Which one is the bigger irredeemable little shit?

Which one is the bigger irredeemable little shit?

You can choose one.

Pro-tip: You can't.

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Greg did seem to redeem a part of himself near in the ending of the "Hard Luck" volume.

Greg is an asshole in the funny, embarrassingly relatable way. Mabel is an asshole and we're supposed to ignore it.

One is actually redeemable in some way though, Mabel is not.

Neither. Lisa beats both hands-down.

Mabel's oblivious to what she's doing, Greg knows full well what he's doing and only thinks of himself.

I remember reading a few Diary of a Wimpy Kid books in middle school. This shit's nearly a decade-old now, isn't it?

>greg
>redeemable
>Get can be redeemed for convincing Rowley to put his Christmas presents in a time capsule so Greg can steal them

How?

Post wfw you realize Greg is the western counterpart of Punpun Onodera and is doomed to fall down a similar path.

What?

No, Greg is a little shit, because he's constantly trying to find his niche, he's at that point where his whole life is having people think your cool, girls, and video games. Often, he's selfish, and when he's greedy shit turns sour and does not work out, and he realizes this.

Mabel is selfish BECAUSE everything usually works out for her, she's gotten greedy in her ways and can wish for nothing more than self satisfaction because she's a little cunt who refuses to be an actual person.

It shouldn't have made me this mad

It happened in The Last Straw.

She is Lisa
Thats how

never read diary of a wimpykid. What are some of gregs "worst feats".

I think what makes me hate mabel a lot is the fact that her character is a self insert who despite constantly acting selfish she's always "correct" in universe and dipper is constantly forced to take Ls.

If the shows characters (aside from cypher I believe) acknowledge the fact that mabel was always asking people (dipper especially) to sacrifice shit for her extremely superficial and selfish wants while never doing shit in return for anyone, she would have been way more tolerable of a character.

Modecai from regular show annoys me in the same sort of way to a lesser degree. It feels like he can act like a dickwad sometimes and get away with it because he's a self insert like mabel. But unlike her modecai is a mostly redeemable person who can occasionally get self insert syndrome while mabel basically controls with universe.

That's... tragic, actually.

Greg > Rowley

Rowley actually deserves better.

I'm a hardcore Wimpy Kid fan, I gotchu bro
- Plays a "game" with Rowley that ends up breaking his arm. The game was just Rowley rolling down a hill, and Greg trying to hit him with a football.
- Constantly attempts to manipulate Rowley into doing physical work for him while he sits back
- Bullies kindergarteners he's supposed to walk, then blames Rowley when caught. This results in Rowley having to apologize for him
- Wishes he could bully Manny (can't due to parents), then states that he's lucky he can just do it to Rowley
- Entire point of the journals is because he assumes he will become famous. Imagines his family leeching off of him

There's always Batman, user. He's the best at everything.

But at least he knows when to stop.

Sure, it shows him acting like a little shit and stop when he goes too far repeatedly, but at least it shows that Greg actually learns from that

Diary of a Wimpy Kid makes it clear that Greg is an asshole. Gravity Falls tries to convince you Mabel isn't.

Making characters jerks isn't insufferable, lack of self-awareness about the fact is.

They are both terrible but at least Greg had repercussions for his actions, Mabel just got sad sometimes.

Holy shit we should ask a drawfag to redraw the discovering the body of you know who panel with adult Greg in Punpun's place.

so basically the worst thing about him is that he bullies his best friend
okay so thats pretty awful but at least he didnt cause the end of the world.

as far as i remember diary of a wimpy kid never tried to make greg that sympathetic (thats why the movies failed) while mabel is portrayed as an angel

Mabel doesn't learn from her mistakes and we're supposed to support it. Greg at least knows he isn't perfect and tries to learn. Also, shouldn't he at least be in high school by now? The first book came out when I was 9

Mabel, even though Greg is so bad of a 'friend' I absolutely understand why he has no others than Rowley. Even when I was a kid I knew Greg was a little shit.

>diary of a wimpy kid is 10 years old next year
what the fuck

How fucking young are all of you? I was a junior in high school when those books came out.

But I can, Mabel

21, fampai. I consider preteens and even some early teens 'kids', so yeah.

Same, I ended up reading it because it was free for a few years before on one of those educational games websites that was the only thing you could do at school.

I liked that version of Greg better. He just became more and more selfish as time went on.

Ehhh

Both are shitty in the way kids are shitty, Mabel just happened to be in way more high stakes situations than Greg. We can rightfully assume that if Bill offered Greg the newest game console for his body/soul/a portal he'd gladly do it without giving it a second thought.

Agreed! I happened to pick up one of the books and found that it was more mean spirited than I remembered. I did remember Rowley breaking his arm, but that's the kind of stupid shit kids do all the time.

This is what Japanese Greg looks like

Mabel literally made no mistakes

>Hey could you give me that doodad which is on possession of your uncle in exchange for your personal gain
It is straight up stealing.

So will team fortress 2, and I've only recently have been playing it.

Riiiiight

>Mabel is an asshole

Hahaha no.

Both of them would be fine if they both had consequences from their actions of being selfish, the thing is that Greg does but still keeps fucking up, Mabel doesn't even get fucking punished for being a cunt because Alex is a feminist faggot

Shit.

I disagree. Greg would probably resist the temptation and say no, just so he can brag about how he saved the world to his classmates and girls, and to feel good about himself.

Since you're a fan, what you think of the upcoming reboot and the new actors playing the two leads?

Mabel is fucking adorable, she's allowed to be as much of a little shit as she damn well wants.

Very surreal. It looks like a foreign knock off film because of how similar the actors look.

As someone who's only seen the Diary of a Wimpy Kid movies, Fuck Greg. I hope he dies alone.

I can't really think of as good of examples of mabel's selfishness and "always rightness" outside of the finale, the roadtrip (which I don't even think was her fault) and her constant boyfriend hunting. What else did she do?

This.

Awaiting for a trailer before I judge. There was a behind the scenes video up, but something tells me the other kids (Fregley, Patty, Chirag) aren't going to be in this one.

Rowley looks on point though

In the Ugly Truth, Greg really felt like he was changing and growing but then the rest of the books just turned into a horrible person

>In the Ugly Truth, Greg really felt like he was changing and growing
In what way? It's been years since I've read that book

I can compare it to those south park episodes were Stan sees everything becoming shit.

That does seem familiar. I imagine continuity is cast aside in order to pump out more books, sadly

Kindof like that south park episode

But there is self-awareness. The entire point of Sock Opera was to call her out on her bullshit. Problem is, they did nothing to improve her character from there on, which makes her even more frustrating to watch.

>Diary of a Wimpy Kid has fans that use this website
This is new.

I'm an older creepy guy who likes them.

I forgot about it entirely and this thread just renewed my interest in the series.

I'm sure most Wimpy fans who use this site watched the movies first

Why?

Waifufags get out. Of this earth.

Nah, she's pretty damn ugly.

YOU.

The movies were absolute shit though.
Why wold it interest anyone?

underrated post

Greg is much worse in the books believe it or not.

They actually made him more likeable in the films
as likeable as a guy who bullies kindergartners he was supposed to walk and blames his friend on it can get anyway...

>It's been almost an entire decade since the first book came out
I read it back in middle school, now I'm 20

Are those the new actors or the old ones?

...

The conclusion to that "arc" pissed me off so badly.
>I decided the best option was to let Rowley take the fall for me
Fucking asshole

I don't know what Punpun Onodera is, can you explain what happens to him?

What did Mabel do?

I never watched GF after the hiatus in 2013

Only the second movie was shit.

Hoo boy
Its way too much.
Heres some of the highlights.
>gets raped by his aunt and cucks his uncle when he's 14 years old
>falls in love young with a girl who he didn't see for several years.
>his mother is a selfish alcoholic who had him too young and wishes she could still be the crazy party girl she used to be.
>the girl he falls in love with is his childhood friend girl who is an actually realistic take on the Yandere and abused by her fanatical new age cultist mother who pretends she's disabled so her daughter can't leave her and films pornography when she isn't home.
Don't want to give too much after that but this is the darkest bleakest most depressing manga I have ever read and what makes it sadder is how much of it is actually possible.

Greg at least is entertaining and changes his routine

Mabel is just:
>Woo! Look at me everyone!
>Woo! Sparkles!
>Woo! My Pig!
>Woo! Dipper is a nerd!

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New actors, since the original actors are old as fuck to play the roles.

I read up to Cabin Fever then sorta lost interest.
Book 2 & 4 were my faves. Movies were a'ight.

Jesus Christ no SPOILERS I'm getting the first volume how on a scale from Grave of the fireflies to citizen Kane what am I in for?

Why in gods name would they reboot it?

Honestly given the circumstances they're in I'd say gregs a bigger cunt he's delebritly fucks people over and has deliberately proved himself into being a ignorant asshole

Maybe they'll finish the series
Or make it good this time

It's technically a soft reboot, continuing the story with a brand new cast, something that couldn't be helped.

>tow we'll never get a Ugly Truth movie (shoot Dog Days and Ugly Truth back to back) which could've been a perfect for the original actors and "closer" since the fifth book was all about growing up

Its pretty damn bad.
I mean its a manga about a little Japanese boy growing up into soul crushing adulthood and losing his innocence. Everyone in the mamga is a sad broken person. Its as cynical as it gets. Also there's a surreal subplot about a cult of crazy people that think they're saving the universe with music.
I haven't seen either of those films

>11 books

Holy shit. I finished the 5th one when I was in 8th grade. All this time I thought it was the last one.

Nothing much, but then again, I didn't get to season 2 yet.

get to it. chop chop

Greg is almost Lincoln Loud's Shadow.

...

Cabin Fever and Third Wheel were the most boring entries in my opinion, but "Hard Luck; The Long Haul; Old School" did seem to make up for them.

Fuck does that make sense

Dipper had to revert his changes on a date with Wendy so she could have her pig. Somehow, Dipper making the choice to NOT effectively sell his sister's new pet for an alright date with somebody who's not actually dating you makes Mabel an asshole.

"Come on Loud, you know the only reason we hang out with our so called friend is so that we can have a lackey around!"
"NO! You're not me!"

Hes also taken a few bullets for Rowley over the years. The Cheese touch being the most notable, and he tries to keep Rowley from becoming more of a socially inept weirdo

Who would be Mabel's shadow?

He still had to give up an opportunity that he worked so hard for just so Mabel can have a pet that she by all means should not have kept past the summer. It's just something that's way worse with the context of knowing how the show ends. All those times Dipper had to give up something while Mabel had to sacrifice nothing really adds up and makes Mabel look like the one that was wrong the entire time.

This; it's the REPETITION of Dipper cleaning up after Mabel at his expense that makes it so irritating. It happens so often it undercuts Dipper's "error and correction" character-growth gig because he's doing the same thing over and over and it's also means Mabel is either too stupid to notice how often her brother carries her or too selfish to care.

I guess Hirsch shouldn't have hogged so much of the work on the series himself; maybe it wouldn't have been digging ruts within the first 15 episodes.

I quit on the series after the Third Wheel I think.

Can someone explain how this fucking kid is still writing journals in eighth grade?

Doesn't he have homework? Shouldn't the school year be over?

How condensed is the storytelling now? I remember a segment where Greg magically remembers shit from when he was in the womb, is he still pulling shit like this?