What made Marvel think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

What made Marvel think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

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comics have always pushed political agendas

Yeah, I agree that it's shitty for Marvel's CEO to be so public about his financial support of Trump.

Doesn't matter which side it goes. It's still retarded to purposefully alienate half of your potential customer base just because you think that your opinion somehow matters more simply because you write for a fucking comic.

Comics have always lean left, but alongside the political zeitgeist in the western world it got kicked up a couple of notches. To the point of being unbearable in certain issues.

Marvel being the prime offender. They are trying to court a different audience because of social sites like Tumblr and twitter makes it seem young kids and young adults, who are more to the left than Stalin, is a massive untapped market.

So they hire writers who push those ideals, and sometimes very hard.

That's my take on it. Anyone have a different view on the matter?

If the comics are good a political agenda doesn't matter. I read and enjoy tons of stuff that expresses views contrary to my own but which I still enjoy. Same with all media.

Current Marvel is just shit in general. Being politically charged is incidental, not the cause.

It's all about public image. Marlel wants to be more known among the lowest common denominator so they opt for the easiest option: clickbait

This the only difference now is it's politics you're aware of/are fresh enough that you actually have an opinion on them. Nobody cares about commentary of events in the 70s, that shit was the 70s. Nobody cares about beating up Nazis because that's just history to us.
Also twitter doesn't help.

>comics have always lean left

What is golden age?
What is silver age?

A little something called The first amendment.

That's some pretty high-grade cringe on that page and I can tell it must be not particularly high for that piece.

> If the comics are good a political agenda doesn't matter.

I don't even think even the best comic in the world could be saved if the agenda was like 'kill all women' per example.

it's the same as comedy, people go to a show and expect jokes, instead they get this

youtube.com/watch?v=Js3UcZz6VZI

they weren't booing her because she's black or even that they were trump supporters, they booed her because they didnt pay money to be harangued, same goes with comics. if I want current events I watch the fucking news.

>What is the golden age?
A period of left leaning in comic books

>What is the silver age?
A period of "family values" veneer enforced by the CCA.

This. Fucking Conservatards and Sup Forumsacks need to fuck off

Is this some sort of joke?

Was Power Girl shit until the godly Connor/Palmioti/Grey days?

OP didn't say anything about government censorship.

Marvel Comics have always been left leaning. Fuck off conservatards.

fucking this

remember when Cap hung up the flag and became Nomad because Nixon was part of hydra

>Le Sup Forums boogeyman whoooo

You seem pretty angry for no reason.

> voting is a bad thing

ohhh user

If you don't know that comics have always been left-leaning than you're a casual.

Aye, but we're not seeing such extremes here. Just standard naive lefty stuff.

Is this the only video of this? If not why use the one with the cuckold filming?

It's not their politics, they just like to tick people off for the notoriety.

That's a bad market business btw.

>alienate half of your potential customer base
that would imply that the tumblr crowd buy comics

If that is the fantastic 4 human torch then her speech is already bullshit, and cyclops there means that Jean and Storm are also around

You people are the biggest fucking crybabies possible. Every single time someone says something that violates your safespace, you get so triggered that you complain about it for days on end. Every possible person has to agree with your agenda, and if anyone dares to say that LGBT people, Muslims, Hispanics and blacks deserve the same rights and dignity as everyone else, then you lose your shit.

Tell me, you precious fucking snowflake, would you prefer if Marvel pushed YOUR politics? If they jammed in your regressive, anti-intellectual, pro-authoritarian lunacy into comics, would you feel less threatened? Don't worry, sunshine, I'm sure someone will give you a hug at some time and tell you that your feelings are more important than education, democracy and enfranchisement.

Says the idiot who's generalising 80 years of a medium into [preferred pronoun]'s ideology

Because I'm sick of those groups of people coming here and shitposting threads like this. It'd be more bearable if they at least did some research but they're all just Sup Forums MCUfags

Yeah, pretty much. Idiots like OP don't see how this all a cynical rebranding as being the progressive alternative to DC.

Didn't say it had, just pointing that yes a political agenda can ruin an otherwise good comic. Especially if it's against something you believe.

>What is golden age?
The period in which Batman went after actual businessmen and Superman beat the shit outta wifebeaters?

Captain America Comics #1

You should open a cinema with the amount of projecting you're doing.

What made Marvel think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

>Implying the Right reads comics

Stop this meme. It's been said time and time again in this very thread. Comics have always been for the Left. The fucking X-Men is one big metaphor for Civil Rights. Kill yourself.

Please stop roleplaying as a tumblerite.

name a right-leaning series, arc, or plot and we can probably name twice as many that were left-leaning

hardmode: big 2 only

And wonder woman called Japs "little monkeys"

Nice copypasta.

Also see They are literally laughing at it.

Shut up you fucking crybabbies, they ruined Mrs.Marvel after applying political behaviour on them like every other marvel hero.

She became just another comic, that the difference is just the character because of that

He's objectively right. You faggots whine more than SJWs.

>What is the Golden Age?

You mean the point in time when comics rallied around the idea that we should beat the shit out of fascists, when Superman was a proponent of unions and labor, and Captain America literally punched Hitler in the face?

>What is the silver age?

You mean when censorship and a false family values concept was forced onto comics that made everyone toe a political line that no one was allowed to cross?

Literally all of the silver age superman, just for starters. Throw in Superman's girlfriend Lois lane and Superman's pal jimmy Olsen

> Shut up you fucking crybabbies

Huh why did you quote me user? I simply pointed that an agenda can ruin a media.

Superman was a socialist strongman.
Wonder Woman is literally feminist propaganda.
Captain America is a new deal democrat.
X-men is about anti-racism.
Superhero Comics are lefty as fuck.

Except Carol Danvers has always been a symbol for feminism.

If you're talking about Kamala then it's pretty obvious you've never picked up her book.

>implying that it's copypasta

Also, why don't you actually try to address the shit that I said instead of continue to stay in your hugbox and refuse to grow the fuck up and realize that not everyone has to agree with you?

>Kraut with a tommy gun
What?

Didn't know how to draw a MP 40?

I'm pretty sure it is, it wasnt a tv show just a stage show

> He's

Stop roleplaying user. You should have used less libtard jargon if you wanted to be taken serious.

What made DC think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

How is SA Superman right-leaning?

Superheroes are literal fascists. Every single major 20th century critique has observed this

>If they jammed in your regressive, anti-intellectual, pro-authoritarian lunacy into comics

but I think the OP is anti-left wing

They did end up making fun of that, though.

>Superheroes are literal fascists.
Alan Moore pls go.

>an unmarried professional woman headlining her own title in 1958
>right-wing
funny joke

Because there is nothing to address, it's just the standard 'enlightened left of tolerance education and democracy everything nice' vs 'right of anti intellectuality, authoritarism and regress'. Basically people only say that when they are trolling or they are retarded.

Well, if you were willing to actually read silver age superman, you would know. If you want me to prove this then the image limit would exceed

What made Wildstorm think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

You only need about 10% of potential customers to be successful. Trying to please everybody is a surefire way of watering your product down and not having strong support.

Also, why does everyone keep saying "half"?

>don't work for the government 99% of the time
>fascist
How stupid are you son?

>asking a legitimate question is shitposting
>not wanting to be preached to when you buy something is shitposting

k

I readed what you quote, and do you really think the Right-wing or Sup Forumsacks don't have passed thorught any harrasment or any critic over their behaviour?

Sup Forums for example is filled with clickbaiting Left Threads, always asking why X is wrong.
You should check their page even though you don't agree with them before writing shit.

probably didn't have references for it. it's not like image search was a thing.

Alan Moore has openly criticized superhero critique

Filthy casual.

Once again proving that whenever anyone challenges your safe space, you don't have any means or desire to actually address and meet on a level playing field.

>Superheroes are literal fascists.
People who say that literally do not know what fascism is.

>lefty calls anything that triggers him fascist
stop the presses!

nah. you're making the claim, you supply the evidence. otherwise, you're bullshitting.

my dad works for nintendo, I'd know.

Should I also go to Stormfront, so what they're talking about? Maybe I should go to a Klan rally and discuss their ideas over a domestic beer?

>doesn't understand fascism

How stupid are you?

You mean the critique of Watchmen and the horrendous critique of DKR that ignores the fact that Batman sets up a literal vigilante cult to fight crime outside the law? Because no other comics are ever even critiqued.

Trying to tap into a new market. Problem is they hired writers whose political views are not only childish but their attitude isn't much better which alienated a large amount of customers, hence the plummeting sales.

>I can easily prove my argument.
>but I won't.

That whole series was pretty much the 70s edition of the stuff we whine about today. ALL THE POLITICS

>to see a page on the internet you must agreed with all their topics

Are you baiting me or are you really this close minded?

Yes, so you can understand them faggo

>Dude, tampons.

Why should I bother arguing with people who don't even read comics?

Also, don't you have a bull to prep?

What playing field, what safe space? Throwing accusations like the standard 'you're a racist sexist homophobic blah blah' are basically non arguments. It's nothing but a whine. Stop talking like an idiot and then maybe people will take you serious.

I still can't believe some of the shit Marvel has shat out in recent years.

Yes user, opening the Stormfront site will suddenly turn you into a nazi.

I've read comics for a lot of different classes at university (usually English, once it was a Fine Arts elective). I've had to write papers on them and there are a lot more scholarly articles on comics than you might think.

Not being willing to address or dialogue with odious belief systems doesn't make me closeminded. It means that I value my time. Like, right now. I'm going to go to work and do something productive with my time. Maybe you should try it sometime, stop crying about how the horrible horrible SJWs are ruining your life by thinking that everyone in the world is basically the same as everyone else and deserves to be treated as such.

Looks like someone can't handle the bantz.

Will he be a recurring villain?

Politics and progressive messages are not the issue, it's the hacky talentless, unsubtle creators that have no idea how to write that are the issue.

So business as usual I guess, 90% of superhero comics are badly written trash. Always have been.

It's not a legit question since comics have always been left leaning. Don't want to be "preached" to? Grow the fuck up and accept other viewpoints or don't go into a left leaning medium.

After the 2012 election there was a lot of talk about the new demographics of America and the idea that millennials were more diverse and more liberal than their parents.

So a lot of companies decided it was simply good business to be more openly liberal, because advertisers are more interested in young people than old people.

Plus big companies like to suck up to whoever's in power.

Now it turns out the political power of the new, diverse America wasn't as great as people thought it was, they'll try to backtrack a bit. I think they'd be doing that even if the election had turned out differently. Open politics was basically a fad like pouches.

He got the Luger right, although that is a much older gun and was sold in the US commercially.

Comics have been political since the 40s.

Why do Sup Forums hate feminists, are you guys against equality or something?

> it was just bantz

gg

>president elect is assaulted by the spawn of Sam Wilson and Squirrel Girl

She spends almost every issue trying to trick superman into marrying her and drawing stupid conclusions over simple misunderstandings.

you mean recurring hero?

Does anyone have that twitter screencap of the comic shop owner, after going on about how awful his Marvel sales are, says that Marvel seems to think Tumblr and comic conventions are their audience?