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Well obviously. Again, STD is nothing more than another plot to drain money from black and brown people.

Consider this...

1. Nearly all of the (massive) ad campaign has been about how the captain is a black woman.

2. The premiere of this show is scheduled to appear right after Oprah's first episode of 60 minutes.

3. First episode is free, then you have to cough up a credit card to see the rest.

4. People of color are told they have a DUTY to support this show; that this show is just the next front in the battle of blah blah blah.

It's always funny to see how this works. And once you get to know which companies own which stable of networks, you'd be surprised how often the whole cross-promotion scheme works.

They're both pretty shit.

Are they that threatened by The Orville they have to mention it in the fucking headline?

How? I thought it was only on CBS' shitty streaming service that nobody uses?

Or are they counting all the views that STD got from overseas on proper streaming services like Netflix, while The Orville is still only on Fox and not widely syndicated?

>exclusively available over a shitty streaming-service
>"ratings"

How do you even measure something like that compared to a show airing on Network Television?

>thing the media fell over itself to publicise gets higher ratings than thing media fell over itself to condemn and ridicule

Every time they mention it they just legitimise it as a viable Trek alternative.

Nice illuminatti art

>2017
>ratings

kek


sage and hide

>STD is nothing more than another plot to drain money from black and brown people.

autistic brown and black people at that.
#onfleet
i really want to believe there are people out there that realize how bad the pandering is.

The premiere was on cable.
This.

Both shows are trash though.

>premiere
>PREMIERE

Yeah, tell me how the "ratings" are when the rest of the show is only on a proprietary streaming service. Any Star Trek fan worth their salt is just going to torrent/ddl the rest of the episodes. They're not going to suddenly flock to pay for some shitty service with only one show they'll actually watch.

They aren't getting subscriptions, they aren't getting ad revenue and certainly wont be getting "ratings" after that initial episode.

VICTORY

Who knows, maybe this is Seth MacFarlane playing 4-d chess.

Assuming that STD fails (which it will), they will be looking to make up some of their losses.

So Seth buys the rights and rebrands Orville. He already has the sets and the crew and the cast.

Star Trek Orville goes on to become the highest grossing star trek in the history of television.

And before you say no, consider this.. back in 1967, there was a comedy movie using the james bond characters. it was called casino royale, and it was far less serious than the 2006 film by the same name.

>Any Star Trek fan worth their salt is just going to torrent/ddl the rest of the episodes

It's on Netflix for non-Americans

t. FOX shill

No, true trek fans won't steal it, they simply won't watch

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>Star trek gets more viewers then a brand new show by a washed up writer/director/actor with a significantly larger budget.
Whatever helps you sleep at night

Not shilling, just observing.

Given MacFarlane's well known love for classic TV, sci-fi, and Trek, I think it would work.

If he were told... we're giving you the trek franchise but it has to be a serious show; I think it would wind up being one of the better versions.

How could it not be? Take your average over-the-top trek fan and put them in that spot, and it would be 100% with canon, and an over-the-top homage to the entire franchise.

>than thing media fell over itself to condemn and ridicule
Why? I only saw a few minutes of the orville but apparently the captain is a cuck. Seems like the kind of thing (((they'd))) like.

Don't be that guy. Let people enjoy what they enjoy. Don't make it tribal.

Nah, that's not right at all mate

What age do you think you live in? There is a headline for everything.

>washed up writer/director/actor
Pretty sure Seth has a higher net worth that the stars of STD.

He was literally arguing about his wife cheating on him and getting told he should have expected it for not taking care of her needs.

>over-the-top homage
That sounds like fanfic cancer.
Seth MacFarlane is a hack, and can't even handle his own show. Why would they trust him with an IP as valuable as Trek?
The merchandising for Star Trek alone is more profitable than everything Seth ever made combined.

I'll kill you.

The black woman isn't even the captain why is she on every single fucking ad??

The Orville had the audacity to say "hey, maybe there are two sides to every conflict, maybe sometimes concepts aren't clear-cut with bad guys and good guys" and the liberals didn't like it one bit.

Washed up compared to the media giant CBS propping up STD I should say, I misspoke

But I personally don't like him therefore anything negative I say about him is true.

>she is literally doing the 'my ancestor' pose
Who made this kino poster?

Just use a VPN and watch it on Netflix.

Did you link to the won't post?

Did you stop watching for that reason?

>Headline: At Least Shit Doesn't Smell Like Vomit

But that was part of the humor.

The federation is called "the union"

One bridge officer has no experience, but got her job as an affirmative action appointment?

His humor has always been double-edged

yeah

I'm not going to fix it though, I'm just going to go with the flow, it's just threads

Season premiere of one of the oldest franchises around had better ratings for its first episode than a new series which is a comical spoof of it.

Fucking shocker. The ratings will plummet soon, always do.

But I was correct about him being a cuck?

>One bridge officer has no experience, but got her job as an affirmative action appointment?
>His humor has always been double-edged
Ah, I see.

>The federation is called "the union"
Don't understand why this would trigger libs, though.

The fact that the ratings are even fucking comparable should be a fucking sign to the people behind STD that they aren't doing it right. There is no way on Earth they will get that budget back

>that was part of the humor
Seth wouldn't know humor if it fucked his wife in front of him.

It barely did. It's Star Trek and barely beat a Seth McFarlane Trek parody. Who didn't expect it to beat the Orville?

God damn these Trek apologists are pathetic.

There aren't even any ratings for Trek because it's on CBS's streaming service.

>The ratings will plummet soon
>soon
>not NOW
It's pretty clear you didn't know it was a paid streaming exclusive. Do you typically make assertions about topics you know nothing about?

Both are bad.

both earning an estimated total of 5 whole dollars. Cable tv is saved bros!

Captain is a cis white man, you dumb shit. Looks like he will be a badass who the writers want you to dislike but instead will become a fan favorite.

I'll take "What is family guy" for $200 Alex

Correct.

>Nearly all of the (massive) ad campaign has been about how the captain is a black woman.
I didn't see anything to do with that in the trailer. Can you show me an example?

>sage and hide

oh, hey /pol
still a virgin, eh

Breaking News: Established Franchise Gets More Premiere Viewers Than Brand New IP

Because the whole premise of this series is more like Breaking Bad (unless they do a 180 after their premiere), centred around basically one character, unlike the previous series which was always about whole crews.

I'd be willing to pay if it didn't amount to me paying like $70 for the entire season.

No u.

>responding to obvious bait

Advertising also includes reviewers and reporters paid to write articles.

>Trump's dark speech
I'm not sure that comparing Trump to a "darkie" is going to help the racial divide, what is the media thinking!

Except the just advertising budget for std was more than the entire pilot episode of Orville

So assertions that you can't prove? Not the strongest piece of evidence.

...

From the article:

>9.6 million viewers and a 1.9 rating among adults 18-49 tuned into the first episode [...] While The Orville’s premiere netted a 2.7 in the key demo, it pulled in 8.6 million total viewers, so more people were tuning in for the genuine article over MacFarlane’s parody/homage.

Key demo (18-49):

Orville 2.7
STD 1.9

CBS shills BTFO

Don't guys fall into the same trap by insulting a woman's sexual value?

Guys aren't retarded enough to think calling someone a slut is an argument.

But how many watched Discovery on Netflix?

Have you really never seen someone say "t. roastie" on here?

holy shit it was that close? for the first new star trek in over a decade? and it lost in the demo?

I can't believe they're painting this as good news. That's disastrous any way to slice it.

Another pathetic desperation you see is all the articles talking about "record subscriptions" to a service that has absolutely no value whatsoever. "this big exclusive comes out so now people are actually subscribing to this worthless service! anti-STDs BTFO!"

Good lord
>Only around 10% more viewers total
>When one of them is a MacFarlane side project from a genre that's been mostly dead for roughly a decade except for a few big names
>And the other one is Star Fucking Trek, the biggest name there is

No matter how much you damage control, its still paid vs. free, nobody counts the pirated and online streaming viewers either. People needing to get off their ass and access CBS all access and still getting comparable ratings is only good for CBS because they will end up making a shit ton more money on their All Access from Boomers.

Whether they'll make money is not in question.
Of course they will make money, Hollywood doesn't take chances and hasn't in a very long time.
That doesn't mean that such minimal difference in the attention from tv watchers isn't very telling.

I don't usually do other people's homework, but I will this time because I think you're being intentionally obtuse.

Here is a sample of headlines about the show prior to the airing of the first episode.

It's a classic example of leftist attacking and virtue signaling.

It's not "watch the show because it's good", it's "watch the show because you have to fight the racists who say it's bad".

So, eventually, people will argue that you have a DUTY to watch the show (and claim you like it) because to do anything else is wrong, anti-social, racist, or evil.

This show is a perfect intersection of Sup Forums and Sup Forums.

Trek is only number 2 after Wars. Which abcdisney is working on. In terms of normie brand awareness.

The Orville advertising budget is microscopic compared to the media blitz cbs pulled for STD. Thry even had a flying discovery or some crap over nyc.

I think they'll green light Orville for another season they don't want another firefly on their hands.

in response to a post trying to deflect by changing to subject to sexual value? of course i have

>I think you're being intentionally obtuse.
Conflating an advertising campaign with allegations of paying off reviewers and journalists is being obtuse. Thi

Your picture contains a number of independent articles, most of which are discussing how Sonequa Martin dealt with criticism. Which means it's not reflecting the show itself, or the intentions of the people making it.

Beyond that, it's baffling to me that you claim they're virtue-signaling, when one actress responds to hate based on her race. I mean, what is she really meant to do? Refrain from commenting at all, even when asked about the massive carry on over her being black?

>Star Wars and Star Trek are in the same genre
Yeah and I guess Star Wars is also in the same genre as His Master's Voice by Stanislav Lem, because Star Trek sure as hell is, so clearly Star Wars must be as well.
If you don't want to google it, imagine Carl Sagan's Contact except older, better and without any of the religious terrorism or excitement of any kind.

It's also on Netflix.

Budget Orville
>low shekals

Budget Discovery
>high shekals

STD SHILLS DESPERATE AS FUCK

Non-Americans don't matter. This is a general rule of life in regards to anything that isn't box-office revenue from a Transformers or Garfield movie.

See, i'm not sure if you're just having fun jerking my chain, or if you don't understand how media works in America, so I will try one final time...

1. The number of actual nazi's in america is very low. The number of radical racists who would hate the show simply because of minority casting is very low.

2. Trek fans don't give a shit about the minority or gender casting of this show. We've had Janeway, Sisco, LaForge, Uhura, Worf, and countless other minority and female actors in lead or priority positions in the various shows. To trek fans, the casting of this series isn't news, or anything different from what we've been watching for decades.

3. What trek fans care about it the quality of the show, how closely the show follows established canon, and just a little escapism from the every-day politicization of every issue. (see: NFL)

4. That some crazy racist has a problem with the casting of this show isn't a story; because if you look for it you will ALWAYS find some crazy racist who has a problem with any show.

5. The problem is that they are attempting to build the show not on the quality of the production, but on the typical anti-trump fight the man shit that they use in every other situation these days.

6. I used trump and the "dark" speech as an example because it shows how the media colludes to write and control the narrative. It cannot be a coincidence that dozens of reporters writing a story 1 hour after trump's speech would describe it as "dark", especially when it wasn't dark.

7. My conclusion... the means in which they are using so-called "news" stories to advertise this show, the way they are trying to tie liking the show to social justice; the timing of the first episode to coincide with Oprah's premiere on 60 minutes; and the preemptive attempt to blame any failure of this show on the forces of racism is a complete and total setup, and something we've seen so many times in recent years.

>The Cuckville gets btfo
>BLACKED threads starts all over the board
It really makes you think.

>Why?

McFarlene is legally siphoning attention away from the brand that they own with a parody-brand, and he's doing it with a product that is better-liked than the material they produced.
That is MORE than enough to infuriate the shallow, vindictive, money-grubbing suits behind STD's creation.

Wow...you really live in your own deluded little world.

haven't watched the orville but discovery is kind of cringy
>look i made a giant perfect sign while we were walking
That being said i always thought the niggress was ugly in Walking Dead but damn she's beautiful in Star Trek

You're changing the scope of this discussion, first off. Whether there are actual radical racists or not is irrelevant to what people are saying. If it's perceived that a number of people are criticizing her for being black, then that will become news. If you were in the threads devoted to STD before it was even released, you would have seen the jokes that poured out. It would only be worse on Twitter, where the actress and reporters are going to interact with those people as well.

>and the preemptive attempt to blame any failure of this show on the forces of racism
Where did this happen, again? Because, all I can see is a black actress responding to actual racism, which she has every right to do.

>TV execs don't regularly do shitty, petty things

So you know literally nothing about the media industry, huh?

>Because, all I can see is a black actress responding to actual racism
>actual racism

Racism made-up by click-bait authors isn't "actual racism".

>If it's perceived that a number of people are criticizing her for being black, then that will become news.

And the point is that that perception is delusional.

Calling people niggers over Twitter is racist, though.

>implying clickbait articles can't point out actual racism

Calling people niggers over twitter is unimportant and fixated on because wannabe revolutionaries can't find any racism that matters.

I wonder why the (((ratings))) are so high

It doesn't really change the fact that it's racist, now does it?

>The Orville, a new show that not many people know about
>Star Trek Discovery, Star Trek is a household name

We will have to wait until both seasons are over to truly determine which one is more popular. But just because something is more popular doesn't mean that it automatically makes it a better show.

It's not literally "made up" in the sense that it exists but it's "made up" in the sense that it's not a real issue significant to the life of anyone but retards who care too much about social media. You're just being pedantic.

>somebody shitposted on the Internet, holy shit the Second Holocaust is real

Do Liberals just not fucking understand how the Internet works?

You can find literally ANY opinion, including ones that offend you, if you dig hard enough.
That still makes it faggy, low-tier, agenda-driven journalism.

But is it news?

The media creates it's own atmosphere. So, if they start talking about something enough times, it becomes a story.

For example, see image. By controlling the camera angle, they attempted to make a small protest look like a large protest.

Why? Because a large protest supported their narrative and a small protest didn't.

It's the same thing here. You could look on the internet right now and find some crazy racist who is opposed to anything you want. That is not news.

It doesn't become news until the media puts him on TV every day, and builds a story around him.

In other words.... is it a protest, or a man waiting for the light to change?

Why?