>1978 >Superman comes out >raises the bar for blockbuster films >remembered to this day as a genre classic
>1989 >Batman comes out >raises the bar for blockbuster films >remembered to this day as a genre classic
>2002 >Spider-Man comes out >raises the bar for blockbuster films >remembered to this day as a genre classic
>modern day >superhero movie comes out >"That was pretty good, I guess. When's the next one?" >hype cycle begins anew for the other 5 or 6 superhero movies that will come out the same year >all but forgotten within two years
Cinematic universe franchises fucking ruined superhero movies. Granted, there have always been shitty rush-jobs, but now people go see these rush-jobs simply because they're part of a franchise they mindlessly follow.
People remember Superman, almost 40 years later. People remember Batman and Batman Returns. People remember Spider-Man 1 and 2, and The Dark Knight, because they focused on making the absolute best film they could, not just going "OK, well it's time to make another Thor movie. Just get whoever's available to make it, we need it by March."
Ten years from now, nobody is going to remember Ant-Man or Doctor Strange or even well-received movies like Wonder Woman, because they feel like assembly line productions, just pumped out four times a year because they know you'll fork over your cash every time simply because it says "MCU" or "DCEU" on the poster.
Gavin Hill
>skipped dark knight/all nolan who basically changed the trajectory of blockbuster movies
Carson Evans
Yeah despite the memery because it's popular, The Dark Knight will be the last time anybody with any auteur sense will touch a Super Hero property.
People act like Deadpool did anything new, but it's the same shitty story as every other bad super hero movie but in a new package.
Michael Cooper
I thought Logan was pretty good tbqhwyfam.
Brandon Edwards
>forgot x-men but remembered batman
Connor Harris
Deadpool was pretty different except for maybe the last fight which they made fun of.
Nathaniel Perez
you thought wrong
Cooper Gomez
The original Superman is the only superhero movie that truly raised the bar.
The Dark Knight didnt even want to be a true Batman movie.
Luke Adams
X-men raised the bar that they could actually be good like OG Superman and have important messages
Spider-man raised the bar in the money department
Dark knight did both
Brandon Williams
>remembered to this day as a genre classic There was a Superman movie in 1978?
Cooper Cook
it's definitely one of the better movies we've had in years
Adrian Howard
no
Benjamin Rivera
Better than anything in the DCEU and the only Marvel flicks than can even hope to compete are Winter Soldier, Iron Man, and GotG.
Easton Foster
How much time have you wasted watching capeshit?
Noah Morgan
not an argument
Joshua Rogers
>it's definitely one of the better movies we've had in years >compares it to capeshit That says a lot about its quality tbqh mate
Sebastian Green
capekino can still be compared to capeshit since its a "superhero" movie Anyone else feel like most of these ""superhero"" movies aren't actually superhero movies?
Joshua Gray
Marvel / Disney movies are already forgotten the week after you've watched them. DC films are discussed, remembered and pondered for years to come. Snyder is a man ahead of our time and we are lucky to exist in the same timeline that he is.
Nolan Diaz
Uh...
Batman Begins, TDK, and Logan are some of the best superhero movies in modern history.
OP is clearly a connoisseur of penis and penis accessories.
Josiah Gonzalez
>capekino
Dominic James
>DC films are memed and shitposted for years to come.
If BvS wasn't pandered by normies and critics alike it would already been forgotten and you faggots wouldn't meme about it.
> Snyder is a man ahead of our time and we are lucky to exist in the same timeline that he is.
Exhibit A.
Cooper Phillips
Only because it subverted what a Superhero movie usually is. It didn't do anything new outside of superhero films. Its merit is mostly because its the first superhero film to do it, but its themes and style are common in other genres.
Deadpool was a parody movie more than a superhero movie; parody movies aren't really new, and it wasn't even straight up parody.
Isaiah Flores
MoS, BvS and WW have more content and meaningful story than all of Marvel movies combined. The only film that I respect on MCEU is Ironman 1
Jordan Ward
Within its own genre it is an exceptionally strong movie and, simply judged as a film, one of the few that are genuinely good.
Joseph Howard
>superman the motion picture was barely a good film. Everybody remembers superior Superman "kneel before Zod" sequel more >batman, only because wb promoted the fuck out of it, barely a good movie didn't live up to the hype, batman returns was slightly worse, but batman inspired the cool, urban monochromatic look copied by the crow and the matrix i'll give it that >spider-man, nobody cared after the hype died, people remember the superior spider-man 2 more, arguably raimi's best work the dark knight nor iron man not mentioned, kys
Benjamin Watson
Only thing you're right about is Spider-Man 2 being better than its predecessor. Spider-Man is still a good movie though.