>sticking to tiny semantics and ignoring anything of value

You'd do well in the jidf, my friend.

Haha you would do well going back to grammar school, my friend.

By the way ignoring anything of value was easy, there was none.

I think you're missing the fact libertarians, being cleverer, realise the futility of their ideology in reality, where socialists, being of lower IQ and intelligence, continue to hold to theirs.

>Grammar arguments

This is getting better and better

You still haven't even presented anything about why I was wrong and are just saying words and things you think make you look clever.

>Grammar arguments

Hearty kek.

Its an elementary school.

You still haven't even presented anything about why I was wrong and are just saying words and things you think make you look clever.

Missed that meme arrow
>You still haven't even presented anything about why I was wrong and are just saying words and things you think make you look clever.

you're a bunch of pussies, it's no wonder nobody wants to be your friend.

>Its

It's*

Burden of proof doesn't lie with me right now, because I made an argument and you have not presented a counter-argument.

Yeah, but it is kind of a paradox. do they stop being libertarian? I mean I still hold a few libertarian notions and talking points, yet I am pretty Fashy today.

I mean are the libertarians who stick around on the lower end of the curve? Is it really just a independent centric ideology for smarter people that is used as a stepping stone?

what kind of communist graph is this

No I did you just have to READ. I even posted two of the links for you babby.

They stay libertarian, they know it's a utopia. And it's not a stepping stone, but rather the impossible to reach treasure at the end. So libertarians will always strive for it and stop at the stepping stones on the way that offer the closest possible, realistic options. Such as nationalism, even things like fascism.

I mean, you still would prefer to live in libertarianism, right? If you could actually forge your own society in a fantasy. But in the current world you would actually go for fascism.

I realized that freedom is really just a deontology. It is great to imagine a world where everyone is free to do what they want but everything still works well, but we don't live in that world.

You missed a comma.

Elementary school seems overrated.

They are kind of just total losers. I mean it felt like they had a real shot at subverting the republican party for example. Yet when push came to shove and some populism/ bit of nationalism came out of right field and they just crumbled and wallowed in defeat while the LP is getting subverted.

It's really pathetic.

It was okay.

Shame you never went to school you might have liked it.

Missed another comma, after the word "school".