Alternative Future Thread

How would Europe and your county look like if World War I never happened?

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It wouldn't at all

WW1 was a punishment for Partitions of Poland-Lithuania

Germany destroyed. Austro-Hungary destroyed. Russia destroyed

Coincidence?

You all earned it. I think it was good for those countries to die

Sadly those countries didn't learn anything. Germans went for national socialism and Russia for communism. Well they are now dying once again

>Austria-Hungary

how about austia hungary survives the world wars what happens

how do poles have such a huge ego? they put serbs to shame

And yet here you are, still squatting in the streets and shitting like a dog. You just had to drag everyone else down with you, didn't you? Vindictive little shits. There's a reason all of the countries around you have tried systematically exterminating you over the years.

well thats the reason why your countries are so poor because your people are unable to build up a empire economically, military and politically

you would be better off if you stayed

>the cold war never happened
dont embarrass yourself

You don't even have a coastline anymore Austria, shut the fuck up.

You ruined both your own empire and in the process, the German Empire by treating your non-Austrian citizens like shit and starting WWI. Then you went and produced an autistic sperglord that destroyed Germany for good by turning it and all of Western Europe into a cuckshed.

Germany was like Darth Maul or Darth Vader. But Austria was like Emperor Palpatine, always pulling the strings behind the curtain.

Wheres Poland on this map?

Nevermind, Poland never existed.

Neither did Israel.

/ImaginaryCountryGeneral/

So you accuse us of being unable to build a proper empire, yet it looks like your country was reduced to a little rat? And how Austro-Hungary was a better empire than Poland-Lithuania? You are on the peripheries of the harshest european conflicts, you can sit comfy on your ass and do nothing

Is it our fault that Russians and Germans were deluded enough to think that they can keep polish lands in the long run? Is it our fault that those countries are full of mentally ill, violent, sadistic murderers?

Russians and Germans are enemies of personalistic civilizations that Poland represents. They are all about mindless use of force, to achieve nothing. What has Russia achieved apart from being raped by bolshevism to the point it is now? What has Germany achieved with their militarism and expansionism? They were forced to hand over the whole of Prussia to Poland. Sounds good for having at least any sentimental memory of an empire

Russians were given an offer to join the union with Poland. They chose Western Europe instead, with all the bad ideas. Good that bolsheviks raped them, they earned it

BTFO'd

the eternal hasburg

POLAN STRONK

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About the same. Maybe better in some ways. The whole thing was a mistake.

what has this to do with the cold war?

the communistic block basically consisted of the udssr the other states were basically vasalls

I always love Euro threads because a bunch of detritus from countries that don't matter try to argue about who's king turd of shit mountain.

YOU'RE THE FUCKS WHO STARTED YOU TWATS

Better of definetly if that nigger serb didnt shoot europe would be in a better place.Serbs ruin everything.

if the italians werent traitors and the germans didnt force the us into the war with sinking their ships everything might have turned out differently

You literally border Serbia you fucking retard. You're just as shit.

he would have been austrian at that time

>german speaking regions of poland that existed for decades, centuries, disappeared completely because poles are just so peace loving

We have a statue of Gavrilo Princip here in Belgrade too. Funny, isn't it? WW1 killed something like 40% of our male population and while we did manage to create Yugoslavia (which was the whole point) it later collapsed and now everyone here hates each other.

By those standards, I would have also been Austrian. My family comes from a part of Vojvodina (Northern Serbia) that was Austro-Hungarian territory at the time. My grandfather's brother killed himself because he was drafted to fight against Serbia and didn't want to do it.

>War breaks out but is contained to the east
>Germany and Austria kick Russia's ass
>Peace treaty of Brest-Litowsk is put in place
>mfw Greater Austro-German Empire

stop typing for your own sake
>the holdings of the """""""""austrian empire"""""""" become austrian
>judeans, english, gauls didnt exist because there were only romans there

well in ww1 there were barely battles on austian soil

i fixed your map

The only reason portugal is not higher in the list is 'cause we only have 10.46 million citizens. Sill +95% white

>t.

I imagine I know what Serbian opinions are on the Austrian Empire, but what are the general Croat consensus on them? I ask because I've met quite a few Hungarians, Czechs, and Slovaks who generally have good opinions of it.

You border mexico your just as shit.

Positive.And the duke would of reformed and gave slavic ppl more freedom keeping the empire together.

You know those weebs who love Japan more then anything? The ones who cosplay, try to learn Japanese and believe Japan is the best country ever? Croats are a lot like that. Only instead of Japan, it's Germany. They love Germans. A lot. They love Germany almost as much as they hate us and that's saying something.

Glorious.

Germany would rule the world.

>a country literally the size of our smaller states

have some perspective

Thank you germany my soul is burning.

60%

I'll never understand why the dagos wanted Istria and Dalmatia more than Savoy, Nice, Corsica, & Malta

Lichtenstein basically the size of a city and they got plenty of perspectives

Why were German lands not in Germany even though they voted for reunification again? And why the fuck was British government getting involved in minor territorial disputes rekated to German reunigication that could easily have been resolved peacefully when the USSR was taking over half of Europe and nothing was being done?

For example, from 1918-45, Danzig was 97% German and 2% Polish. In 1933, the NSDAP won an outright majority in the city elections, while the Polish party won 2%. What was a German city doing in Poland? And why is it called Gdansk now? And where have all the Germans whose ancestors had been living there since the ice age gone? After all, this is Prussia we're talking about. The homeland of Bismarck. Germany only occupied the German speaking land in Poland in 1939 and everyone lost their minds.

Meanwhile, the USSR invaded Finland and the Baltics as well as occupied half of Poland in 1939. And nothing was said or done. Quite the contrary, they became our allies and we helped them conquer half of Europe. What's that all about?

All of you guys forgot to make Alsace-Lorraine part of France again. WW1 or not we would have taken it back.

they were basically pussies and when they saw its looking bad for us they backstabbed us for fucking istria and south tyrol

no they just have one

Habsburg / AH was some of our finest hours

brits were afraid from the germans and saw them probally as a bigger thread than russia

maybe because they were allies in ww1

Not much reasons to like Serbs. Rude and obnoxious. Poles of the South.

Well Europe presumably would have roughly the same borders.
As far as my country is concerned, she wouldn't have any of her territories gained in WW2, because without a WW1, there would have been no WW2.

what?
expanding and getting the new dominating superpower?

(((financial))) superpower, duh, boy are you stupid

I actually agree. And I think my countryman was actually shedding a tear for the great empire. We Croats have always craved Germanic/Austrian cock.

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RIP sweet prince.

That hurts Russia-senpai. And after everything we've done to make you like us too... What did Serbs do to you?

I cry every night.

>not knowing that

they are basically switzerland

Considering that without The Great War we wouldn't have WW2

>Austria-Hungary and Russia continue to curbstomp the Ottomans and retake Constantinople, maybe get as far as Trebizond
>civilise the Barbary Coast, courtesy of Spain, France, Italy and Britain
>Ireland may remain subjects for far longer but will still engage in rebellion
>Dutchmen get to keep their bicycles
>Russian Revolution may still happen, conflict between bolchevik and menchevik gets international support
>you can't stop happenings

Official list of good things to come out of Eastern Europe: *one million tumbleweeds roll by*

Austria would have eventually dissolved do to too much separatist preassure. But Germany would after about a century of genocide make sure Poland would no longer have a slithr of hope of existing.

The Tzar would have still fucked up bad enough for a civil war but this time it would be Monarchy vs Democracy and Germany would quell the rebellion but Russia would be devastated after the conflict and might federalise or give up teritories that do not give sufficient bonuses for the hassle.

US would remain just a regional power and UK would have eventually delt with the Irish problem. Also would have probably expanded into China.

It might have expanded to the point where Germany accepts a loss of Colonialism as there is no hope to fight UK.

Also the Ottomans would get fucked by a Balkan coalition if Bulgaria got conquered or became less Anal.

maybe not the Russian Revolution

the germans sent Lenin with plenty of gold to russia to kill the zar and end the war with russia

Der slawische Völkerzoo wurde seit jeher nur durch das nordische Element am Laufen gehalten. Der Niedergang der nordischen Rasse dort führt auch zu dem Verfall dieser Länder.
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It's like you guys are forgetting the cause behind all this.

>Wat is tesla

i guess we'd still be in some kind of empire together with austria, czech, slovakia, croatia probably slovenia and maybe some more. since in this alternative reality there is no WW2 and hitler, there wouldn't be this much political correctness and immigration, German language and culture would probably dominate Europe instead of anglo-american. plus no "muh trianon" and no communism, so it would be pretty good i think... thanks serbs

>thanks serbs
This.

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This

This is depressingly accurate.
Goddamnit.

i thought jews are agianst communism because they cant use thier financial powers there

Germans severed ties with the (((international banks))) and they used their attack dogs to get it back

That's actually pretty cool to know. I've had an interest and affinity towards the Austrian Empire ever since I found out my family were REALLY minor nobility/gentry somewhere outside Vienna (and by minor I mean it was a small estate with a Freiherr title probably earned after serving the required 'x' amount of years in Austrian Cavalry).

I think what I liked about them so much was that even when they were getting repeatedly defeated in the Napoleonic Wars, they had an iron will to endure and eventually adapt- being on-par with the French Army at the dawn of Napoleon's reign.

Hmm yeah a guy who did literally all his important work in the US. Definitely sounds like Eastern European innovation.

I'm fine with your map.

>Germany still includes Prussia.
>Large German-speaking area of Germany, Austrian Empire, and Switzerland that is nearly all of Central Europe.
>The UK still possesses the rebellious Ireland.

Good map, thanks.

Russia got into space before you.

oh boy, someone's getting nuked tonight

>jews are agianst communism

Who do you think are going to be the party members? :^)

>good things to come out of Eastern Europe
Tesla came out of Eastern Europe
As did Slavoljub Penkala and numerous other inventors. Also, Soviets won the space race.

That's just a dumb myth. Also linking the fucking bild..

Uhhh

Not when we got their nukes.

Admit it. You changed your flag to Bosnia for that post... Wasn't Telsa Serbian?

Jews supported the revolution because it meant a end of the progroms in Russia.

Jakob Schiff supported If I remember exactly

kek

>Wasn't Telsa Serbian?
Ethnically Serbian, born and raised in Croatia, lived in USA.
You tell me.

How about we have another go at it, lads?

>Ethnically Serbian
>born and raised in Croatia
You're forgetting "educated in Austria" :^)

Can you leave us out. We are kinda enjoying this hellhole. Even just for the entertainment value.

it would work better this time because we have federalism and everyone dislikes serbia

I don't know how such an alliance could happen nowadays.
The closest achievable thing would be an extended V4, tho it's questionable whether we're ever getting in.

Didn't know that part.
I guess that fucks it all up even more.

My great and great great grandfather fought for ur beautiful country in WW1. Also my king did. Fuck the serbs.

100% Serbian.

I didn't have the KebabRemover.png, so you get Taylor instead.

Hey, vote Hofer.

its just 60% of your country

you could join us and send the gypsies to the 40%

Nah m8. Sharing a nation with 1 million hungarians is bad enough. Don't want more of them.

Plus no ammount of Austrian inbreed politics can compete with Moldavian alcoholism and Bucharest's lack of self awareness.

Well, that can be because we were after ww1 one of most industrialized countries in world (top 10 I think), but serbs get nothing.

HunCro here

Bretty gud

>USA
The USA would have achieved 'great power' status in equal station with the UK and Imperial Germany and would have eventually become the preeminent global power economically. Piecemeal imperialism would have continued unabated adding a few minor possessions particularly in the Caribbean and Central America.

Without the Great War in Europe and the economic boom it created in the US as demand for supplies and resources spiked, Woodrow Wilson would have narrowly lost (instead of won) his reelection fight in 1916, though most of his economic reforms would have endured.

Without the Great War, the social movements of the late 19th and early 20th centuries would have continued. Anarchism, Progressivism, Socialism, and Social Darwinism would have continued unabated and either prospered or floundered.

It is likely that a general left of center movement encompassing the Progressivsm of Wilson, Roosevelt, and La Follette along with the Socialism of Debbs and the populism of Bryan would rise as a credible alternative on par with the general conservatism of the GOP. Whether that would find it's home in the Democratic party, particularly given the southern influence at that time, is far from certain.

What say you, Sup Forums?

>Didn't know that part.
He studied in the Technical University of Graz.

And things are a-changin in Europe again, so who knows where things are going. We might very well try to get it our way, but first we need to reckognize that that's what we want.

You flooded the EU with gypsies by giving them passports?
What is a dumb myth?

>look at map
>there is no Poland

i like it